Re: [Vo]:Nanor
Does anyone know what the status is of the Nanor device at MIT? Has it been kept running? Has anyone duplicated the device and successfully run it? Nope --- But if you trust a dog (Shih-tzu), Dr Bob has some comments on Schwartz's presentation : http://www.drboblog.com/where-is-bob/ (Jan 28) http://www.drboblog.com/mit-class-day-2/ (Feb 1) Quick summary : they are regularly getting a COP of 40 (at 80 the equipment melts) -- but it's not yet at commercial watt-levels.
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Does anyone know what the status is of the Nanor device at MIT? Has it been kept running? Has anyone duplicated the device and successfully run it? Nope --- But if you trust a dog (Shih-tzu), Dr Bob has some comments on Schwartz's presentation : http://www.drboblog.com/where-is-bob/ (Jan 28) http://www.drboblog.com/mit-class-day-2/ (Feb 1) Quick summary : they are regularly getting a COP of 40 (at 80 the equipment melts) -- but it's not yet at commercial watt-levels. In the second link it says that, according to Hagelstein, the flux of the gamma rays produced by the Nanor device is comparable to that emitted by a banana. In light of this, here is a video about measuring gamma banana rays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SJH7VNAE0 Harry
[Vo]:Nanor
Does anyone know what the status is of the Nanor device at MIT? Has it been kept running? Has anyone duplicated the device and successfully run it? Thanks in advance. [mg]
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: Does anyone know what the status is of the Nanor device at MIT? Has it been kept running? Has anyone duplicated the device and successfully run it? Thanks in advance. [mg]
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m]
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: And the video is AWOL. Sigh. Damn. Well the .pdf is there: http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/HagelsteinPdemonstra.pdf Hagelstein's series of vids are still there. Number 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPe4TzdJsA Sorry, I don't know which of the series talks about NANOR.
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: And the video is AWOL. Sigh. Damn. Well the .pdf is there: http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/HagelsteinPdemonstra.pdf Hagelstein's series of vids are still there. Number 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPe4TzdJsA Sorry, I don't know which of the series talks about NANOR. Looks like the second one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IoIfL-rTs
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
I read that ... which is to say I scanned it but I can't draw any conclusions from it. Anyone willing to apply their huge brain to that document and summarize it? Thanks in advance. [m] On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: And the video is AWOL. Sigh. Damn. Well the .pdf is there: http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/HagelsteinPdemonstra.pdf
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than Barry Simon's (that I know). Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times was re-posted by me here: http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/ Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get through it to the end though!) From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video from the Swartz portion of the course soon. On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html http://world.std.com/%7Emica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m] -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org mailto:r...@coldfusionnow.org United States 1-707-616-4894 Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org http://www.coldfusionnow.org
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
technologists are waiting for KILOR and MEGAR Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than Barry Simon's (that I know). Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times was re-posted by me here: http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/ Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get through it to the end though!) From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video from the Swartz portion of the course soon. On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m] -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org United States 1-707-616-4894 Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
I must be behind the curve ... and what might KILOR and MEGAR be? [m] On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: technologists are waiting for KILOR and MEGAR Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than Barry Simon's (that I know). Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times was re-posted by me here: http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/ Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get through it to the end though!) From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video from the Swartz portion of the course soon. On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m] -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org United States 1-707-616-4894 Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
Easy to answer: something GREAT(ER) - much greater, useful and efficient. Generating intense heat, usable as a practical energy source. Science is magnificent, technology works for us. Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: I must be behind the curve ... and what might KILOR and MEGAR be? [m] On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.comwrote: technologists are waiting for KILOR and MEGAR Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than Barry Simon's (that I know). Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times was re-posted by me here: http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/ Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get through it to the end though!) From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video from the Swartz portion of the course soon. On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m] -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org United States 1-707-616-4894 Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Nanor
Peter,
Come on! Are those acronyms, flavors of vodka, ... What are you talking
about?
[mg]
On Thursday, January 31, 2013, Peter Gluck wrote:
Easy to answer: something GREAT(ER) - much greater, useful and efficient.
Generating intense heat, usable as a practical energy source.
Science is magnificent, technology works for us.
Peter
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Mark Gibbs
mgi...@gibbs.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mgi...@gibbs.com');
wrote:
I must be behind the curve ... and what might KILOR and MEGAR be?
[m]
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Peter Gluck
peter.gl...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'peter.gl...@gmail.com');
wrote:
technologists are waiting for KILOR and MEGAR
Peter
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'r...@hush.com'); wrote:
There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than
Barry Simon's (that I know).
Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times
was re-posted by me here:
http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/
Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here
and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get
through it to the end though!)
From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video
from the Swartz portion of the course soon.
On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton
hohlr...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'hohlr...@gmail.com');
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton
hohlr...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'hohlr...@gmail.com');
wrote:
Swartz has been very secretive. His web site:
http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html
Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff.
Probably the most info publicly available:
http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/
And the video is AWOL. Sigh.
[m]
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Cluj, Romania
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Re: [Vo]:Nanor
NANOR scaled-up from milliwatts up. Nothing to do with vodka. Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: Peter, Come on! Are those acronyms, flavors of vodka, ... What are you talking about? [mg] On Thursday, January 31, 2013, Peter Gluck wrote: Easy to answer: something GREAT(ER) - much greater, useful and efficient. Generating intense heat, usable as a practical energy source. Science is magnificent, technology works for us. Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: I must be behind the curve ... and what might KILOR and MEGAR be? [m] On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.comwrote: technologists are waiting for KILOR and MEGAR Peter On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote: There was no other video of the NANOR publicly available other than Barry Simon's (that I know). Mitchell Swartz's two summary of the course posted on Cold Fusion Times was re-posted by me here: http://coldfusionnow.org/2nd-week-summary-of-cold-fusion-101/ Hagelstein's video is of theoretical issues, and speaks of NANOR here and there for support, but there is no NANOR video included (I didn't get through it to the end though!) From the release on his website, it seems that there may be some video from the Swartz portion of the course soon. On 1/31/13 7:28 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Swartz has been very secretive. His web site: http://world.std.com/~mica/jettech.html Yep, that's a lot of ... er, stuff. Probably the most info publicly available: http://coldfusionnow.org/jet-energy-nanor-device-at-mit-continuing-to-operate-months-later/ And the video is AWOL. Sigh. [m] -- Ruby Carat r...@coldfusionnow.org United States 1-707-616-4894 Skype ruby-carat www.coldfusionnow.org -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:NANOR at M.I.T.
http://www.iscmns.org/work10/HagelsteinPdemonstra.pdf T
Re: [Vo]:NANOR at M.I.T.
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.iscmns.org/work10/HagelsteinPdemonstra.pdf I have difficulty understanding these graphs. They show so much they are confusing. Power on one axis and energy (in joules) on another. I am not familiar with the instruments or measurement techniques either, so I cannot judge them. However, it appear to me that both input and power are low, typically around 18 mW input. Output is ~60 mW in Run EJan31B. Such low power is difficult to measure and easy to get wrong, even with precision equipment. Run EJan31A has a higher peak, at ~180 mW I think. That is a lot easier to measure. I do not understand why it peaks instead of being stable, but it is reasonably high. Maybe they should use 10 of these things at a time, to boost the signal. - Jed
