Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-08 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira

On 2011-04-05 20:51, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

Rossi continues to answer and/or avoid answering questions.



I find this of interest too:

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473

[...] The walls of the reactor are made of stainless steel, copper 
free. Yes, I have understood why scaling up we have more difficulties to 
have a flat curve of Delta T. Also the theory is consolidating. I am 
learning a lot in this period, I learnt a lot from the Professors of The 
Universities of Bologna, Stockolm and Uppsala ( in alphabetic order, of 
course) and from the People of DOE and DOD in the USA. From them there 
is really to learn. They say 10-20 words and from those words I get a 
universe of informations. In these last 2 months we made substantial 
evolution, after every test I redesigned and remade the reactors. Today 
I am in the USA factory of Leonardo Corporation where I signed a 
contract of tremendous importance. As soon as I will be allowed to 
announce it, believe me, it will be extremely important.


So, reportedly, he is still in the process of improving his reactors 
(that's a good thing) and has just made an important agreement with a 
currently unknown (to us) entity. I wonder what could it be. It sounds 
like we will find out soon, anyway.


Cheers,
S.A.



Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you very much for signalling this- it si a proof that he is doing
healthy logical professional DEVELOPMENT. Very interesting and very
different from scientific research- has a lot more dimensions, including
human ones. (I was engaged in thsi type of activity for 25 years in nthe
chenmical industry)  It is possible he will abandon or radically change the
idea of modular development. I would not like to get energy from an army of
indisciplined generators. We will see.

This kind of technological evolution is described in my problem solving
rules too:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-rules-of-problem-solving.html

8 .*NOT* the solutions that seem perfect from the start, but those which are
very perfectible are the best in many cases.

9*. NOT *the bright, shiny, spectacular solutions but those elaborated,
worked out with difficulty and effort and patience are more valuable and
have a larger area of applicability.

Let's hope Rossi will make the best decisions.
Peter

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 2011-04-05 20:51, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

 Rossi continues to answer and/or avoid answering questions.


 I find this of interest too:

 http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473

 [...] The walls of the reactor are made of stainless steel, copper free.
 Yes, I have understood why scaling up we have more difficulties to have a
 flat curve of Delta T. Also the theory is consolidating. I am learning a lot
 in this period, I learnt a lot from the Professors of The Universities of
 Bologna, Stockolm and Uppsala ( in alphabetic order, of course) and from the
 People of DOE and DOD in the USA. From them there is really to learn. They
 say 10-20 words and from those words I get a universe of informations. In
 these last 2 months we made substantial evolution, after every test I
 redesigned and remade the reactors. Today I am in the USA factory of
 Leonardo Corporation where I signed a contract of tremendous importance. As
 soon as I will be allowed to announce it, believe me, it will be extremely
 important.

 So, reportedly, he is still in the process of improving his reactors
 (that's a good thing) and has just made an important agreement with a
 currently unknown (to us) entity. I wonder what could it be. It sounds like
 we will find out soon, anyway.

 Cheers,
 S.A.




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:22 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder what could it be. It sounds like we will
 find out soon, anyway.

My guess is Lockheed-Martin.  I've heard rumblings of something coming
from Marietta; but, I always thought it was EEStor.

T



RE: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry

  I wonder what could it be. It sounds like we will
  find out soon, anyway.
 
 My guess is Lockheed-Martin.  I've heard rumblings of something coming
 from Marietta; but, I always thought it was EEStor.

Wallmart!  ...where they treat you like family!

Just kidding. (I wish!)

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Alan J Fletcher


William :
My understanding is that the reactor volume in the original E-CAT was
around 1 liter or 1000cc and that the new smaller module has a volume of
about 1/20th of a liter or 50cc. Is this correct? 
Also, what is the standard power rating of this smaller module? Is it
officially 2.5 kW? 

April 6th, 2011 at 7:20 PM 
Dear Mr William:
The answer is yes to both questions.
A.R.
- - - -

April 7th, 2011 at 7:42 AM 
Dear Mr. Mats Heijkenskjold:
To change the charge we change the whole module, then the change of the
charge is made from us in our factory. The 1 MW plant has more modules
than necessary, so that they are changed in turn when it is time.
Good question,





Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
 William :

 My understanding is that the reactor volume in the original E-CAT was around
 1 liter or 1000cc and that the new smaller module has a volume of about
 1/20th of a liter or 50cc. Is this correct?

 Also, what is the standard power rating of this smaller module? Is it
 officially 2.5 kW?

The article indicated 4 kW with 300 ganged to make 1 MW less input.

T



[Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-05 Thread Alan J Fletcher


Rossi continues to answer and/or avoid answering questions.

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=14#comments

Andrea Rossi 

April 5th, 2011 at 5:24 AM 

Dear Mr Antonio Di Stefano:
Thank you for your suggestions. The minimum size is a module of 2.5 kW of
power, so far.
Warm regards,
A.R.
Peter Gluck 

April 4th, 2011 at 12:02 PM 
Dear Ing. Rossi,
Metaphorically speaking, why do you intend to combine so many smallish
E-cats, instead of creating a greater E-feline- an
E-lion, E-tiger or something like that? Is there a size, volume limit for
the reactors?

Andrea Rossi 

April 4th, 2011 at 9:28 PM 
Dear Mr. Gluck:
I prefer to use small modules for economy scale and safety issues. To
combine even thousands of modules in series and parallels is easy, and
zero risk time thousands is always zero. Why risk?
Warm regards,
A.R.





Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-05 Thread Peter Gluck
I have asked him because I dislike the planned method of scale up. I hope he
has already tested step-wise combinations of, say  3, 12, 25 E-cats working
together. As with the airplanes- the start period is critical- heat peaks or
inhibition, oscillations (I think) An E-lion must have a more
sophisticated internal structure.
Peter

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:

  Rossi continues to answer and/or avoid answering questions.

  http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=14#comments

- Andrea Rossi April 5th, 2011 at 5:24 
 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=14#comment-31263
Dear Mr Antonio Di Stefano: Thank you for your suggestions. The minimum
size is a module of 2.5 kW of power, so far. Warm regards, A.R.

 Peter Gluck http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
  April 4th, 2011 at 12:02 
 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=13#comment-31140

 Dear Ing. Rossi,

 Metaphorically speaking, why do you intend to combine so many smallish
 E-cats, instead of creating a greater E-feline- an
 E-lion, E-tiger or something like that? Is there a size, volume limit for
 the reactors?


 Andrea Rossi
  April 4th, 2011 at 9:28 
 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=13#comment-31197

 Dear Mr. Gluck:
 I prefer to use small modules for economy scale and safety issues. To
 combine even thousands of modules in series and parallels is easy, and zero
 risk time thousands is always zero. Why risk?
 Warm regards,
 A.R.




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-05 Thread mixent
In reply to  Alan J Fletcher's message of Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:51:18 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Dear Mr. Gluck:
I prefer to use small modules for economy scale and safety issues. To combine 
even thousands of modules in series and parallels is easy, and zero risk time 
thousands is always zero. Why risk?
Warm regards,
A.R.

...well one good reason would be to save on Lead shielding. The thickness of the
Lead is constant, so you use less per unit volume for a larger cylinder radius.
Presumably the power would scale with the volume, thus improving the Lead to
power ratio and making the power cheaper.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:Ongoing Rossi Blog stuff

2011-04-05 Thread Peter Gluck
I think the problem is heat management and control; it seems that there very
frequent heat peaks at the start- and local overheating can destroy the
active sites. In the same time the triggering of the reaction needs uniform
heat.

One problem to be solved is that of design- a good commercial aspect/form
has to be worked (as a small refrigerator at PESN (?) now the E-cat looks as
a phallos specialized in rape as I wrote to a friend.
Peter

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:40 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 In reply to  Alan J Fletcher's message of Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:51:18 -0700:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 Dear Mr. Gluck:
 I prefer to use small modules for economy scale and safety issues. To
 combine even thousands of modules in series and parallels is easy, and zero
 risk time thousands is always zero. Why risk?
 Warm regards,
 A.R.

 ...well one good reason would be to save on Lead shielding. The thickness
 of the
 Lead is constant, so you use less per unit volume for a larger cylinder
 radius.
 Presumably the power would scale with the volume, thus improving the Lead
 to
 power ratio and making the power cheaper.
 Regards,

 Robin van Spaandonk

 http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com