RE: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-31 Thread Mike Carrell
The test in question, lighting an array of LEDs is trivial and *proves* nothing 
significant because the power required is trivial. It is a partial answer to 
critics who want to see continuous power output and not *apparently* fantastic 
claims based on pulse phenomena. The peak power in an ordinary flashtube is 
also significant for a millisecond or so. Same for the LED ‘flash’ in some cell 
phone cameras. The reaction BLP is now dealing with is inherently explosive; 
the trick is build a device that will deliver 1000 explosion per second and 
capture that energy efficiently with high performance solar cells, for which 
there is commercial precedent. IC engines deal with a series of explosions. 
Mills’ claims for pulse energy are remarkable but are consistent with wit 
published science. BLP’s task is now engineering a device for which there is no 
direct precedent but game-changing prospects.

 

Mike Carrell 

 

From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 2:09 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

 

I agree.. Conclusion?
Lenart

On May 29, 2014 9:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

The amount of time and mental enegy required to absorb Mills technology is very 
substantial. Is it real or is it a fantasy? Who can be a judge? The perspective 
student of this course of study must be convinced that this substantial effort 
is not made in vain.

BLP is like a company who has not made a profit in 20 years. An investor must 
see some upturn in the prospects of BLP before he makes an investment in that 
endeavor. 

When Mills puts an energy device in service so that his technology replaces the 
oil and gas industry, then many people will decide to make the investment in 
Mills technology.

The same is true for all the developers of unconventional energy generation. 
The first few of these developers who successfully field a technology verified 
by a vigorous market for their product will generate all the interest required 
to drive forward the new paradigm.

 

Success is the key to everything.

 

 

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

I have posted to Vo and CNMS a series of notes under the general heading of 
‘understanding BLP’ which have been generally ignored. The post below 
illustrates a basic problem, that these commentators have simply not done their 
homework well enough to evaluate what is really going on and the difficulties 
that Mills has faced for decades in finding a commercially viable device or 
system to utilize his discoveries. Without the homework, the claims and 
demonstrations will be misunderstood. I have followed Mills for decades and am 
willing to enter a dialogue with anyone who really wants to understand. There 
is a “society for Classical Physics”, moderated by Dr. John Farrell, an early 
mentor and associate of Mills. Mills actively participates in the discussion 
with terse comments and references to his published work. I am gratified by  
the quality of the questions asked, and Mills’ courteous replies. Basically, he 
is proceeding in incremental steps toward the device now portrayed in the 
website. Much depends on exactly what happens in the detonation, which will be 
found by careful experiment which is seen the video clips. There will be 
technical papers posted at appropriate intervals, as Mills has done for decades.

Mike Carrell

 

From: Foks0904 . [mailto:foks0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

 

I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been critical 
of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had such issues getting 
into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They have had issues with 
patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far railroading goes in 
explaining it. I've speculated perhaps they are contracting out their devices 
with non-consumer partners or something, but then why bother w/ public demos 
and videos like this? Shrug.

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my lack of 
appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an expert at 
microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis of your 
extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage, that they 
are competent people and really have something and are not trying to play a 
confidence game.

 

Eric

 

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be feature=youtu.be

 

R. Mills is answering questions

 

 



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Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
I agree.. Conclusion?
Lenart
On May 29, 2014 9:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 The amount of time and mental enegy required to absorb Mills technology is
 very substantial. Is it real or is it a fantasy? Who can be a judge? The
 perspective student of this course of study must be convinced that this
 substantial effort is not made in vain.

 BLP is like a company who has not made a profit in 20 years. An investor
 must see some upturn in the prospects of BLP before he makes an investment
 in that endeavor.

 When Mills puts an energy device in service so that his technology
 replaces the oil and gas industry, then many people will decide to make the
 investment in Mills technology.
 The same is true for all the developers of unconventional energy
 generation. The first few of these developers who successfully field a
 technology verified by a vigorous market for their product will generate
 all the interest required to drive forward the new paradigm.

 Success is the key to everything.




 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

 I have posted to Vo and CNMS a series of notes under the general heading
 of ‘understanding BLP’ which have been generally ignored. The post below
 illustrates a basic problem, that these commentators have simply not done
 their homework well enough to evaluate what is really going on and the
 difficulties that Mills has faced for decades in finding a commercially
 viable device or system to utilize his discoveries. Without the homework,
 the claims and demonstrations will be misunderstood. I have followed Mills
 for decades and am willing to enter a dialogue with anyone who really wants
 to understand. There is a “society for Classical Physics”, moderated by Dr.
 John Farrell, an early mentor and associate of Mills. Mills actively
 participates in the discussion with terse comments and references to his
 published work. I am gratified by  the quality of the questions asked, and
 Mills’ courteous replies. Basically, he is proceeding in incremental steps
 toward the device now portrayed in the website. Much depends on exactly
 what happens in the detonation, which will be found by careful experiment
 which is seen the video clips. There will be technical papers posted at
 appropriate intervals, as Mills has done for decades.

 Mike Carrell



 *From:* Foks0904 . [mailto:foks0...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System



 I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been
 critical of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had
 such issues getting into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They
 have had issues with patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far
 railroading goes in explaining it. I've speculated perhaps they are
 contracting out their devices with non-consumer partners or something, but
 then why bother w/ public demos and videos like this? Shrug.



 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my
 lack of appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an
 expert at microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis
 of your extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage,
 that they are competent people and really have something and are not trying
 to play a confidence game.



 Eric





 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be



 R. Mills is answering questions






 
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RE: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-29 Thread Mike Carrell
I have posted to Vo and CNMS a series of notes under the general heading of 
‘understanding BLP’ which have been generally ignored. The post below 
illustrates a basic problem, that these commentators have simply not done their 
homework well enough to evaluate what is really going on and the difficulties 
that Mills has faced for decades in finding a commercially viable device or 
system to utilize his discoveries. Without the homework, the claims and 
demonstrations will be misunderstood. I have followed Mills for decades and am 
willing to enter a dialogue with anyone who really wants to understand. There 
is a “society for Classical Physics”, moderated by Dr. John Farrell, an early 
mentor and associate of Mills. Mills actively participates in the discussion 
with terse comments and references to his published work. I am gratified by  
the quality of the questions asked, and Mills’ courteous replies. Basically, he 
is proceeding in incremental steps toward the device now portrayed in the 
website. Much depends on exactly what happens in the detonation, which will be 
found by careful experiment which is seen the video clips. There will be 
technical papers posted at appropriate intervals, as Mills has done for decades.

Mike Carrell

 

From: Foks0904 . [mailto:foks0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

 

I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been critical 
of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had such issues getting 
into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They have had issues with 
patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far railroading goes in 
explaining it. I've speculated perhaps they are contracting out their devices 
with non-consumer partners or something, but then why bother w/ public demos 
and videos like this? Shrug.

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my lack of 
appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an expert at 
microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis of your 
extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage, that they 
are competent people and really have something and are not trying to play a 
confidence game.

 

Eric

 

 

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be feature=youtu.be

 

R. Mills is answering questions

 

 



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Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
The amount of time and mental enegy required to absorb Mills technology is
very substantial. Is it real or is it a fantasy? Who can be a judge? The
perspective student of this course of study must be convinced that this
substantial effort is not made in vain.

BLP is like a company who has not made a profit in 20 years. An investor
must see some upturn in the prospects of BLP before he makes an investment
in that endeavor.

When Mills puts an energy device in service so that his technology replaces
the oil and gas industry, then many people will decide to make the
investment in Mills technology.
The same is true for all the developers of unconventional energy
generation. The first few of these developers who successfully field a
technology verified by a vigorous market for their product will generate
all the interest required to drive forward the new paradigm.

Success is the key to everything.




On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

 I have posted to Vo and CNMS a series of notes under the general heading
 of ‘understanding BLP’ which have been generally ignored. The post below
 illustrates a basic problem, that these commentators have simply not done
 their homework well enough to evaluate what is really going on and the
 difficulties that Mills has faced for decades in finding a commercially
 viable device or system to utilize his discoveries. Without the homework,
 the claims and demonstrations will be misunderstood. I have followed Mills
 for decades and am willing to enter a dialogue with anyone who really wants
 to understand. There is a “society for Classical Physics”, moderated by Dr.
 John Farrell, an early mentor and associate of Mills. Mills actively
 participates in the discussion with terse comments and references to his
 published work. I am gratified by  the quality of the questions asked, and
 Mills’ courteous replies. Basically, he is proceeding in incremental steps
 toward the device now portrayed in the website. Much depends on exactly
 what happens in the detonation, which will be found by careful experiment
 which is seen the video clips. There will be technical papers posted at
 appropriate intervals, as Mills has done for decades.

 Mike Carrell



 *From:* Foks0904 . [mailto:foks0...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System



 I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been
 critical of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had
 such issues getting into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They
 have had issues with patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far
 railroading goes in explaining it. I've speculated perhaps they are
 contracting out their devices with non-consumer partners or something, but
 then why bother w/ public demos and videos like this? Shrug.



 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my
 lack of appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an
 expert at microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis
 of your extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage,
 that they are competent people and really have something and are not trying
 to play a confidence game.



 Eric





 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be



 R. Mills is answering questions






 
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[Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be

R. Mills is answering questions


Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Eric Walker
What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my lack
of appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an
expert at microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis
of your extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage,
that they are competent people and really have something and are not trying
to play a confidence game.

Eric



On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be

 R. Mills is answering questions



Re: [Vo]:BlackLight's Second Test of Automated Ignition System

2014-05-28 Thread Foks0904 .
I've never thought Mills is running a confidence game. But I've been
critical of BLP because it's perplexing as hell why they have had
such issues getting into the public marketplace for over twenty years. They
have had issues with patent office in past, etc. but I don't know how far
railroading goes in explaining it. I've speculated perhaps they are
contracting out their devices with non-consumer partners or something, but
then why bother w/ public demos and videos like this? Shrug.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I don't get is how this footage would impress anyone.  Perhaps my
 lack of appreciation is due to my lack of knowledge.  No doubt if you're an
 expert at microcalorimetry and allied fields, you would know, on the basis
 of your extensive experience, merely from seeing and hearing this footage,
 that they are competent people and really have something and are not trying
 to play a confidence game.

 Eric



 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vh88aVr6i8feature=youtu.be

 R. Mills is answering questions