RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-18 Thread hellokevin
The problem with your 6-point list is that anyone who meets such a criteria 
would already have a project of their own set in motion.  
 
I would love to see an Open Source LENR project that doesn't depend upon being 
an expert.  Something along the lines of replicating the recent Hight School 
Cold Fusion project at Pirelli.  
 
Kevmo

--- On Fri, 5/18/12, Jones Beene  wrote:


From: Jones Beene 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, May 18, 2012, 8:44 AM


I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post
here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart,
qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions.

If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities
known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public
priorities reversed. 

It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over
onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ...

        _
        From: Jones Beene 

        Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here
... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc
type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... 

        (Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there
are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a
hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet
managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do)

1)    No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR
2)    No known associates in the field 
3)    No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this
kind of work
4)    No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory
5)    Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd
place)
6)    Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is
a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost
laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform
the work.
                
                They're coming out of woodwork these days,
encouraged that Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little
scientifically documented results... not to mention the current unemployment
rate. Look at the dozens of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are
honest efforts, sure - but most are "me-too" with a PayPal account.

                It's almost a gold rush, or should we say
"nickel-hydrogen rush"...
        
                From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net 
        
I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L

http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html
  
Kevmo

    



Re: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Dorr  wrote:


> Interesting, the guy that is starting this "Open Source Project" is named
> Gary Wright from Las Vegas. The guy that turned in Rossi in Florida for
> building nuclear reactors was also named Gary Wright from Las Vegas. A
> coincidence?


Hmmm . . . Probably not. Whitepages.com shows 5 people named Gary Wright in
Las Vegas, NV. Not many. Our man might be unlisted, so perhaps he is not
included, but my point is: this is not a particularly common name.

All of those Gary Wrights are over 60 years of age. That probably is a
coincidence.

There are 6 people named Gary Wright in Atlanta.

There are 19 people named John Smith in the city of Las Vegas, and 40 in
greater Las Vegas including the suburbs.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-18 Thread Robert Dorr



Interesting, the guy that is starting this "Open Source Project" is 
named Gary Wright from Las Vegas. The guy that turned in Rossi in 
Florida for building nuclear reactors was also named Gary Wright from 
Las Vegas. A coincidence?


Robert Dorr



At 08:44 AM 5/18/2012, you wrote:

I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post
here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart,
qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions.

If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities
known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public
priorities reversed.

It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over
onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ...

_
From: Jones Beene

Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here
... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc
type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ...

(Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there
are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a
hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet
managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do)


I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L

 http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html

Kevmo








RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-18 Thread Jones Beene
I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post
here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart,
qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions.

If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities
known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public
priorities reversed. 

It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over
onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ...

_
From: Jones Beene 

Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here
... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc
type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... 

(Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there
are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a
hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet
managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do)

1)  No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR
2)  No known associates in the field 
3)  No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this
kind of work
4)  No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory
5)  Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd
place)
6)  Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is
a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost
laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform
the work.

They're coming out of woodwork these days,
encouraged that Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little
scientifically documented results... not to mention the current unemployment
rate. Look at the dozens of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are
honest efforts, sure - but most are "me-too" with a PayPal account.

It's almost a gold rush, or should we say
"nickel-hydrogen rush"...

From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net 

I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L
 
 http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html
  
Kevmo
 


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RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-18 Thread Jones Beene
Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here ... on what has
the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc type of
derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... 

(Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there are any - and do
not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a hero inventor who
has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet managed to present
his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do)

1)  No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR
2)  No known associates in the field 
3)  No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this
kind of work
4)  No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory
5)  Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd
place)
6)  Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is
a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost
laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform
the work.

They're coming out of woodwork these days, encouraged that
Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little scientifically documented
results... not to mention the current unemployment rate. Look at the dozens
of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are honest efforts, sure - but
most are "me-too" with a PayPal account.

It's almost a gold rush, or should we say "nickel-hydrogen
rush"...

From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net 

I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L
 
 http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html
  
Kevmo
 


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[Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-17 Thread hellokevin
I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L
 

 http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html
 
 
Kevmo