[Vo]:Giordano Bruno was only burned as icon, and rather imprisoned...

2014-04-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
About mediatic and academic myth, similar to cold fusion , I fall on 3
possible challenge to our beliefs

the first one is really surprising, but they seems  documented

it is in French

http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/la-legende-de-giordano-bruno-une-escroquerie-anti-catholique/
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F16%2Fla-legende-de-giordano-bruno-une-escroquerie-anti-catholique%2Fsandbox=1

Basically they says that the declaration that Bruuno was burned alive is
based on a dubious document, and that it seems only his icon was burned and
he was rather imprisoned.

I'm not sure of that claims, as it is an activist source, but I won't be
surprised of such manipulation as I know a dozen of others of that kind.

beside that I've found an article that confirm the fact that during
Middleage people were believing in round earth...
http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/le-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate/
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F07%2F12%2Fle-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate%2Fsandbox=1

this comment describe the real story of Galileo, who tried to screw the
pope for a publication, after asking for imprimatur and giving a different
version of the paper for printing... He was never imprisoned in fact.

http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/le-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate/#comment-2442

too bad those articles are in french, but maybe people here know equivalent
sources.

It seems that in the 19th century many authors manipulated history to
attack Church and the opponents of their time...

I know similar manipulation about inquisition, with huge exaggeration and
much lack of understanding of the practice of the time.

all that make me think about the Titanic paper of Jed
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusion.pdf#page=4

it seems to be a rule.


Re: [Vo]:Giordano Bruno was only burned as icon, and rather imprisoned...

2014-04-20 Thread Alain Sepeda
I just found that version of the history of Bruno :
- he was burned
- but for serious herezy, telling god was rather a magician...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03016a.htm

the manipulation of history is confirmed, but the question is how far.
the previous authors deny the presence of confirmed evidence of his
burning, saying he was rather jailed.



2014-04-20 19:34 GMT+02:00 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com:

 About mediatic and academic myth, similar to cold fusion , I fall on 3
 possible challenge to our beliefs

 the first one is really surprising, but they seems  documented

 it is in French


 http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/la-legende-de-giordano-bruno-une-escroquerie-anti-catholique/

 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F16%2Fla-legende-de-giordano-bruno-une-escroquerie-anti-catholique%2Fsandbox=1

 Basically they says that the declaration that Bruuno was burned alive is
 based on a dubious document, and that it seems only his icon was burned and
 he was rather imprisoned.

 I'm not sure of that claims, as it is an activist source, but I won't be
 surprised of such manipulation as I know a dozen of others of that kind.

 beside that I've found an article that confirm the fact that during
 Middleage people were believing in round earth...

 http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/le-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate/

 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fbibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F07%2F12%2Fle-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate%2Fsandbox=1

 this comment describe the real story of Galileo, who tried to screw the
 pope for a publication, after asking for imprimatur and giving a different
 version of the paper for printing... He was never imprisoned in fact.


 http://bibliothequedecombat.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/le-moyen-age-na-jamais-cru-que-la-terre-etait-plate/#comment-2442

 too bad those articles are in french, but maybe people here know
 equivalent sources.

 It seems that in the 19th century many authors manipulated history to
 attack Church and the opponents of their time...

 I know similar manipulation about inquisition, with huge exaggeration and
 much lack of understanding of the practice of the time.

 all that make me think about the Titanic paper of Jed
 http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusion.pdf#page=4

 it seems to be a rule.



Re: [Vo]:Giordano Bruno was only burned as icon, and rather imprisoned...

2014-04-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just found that version of the history of Bruno :
 - he was burned
 - but for serious herezy, telling god was rather a magician...
 http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03016a.htm

Excerpt:

 God and the world are one; matter and spirit, body and soul, are two
phases of the same substance; the universe is infinite; beyond the
visible world there is an infinity of other worlds, each of which is
inhabited; this terrestrial globe has a soul; in fact, each and every
part of it, mineral as well as plant and animal, is animated; all
matter is made up of the same elements (no distinction between
terrestrial and celestial matter); all souls are akin (transmigration
is, therefore, not impossible).

end

Not unlike current scientific debate:

https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/5e7ed624986d

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=450560