Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
http://coldfusionnow.org/store/stickers/ Harry On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: And realistic too: The heat is on? I remember what you have asked yesterday. But it will be on, and will be great and good. Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: Mottos should be short and sweet: The heat is on. Dennis Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:14:36 +0200 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19 From: peter.gl...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Thank you! It is still plenty of time to take an informed decision. The Outsiders will surely help. Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter came up with: ”Solving the useful heat source problem.” That seems a little presumptuous. Maybe it should be: Trying to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to get some sort of heat, useful or not. Wishing we would make some sort of progress in trying to solve even the useless heat problem. - Jed -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
Peter came up with: ”Solving the useful heat source problem.” That seems a little presumptuous. Maybe it should be: Trying to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to get some sort of heat, useful or not. Wishing we would make some sort of progress in trying to solve even the useless heat problem. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
Thank you! It is still plenty of time to take an informed decision. The Outsiders will surely help. Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter came up with: ”Solving the useful heat source problem.” That seems a little presumptuous. Maybe it should be: Trying to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to get some sort of heat, useful or not. Wishing we would make some sort of progress in trying to solve even the useless heat problem. - Jed -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
Mottos should be short and sweet: The heat is on. Dennis Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:14:36 +0200 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19 From: peter.gl...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Thank you!It is still plenty of time to take an informed decision. The Outsiders will surely help.Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter came up with: ”Solving the useful heat source problem.” That seems a little presumptuous. Maybe it should be: Trying to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to get some sort of heat, useful or not. Wishing we would make some sort of progress in trying to solve even the useless heat problem. - Jed -- Dr. Peter GluckCluj, Romaniahttp://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
And realistic too: The heat is on? I remember what you have asked yesterday. But it will be on, and will be great and good. Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: Mottos should be short and sweet: The heat is on. Dennis -- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:14:36 +0200 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19 From: peter.gl...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Thank you! It is still plenty of time to take an informed decision. The Outsiders will surely help. Peter On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: Peter came up with: ”Solving the useful heat source problem.” That seems a little presumptuous. Maybe it should be: Trying to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to solve the useful heat source problem. Hoping to get some sort of heat, useful or not. Wishing we would make some sort of progress in trying to solve even the useless heat problem. - Jed -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
I don't think your quite there yet... but your getting warmer. (ducks and runs)
RE: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
*VonnegutICE-9* Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:18:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19 From: p...@rasdoc.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com I don't think your quite there yet... but your getting warmer. (ducks and runs)
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
I like Ruby's sticker, Can You Feel the Heat?
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
Paul Breed p...@rasdoc.com wrote: I don't think your quite there yet... but your getting warmer. I love it! (But it should be you're) - Jed
Re: [Vo]:A Motto for ICCF-19
Our mastery of nature is almost always constrained by the toolkit that we have assembled to look at the details of what we need to understand. Major scientific breakthroughs have always followed the development and common use of new and more powerful tools that can make the area of interest more comprehensible. Calorimetry is just too blunt a tool to fully understand the processes involved in LENR. More and better tolls are needed and the expertise in their use are required penetrating the mysteries that underlie LENR. Drawing on the great lessons from the history of science, The germ theory is now a fundamental tenet of medicine that states that microorganisms, which are too small to be seen without the aid of a microscope, can invade the body and cause certain diseases. Until the acceptance of the germ theory, many people believed that disease was punishment for a person's evil behavior. This belief followed the supposed truths that society and religion taught. When entire populations fell ill, the disease was often blamed on swamp vapors or foul odors from sewage. Even many educated individuals, such as the prominent seventeenth century English physician William Harvey, believed that epidemics were caused by miasmas, poisonous vapors created by planetary movements affecting the Earth, or by disturbances within the Earth itself. The development of the germ theory was made possible by the allied development and widespread use of certain laboratory tools and techniques that permitted the study of bacteria during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. This lesson from history also tells us how a theory is useless until it is widely accepted by the scientific community overall. Just because one person knows the answer, this knowledge is ineffective and does not amount to anything of substance until that knowledge is spread and widely accepted. As an illustrative example of this principle, many people believe that American biologist James Watson and English physicist Francis Crick discovered DNA in the 1950s. In reality, this is not the case. Rather, DNA was first identified in the late 1860s by Swiss chemist Friedrich Miescher. Then, in the decades following Miescher's discovery, other scientists--notably, Phoebus Levene and Erwin Chargaff--carried out a series of research efforts that revealed additional details about the DNA molecule, including its primary chemical components and the ways in which they joined with one another. Without the scientific foundation provided by these pioneers, Watson and Crick may never have reached their groundbreaking conclusion of 1953: that the DNA molecule exists in the form of a three-dimensional double helix. The determination of the details of this structure took the use of just the right cutting edge X-ray crystallography tools by experts well versed in the field to open this door of discovery. Among them were Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins, who utilized X-ray diffraction to understand the physical structure of the DNA molecule. What these wide ranging meetings to discuss LENR should do is not only to discuss experiments and limited results, but to search for new and improved experimental methods and tools that can be applied to the problem. Looking for excess heat or helium just won’t be effective in getting to the principles that underlie LENR. A survey of all the currently available scientific tools in the toolset of technology and the inspiration and the willingness among the attendees at the conference to find and use them could possibly add immeasurably to the future understanding and success of LENR. Cheers: Axil On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, I have just published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/03/a-motto-for-iccf-19.html My motivation is that I love and respect the Scientific Method but I know we will have the possibility to use it only AFTER creating a commercially successful application of LENR. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
