Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...
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Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...
Why not wishing the money coming from somewhere else where the spent money is hundred times bigger for the same amount time, like, saying, from defense? 2012/9/14 MarkI-ZeroPoint > Daniel asks: > > “Anyway, why is big science bad?” > > ** ** > > Had the hundreds of billions of dollars spend on hot fusion and massive > particle colliders been put into material science, nanotech, graphene, > alternative fuels, etc., we would probably be much closer to sustainable > clean energy by now… Putting all your eggs in one or two baskets is just > not that likely to pay off… > > ** ** > > -Mark > > ** ** > > *From:* Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:49 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model... > > ** ** > > Well, they do not have a significance to claim to justify that SM is > incorrect. Besides, they are talking about decay rates of mesons, which are > bound states of mesons, meaning strong force interaction which is very > prone to errors in theoretical rate calculations. In the case of a growing > divergence, more calculations need to be done. > > ** ** > > Anyway, why is big science bad? Without comparing to big government. > > 2012/9/14 MarkI-ZeroPoint > > > > Researchers at SLAC find too many taus decay from bottom quarks to fit > Standard Model > > http://phys.org/news/2012-09-slac-taus-bottom-quarks-standard.html > > > > “Muons are generally produced in abundance in such collisions, whereas > taus are rare, and it's the amount of them that were produced in the > collisions at SLAC that has cast doubts on the Standard Model. Instead of > the 20% frequency rate predicted for D mesons, the researchers found a 31% > rate (and a 25% rate for D* mesons instead of the predicted 23%). These > differences are significant enough to cause pretty serious problems for > SUSY.” > > > > “To explain the differences between the theories and observed results the > researchers suggest that perhaps another Higgs Boson is at work; SUSY > suggests there may be as many as four, though research at CERN is still > ongoing to prove that what was observed earlier this year was in fact an > actual Higgs.” > > > > So they are working on justification for an even BIGGER collider to find > the 4 new Bosons! Big science is just as bad as government… continual > growth, even to the detriment of those which it is supposed to serve. > > > > -Mark Iverson > > > > > > > > ** ** > > -- > Daniel Rocha - RJ > > danieldi...@gmail.com > > ** ** > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
RE: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...
Daniel asks: "Anyway, why is big science bad?" Had the hundreds of billions of dollars spend on hot fusion and massive particle colliders been put into material science, nanotech, graphene, alternative fuels, etc., we would probably be much closer to sustainable clean energy by now. Putting all your eggs in one or two baskets is just not that likely to pay off. -Mark From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:49 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model... Well, they do not have a significance to claim to justify that SM is incorrect. Besides, they are talking about decay rates of mesons, which are bound states of mesons, meaning strong force interaction which is very prone to errors in theoretical rate calculations. In the case of a growing divergence, more calculations need to be done. Anyway, why is big science bad? Without comparing to big government. 2012/9/14 MarkI-ZeroPoint Researchers at SLAC find too many taus decay from bottom quarks to fit Standard Model http://phys.org/news/2012-09-slac-taus-bottom-quarks-standard.html "Muons are generally produced in abundance in such collisions, whereas taus are rare, and it's the amount of them that were produced in the collisions at SLAC that has cast doubts on the Standard Model. Instead of the 20% frequency rate predicted for D mesons, the researchers found a 31% rate (and a 25% rate for D* mesons instead of the predicted 23%). These differences are significant enough to cause pretty serious problems for SUSY." "To explain the differences between the theories and observed results the researchers suggest that perhaps another Higgs Boson is at work; SUSY suggests there may be as many as four, though research at CERN is still ongoing to prove that what was observed earlier this year was in fact an actual Higgs." So they are working on justification for an even BIGGER collider to find the 4 new Bosons! Big science is just as bad as government. continual growth, even to the detriment of those which it is supposed to serve. -Mark Iverson -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...
Well, they do not have a significance to claim to justify that SM is incorrect. Besides, they are talking about decay rates of mesons, which are bound states of mesons, meaning strong force interaction which is very prone to errors in theoretical rate calculations. In the case of a growing divergence, more calculations need to be done. Anyway, why is big science bad? Without comparing to big government. 2012/9/14 MarkI-ZeroPoint > ** ** > > Researchers at SLAC find too many taus decay from bottom quarks to fit > Standard Model > > http://phys.org/news/2012-09-slac-taus-bottom-quarks-standard.html > > ** ** > > “Muons are generally produced in abundance in such collisions, whereas > taus are rare, and it's the amount of them that were produced in the > collisions at SLAC that has cast doubts on the Standard Model. Instead of > the 20% frequency rate predicted for D mesons, the researchers found a 31% > rate (and a 25% rate for D* mesons instead of the predicted 23%). These > differences are significant enough to cause pretty serious problems for > SUSY.” > > ** ** > > “To explain the differences between the theories and observed results the > researchers suggest that perhaps another Higgs Boson is at work; SUSY > suggests there may be as many as four, though research at CERN is still > ongoing to prove that what was observed earlier this year was in fact an > actual Higgs.” > > ** ** > > So they are working on justification for an even BIGGER collider to find > the 4 new Bosons! Big science is just as bad as government… continual > growth, even to the detriment of those which it is supposed to serve. > > ** ** > > -Mark Iverson > > ** ** > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
[Vo]:FYI: too many taus for Standard Model...
Researchers at SLAC find too many taus decay from bottom quarks to fit Standard Model http://phys.org/news/2012-09-slac-taus-bottom-quarks-standard.html "Muons are generally produced in abundance in such collisions, whereas taus are rare, and it's the amount of them that were produced in the collisions at SLAC that has cast doubts on the Standard Model. Instead of the 20% frequency rate predicted for D mesons, the researchers found a 31% rate (and a 25% rate for D* mesons instead of the predicted 23%). These differences are significant enough to cause pretty serious problems for SUSY." "To explain the differences between the theories and observed results the researchers suggest that perhaps another Higgs Boson is at work; SUSY suggests there may be as many as four, though research at CERN is still ongoing to prove that what was observed earlier this year was in fact an actual Higgs." So they are working on justification for an even BIGGER collider to find the 4 new Bosons! Big science is just as bad as government. continual growth, even to the detriment of those which it is supposed to serve. -Mark Iverson
