RE: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
From: Eric Walker if deuterium works well with nickel electrodes, as Mizuno indicates - then why would anyone want to pay hundreds of times more for palladium? Perhaps for the tritium. But is there any evidence that palladium is preferable for tritium? At the recent MIT show-and-tell, it seems like Claytor – the researcher most associated with tritium as his primary research goal, was using Mu metal as the active electrode. <>
Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > if deuterium works well with nickel > electrodes, as Mizuno indicates - then why would anyone want to pay > hundreds > of times more for palladium? > Perhaps for the tritium. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
Jones Beene wrote: > Well… history disagrees with you… > > > > “Shortly after Pons and Fleischmann claimed in a March ‘89 press > conference that by electrolyzing heavy water using a palladium cathode - > they achieved nuclear fusion at room temperature, the price of palladium on > the commodities market soared from about $120 per troy ounce to over $180.” > Yes, there was that one-time effect, but nothing like that has happened since then. Cold fusion was quickly dismissed by leading scientists and by the mass media. It has not been in the news much since then. As I said at ICCF17, there is latent support for it, and more people know about than you might think, despite the mass media. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthefuturem.pdf - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
Well… history disagrees with you… “Shortly after Pons and Fleischmann claimed in a March ‘89 press conference that by electrolyzing heavy water using a palladium cathode - they achieved nuclear fusion at room temperature, the price of palladium on the commodities market soared from about $120 per troy ounce to over $180.” That was a 50% increase in a matter of day… From: Jed Rothwell Daniel Rocha wrote: I really don't think the mainstream investor has even heard about Rossi, much less they are likely to take him seriously. I agree. Investors do not take any form of cold fusion seriously. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
Daniel Rocha wrote: I really don't think the mainstream investor has even heard about Rossi, > much less they are likely to take him seriously. > I agree. Investors do not take any form of cold fusion seriously. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
I really don't think the mainstream investor has even heard about Rossi, much less they are likely to take him seriously. 2014-05-12 10:41 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene : > For a number of reasons, nickel has surged 41 per cent in London trading > this year. It is still below historic highs. > http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/nickel/ > > > > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
[Vo]:Nickel and Palladium prices
For a number of reasons, nickel has surged 41 per cent in London trading this year. It is still below historic highs. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/nickel/ Some of that price gain is supply related, but given the impending announcement of Rossi (hopefully positive), demand pressure could continue to push the price higher. Nickel is also used in lithium ion batteries and with Tesla's giga-factory adding to demand - more upward pressure. Speculators will magnify this trend. Yet - Palladium is at $863/oz and nickel is about ~$9/pound. The price difference is a ratio of about 1500:1 by weight. Since Mizuno's recent positive testing uses deuterium with nickel, then as a future trend we may be seeing the demise of palladium as having much of a viable role in LENR, except possibly as a few percent in an alloy or as a surface plating. The reasoning is that if deuterium works well with nickel electrodes, as Mizuno indicates - then why would anyone want to pay hundreds of times more for palladium? It may not work as well, much less better. However, there is evidence that an alloy of 90%Ni and 10%Pd is superior to nickel alone. Even if the price of nickel doubles, relative to Pd, it will still be 750 times cheaper by weight. <>
