Re: [Vo]:OT: Lead poisoning could really be A cause of violent crime

2013-02-17 Thread Michele Comitini
A theory credits lead poisoning as one of the causes of Roman Empire
decline.  Romans knew about lead dangers, but that theory is still
fascinating.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire#Lead_poisoning

mic

2013/2/17 Harry Veeder :
> I posted this after hearing a radio show about the research. That
> showed focused on the possible causes of the decline of crime in New
> York city during the 1990s. Mayor Rudy Giuliani's "no-broken window"
> policy is usually cited as the cause, but the researcher argues it may
> simply have be a delayed effect of the declining lead level which
> began in the Mid 1970s.
>
> Harry
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>> There has been good evidence of this for many years.
>>
>> There is a horrifying example of an apartment complex built over a highway
>> in the 1950s, exposed to the fumes of the cars with leaded gasoline. Large
>> number of children raised there became violent.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>



Re: [Vo]:OT: Lead poisoning could really be A cause of violent crime

2013-02-16 Thread Harry Veeder
I posted this after hearing a radio show about the research. That
showed focused on the possible causes of the decline of crime in New
York city during the 1990s. Mayor Rudy Giuliani's "no-broken window"
policy is usually cited as the cause, but the researcher argues it may
simply have be a delayed effect of the declining lead level which
began in the Mid 1970s.

Harry

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> There has been good evidence of this for many years.
>
> There is a horrifying example of an apartment complex built over a highway
> in the 1950s, exposed to the fumes of the cars with leaded gasoline. Large
> number of children raised there became violent.
>
> - Jed
>



Re: [Vo]:OT: Lead poisoning could really be A cause of violent crime

2013-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
There has been good evidence of this for many years.

There is a horrifying example of an apartment complex built over a highway
in the 1950s, exposed to the fumes of the cars with leaded gasoline. Large
number of children raised there became violent.

- Jed


[Vo]:OT: Lead poisoning could really be A cause of violent crime

2013-02-16 Thread Harry Veeder
Yes, lead poisoning could really be a cause of violent crime

It seems crazy, but the evidence about lead is stacking up. Behind
crimes that have destroyed so many lives, is there a much greater
crime?

At first it seemed preposterous. The hypothesis was so exotic that I
laughed. The rise and fall of violent crime during the second half of
the 20th century and first years of the 21st were caused, it proposed,
not by changes in policing or imprisonment, single parenthood,
recession, crack cocaine or the legalisation of abortion, but mainly
by … lead.

I don't mean bullets. The crime waves that afflicted many parts of the
world and then, against all predictions, collapsed, were ascribed, in
an article published by Mother Jones last week, to the rise and fall
in the use of lead-based paint and leaded petrol.

It's ridiculous – until you see the evidence. Studies between cities,
states and nations show that the rise and fall in crime follows, with
a roughly 20-year lag, the rise and fall in the exposure of infants to
trace quantities of lead. But all that gives us is correlation: an
association that could be coincidental. The Mother Jones article,
which is based on several scientific papers, claimed causation.

more...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/07/violent-crime-lead-poisoning-british-export


Harry