RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
The problem with your 6-point list is that anyone who meets such a criteria would already have a project of their own set in motion. I would love to see an Open Source LENR project that doesn't depend upon being an expert. Something along the lines of replicating the recent Hight School Cold Fusion project at Pirelli. Kevmo --- On Fri, 5/18/12, Jones Beene wrote: From: Jones Beene Subject: RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Friday, May 18, 2012, 8:44 AM I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart, qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions. If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public priorities reversed. It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ... _ From: Jones Beene Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here ... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... (Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do) 1) No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR 2) No known associates in the field 3) No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this kind of work 4) No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory 5) Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd place) 6) Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform the work. They're coming out of woodwork these days, encouraged that Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little scientifically documented results... not to mention the current unemployment rate. Look at the dozens of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are honest efforts, sure - but most are "me-too" with a PayPal account. It's almost a gold rush, or should we say "nickel-hydrogen rush"... From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html Kevmo
Re: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
Robert Dorr wrote: > Interesting, the guy that is starting this "Open Source Project" is named > Gary Wright from Las Vegas. The guy that turned in Rossi in Florida for > building nuclear reactors was also named Gary Wright from Las Vegas. A > coincidence? Hmmm . . . Probably not. Whitepages.com shows 5 people named Gary Wright in Las Vegas, NV. Not many. Our man might be unlisted, so perhaps he is not included, but my point is: this is not a particularly common name. All of those Gary Wrights are over 60 years of age. That probably is a coincidence. There are 6 people named Gary Wright in Atlanta. There are 19 people named John Smith in the city of Las Vegas, and 40 in greater Las Vegas including the suburbs. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
Interesting, the guy that is starting this "Open Source Project" is named Gary Wright from Las Vegas. The guy that turned in Rossi in Florida for building nuclear reactors was also named Gary Wright from Las Vegas. A coincidence? Robert Dorr At 08:44 AM 5/18/2012, you wrote: I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart, qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions. If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public priorities reversed. It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ... _ From: Jones Beene Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here ... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... (Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do) I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html Kevmo
RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
I should add that there are several qualified open-source advocates who post here regularly - Brad Lowe and Jaro are two of them. They are smart, qualified and not hiding anything to arouse suspicions. If Gary is in that category, my apologies. He should make his abilities known. Maybe he is a dream-weaver extraordinaire who merely has his public priorities reversed. It is a not really a fine line, yet as of now he appears to be well over onto the Aussie-Guy (Greg Watson) side of that line ... _ From: Jones Beene Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here ... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... (Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do) 1) No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR 2) No known associates in the field 3) No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this kind of work 4) No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory 5) Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd place) 6) Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform the work. They're coming out of woodwork these days, encouraged that Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little scientifically documented results... not to mention the current unemployment rate. Look at the dozens of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are honest efforts, sure - but most are "me-too" with a PayPal account. It's almost a gold rush, or should we say "nickel-hydrogen rush"... From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html Kevmo <>
RE: [Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
Hello Kevin - You ask why there has been no discussion here ... on what has the hallmarks of a Dennis Lee/ Carl Tilley/ Mike Brady, etc type of derivative scam - with no apparent redeeming qualities ... (Please feel free to list the redeeming qualities, if there are any - and do not take this the wrong way, if the claimant is indeed a hero inventor who has somehow hidden his true identity carefully; and yet managed to present his venture exactly like Dennis Lee would do) 1) No papers, publications, or even prior postings in LENR 2) No known associates in the field 3) No known qualifications, CV, or related expertise to perform this kind of work 4) No lab, no prototype, no PoC, not theory 5) Las Vegas is the scam capital of the Universe (with Calgary in 2nd place) 6) Tin cup featured prominently - couching the venture as a "trust" is a new twist, apparently to inspire confidence. "Open-source" is almost laughable, when you are asking for donations but have no skills to perform the work. They're coming out of woodwork these days, encouraged that Rossi has gotten so much publicity with so little scientifically documented results... not to mention the current unemployment rate. Look at the dozens of sites with "E-Cat" in their name. Many are honest efforts, sure - but most are "me-too" with a PayPal account. It's almost a gold rush, or should we say "nickel-hydrogen rush"... From: helloke...@sbcglobal.net I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html Kevmo <>
[Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project
I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html Kevmo