Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Fire-ing Squad

2016-08-07 Thread Che
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> In this time of massive FUD production, it is near impossible to discover
> how the world really works. What is your explanation of current affairs?
>

I'm an experienced marxist. Most of it is _dead simple_ for me to
understand, actually. The problem OTOH, is that the middle-class types who
dominate the media (including the Internet. Including here) are NOT
generally interested in inconvenient facts. Up to now, anyway...

However, 'dead simple' doesn't mean that people don't have somewhat of a
steep learning curve ahead of them on that... just like the science, here.
I'm not going to be explaining or convincing you of anything, in 1 or 2 or
3 or a dozen emails, most likely.








> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Che  wrote:
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>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
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>>> Open source tech cannot garner the capital and R power to pose a
>>> product and capability replacement threat to the anti Rossi FUD interests
>>> that Rossi can. Be assured, the LENR wars have just begun.
>>>
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>> That's the Neoliberal, 'entrepreneurial' cant -- but I don't believe it,
>> and no one else should, either. It's just propaganda to keep asserting
>> that, simply because it is the path of least resistance under the present
>> circumstances, etc., yadda.
>>
>> People here should be primarily interested in the *SCIENCE*, no? -- and
>> secondarily in the politics and financing (which of course *affect* the
>> ability to DO the science... as we all should understand quite well by now).
>>
>>
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>>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Che  wrote:
>>>

 I understand why this list is utterly obsessed with Rossi: fraud or
 not, he has discredited cold fusion research all the more spectacularly
 than anyone else. However, what I _don't_ understand is: why is there so
 much about Andrea Rossi here -- and precious little about e.g. the Martin
 Fleischmann Memorial Project..??





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Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Fire-ing Squad

2016-08-07 Thread Axil Axil
In this time of massive FUD production, it is near impossible to discover
how the world really works. What is your explanation of current affairs?

On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> Open source tech cannot garner the capital and R power to pose a
>> product and capability replacement threat to the anti Rossi FUD interests
>> that Rossi can. Be assured, the LENR wars have just begun.
>>
>
>
> That's the Neoliberal, 'entrepreneurial' cant -- but I don't believe it,
> and no one else should, either. It's just propaganda to keep asserting
> that, simply because it is the path of least resistance under the present
> circumstances, etc., yadda.
>
> People here should be primarily interested in the *SCIENCE*, no? -- and
> secondarily in the politics and financing (which of course *affect* the
> ability to DO the science... as we all should understand quite well by now).
>
>
>
>
>
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>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Che  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I understand why this list is utterly obsessed with Rossi: fraud or not,
>>> he has discredited cold fusion research all the more spectacularly than
>>> anyone else. However, what I _don't_ understand is: why is there so much
>>> about Andrea Rossi here -- and precious little about e.g. the Martin
>>> Fleischmann Memorial Project..??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Fire-ing Squad

2016-08-07 Thread Che
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> Open source tech cannot garner the capital and R power to pose a product
> and capability replacement threat to the anti Rossi FUD interests that
> Rossi can. Be assured, the LENR wars have just begun.
>


That's the Neoliberal, 'entrepreneurial' cant -- but I don't believe it,
and no one else should, either. It's just propaganda to keep asserting
that, simply because it is the path of least resistance under the present
circumstances, etc., yadda.

People here should be primarily interested in the *SCIENCE*, no? -- and
secondarily in the politics and financing (which of course *affect* the
ability to DO the science... as we all should understand quite well by now).





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> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Che  wrote:
>
>>
>> I understand why this list is utterly obsessed with Rossi: fraud or not,
>> he has discredited cold fusion research all the more spectacularly than
>> anyone else. However, what I _don't_ understand is: why is there so much
>> about Andrea Rossi here -- and precious little about e.g. the Martin
>> Fleischmann Memorial Project..??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Fire-ing Squad

2016-08-07 Thread Axil Axil
Open source tech cannot garner the capital and R power to pose a product
and capability replacement threat to the anti Rossi FUD interests that
Rossi can. Be assured, the LENR wars have just begun.

On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Che  wrote:

>
> I understand why this list is utterly obsessed with Rossi: fraud or not,
> he has discredited cold fusion research all the more spectacularly than
> anyone else. However, what I _don't_ understand is: why is there so much
> about Andrea Rossi here -- and precious little about e.g. the Martin
> Fleischmann Memorial Project..??
>
>
>
>
>


[Vo]:Cold Fusion Fire-ing Squad

2016-08-07 Thread Che
I understand why this list is utterly obsessed with Rossi: fraud or not, he
has discredited cold fusion research all the more spectacularly than anyone
else. However, what I _don't_ understand is: why is there so much about
Andrea Rossi here -- and precious little about e.g. the Martin Fleischmann
Memorial Project..??