Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

2011-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:


 At min 4:24
 John Maddox
 Editor of Nature magazine
 says: It [cold fusion] will remain dead for a long long time

 This to me means that it is not dead for forever, or 'temporarily
 dead' be it for a long time. Does anyone know what Mr. Maddox meant to
 say?


I believe that was taken from a BBC interview. I do not think that Maddox
talked to us directly.

That comment mystified Mallove and me. It was a distinctly odd thing to say.
It mystified some of our British friends too, so it was not some British
turn of phrase.

There is no way to know what Maddox meant because he is dead.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

2011-09-19 Thread Harry Veeder
For some context see 1:45 of this video posted by Steven Krivit.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Jp9L_6-BI
 
Harry

From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:30:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989


Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:


At min 4:24
John Maddox
Editor of Nature magazine
says: It [cold fusion] will remain dead for a long long time

This to me means that it is not dead for forever, or 'temporarily
dead' be it for a long time. Does anyone know what Mr. Maddox meant to
say?


I believe that was taken from a BBC interview. I do not think that Maddox 
talked to us directly. 


That comment mystified Mallove and me. It was a distinctly odd thing to say. 
It mystified some of our British friends too, so it was not some British turn 
of phrase.


There is no way to know what Maddox meant because he is dead.


- Jed





Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

2011-09-19 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Thanks, Harry, Jed,
Its clear now what his opinion was at least. Never liked Nature anyway :-).
On Sep 19, 2011 1:29 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For some context see 1:45 of this video posted by Steven Krivit.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Jp9L_6-BI

 Harry

 From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:30:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989


Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:


At min 4:24
John Maddox
Editor of Nature magazine
says: It [cold fusion] will remain dead for a long long time

This to me means that it is not dead for forever, or 'temporarily
dead' be it for a long time. Does anyone know what Mr. Maddox meant to
say?


I believe that was taken from a BBC interview. I do not think that Maddox
talked to us directly.


That comment mystified Mallove and me. It was a distinctly odd thing to
say. It mystified some of our British friends too, so it was not some
British turn of phrase.


There is no way to know what Maddox meant because he is dead.


- Jed






[Vo]:John Maddox, editor Nature magazine around 1989

2011-09-18 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Hello group,

I have a question, its not so important but it keeps bugging me.

In the movie
Heavy Watergate
Written by
Mallove, Rothwell  Frank

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562030534380820378

At min 4:24
John Maddox
Editor of Nature magazine
says: It [cold fusion] will remain dead for a long long time

This to me means that it is not dead for forever, or 'temporarily
dead' be it for a long time. Does anyone know what Mr. Maddox meant to
say? Was there maybe a piece of footage cut-of after these words, that
could explain what he actually meant to say? Did mr. Maddox himself
believe cold fusion was true? And did he believe that it would be dead
for a long time because the publicity was so negative?

In another movie the voice over on the same piece of footage suggest
that Mr Maddox was NOT believing anything about cold fusion, saying
Mr. Maddox was the last nail on the coffin.

I know, it doesn't matter all that much, it just keeps bugging me.

Thanks,
Bastiaan.