Re: [Vo]:Q-wave may be weak

2012-04-21 Thread Alain Sepeda
you don't compare the same level of understanding

DGT reactor, like Rossi, and Brillouin are intrinsically safe for the same
reason, melting

DGT internet supervision is a maintenance problem, unrelated to
stability/safety, except on long term knowledge and failure anticipation

DGT have a phenomenological model of the reaction, useful to stabilize it.
(Rossi normally also, it is an engineering need)

DGT use a pulse width/frequency modulation to control the reaction. They
don't talk of their controller, but there are not many solution (it should
be predictive model based)
Rossi don't tell about the method of control (probably not pulse but,
according to the delay, the average power input) but say he use the classic
predictive model method...

Having the good theory might be useful, but not so sure, since the most
important is to know the behavior of the reaction according to transient
event (temperature/pressure/vibration/(un)loading)...
good phenomenological model can be more useful for everyday stability.
however theory can help about intrinsic safety, and off-limit knowledge.

for be the breakthrough of Brillouin is their proposed theory, which first
is a revolution because it says that nickel is not the fuel, but the
catalyst, but also the H/D/T/H4/He4 process (look like Takahashi TSC, but
step by step).

The 511keV gamma is a good point for them (beta+ consequence of H4 decay to
He4, leading to e+/e- disintegration), but like He4 it is  not an
unequivocal  signature.

2012/4/21 Guenter Wildgruber 

>
> compare this to
> DGT: internet supervision of reactors
> Rossi: intrinsically safe: self-stopping in case of overheating
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Q-wave may be weak

2012-04-21 Thread Guenter Wildgruber





 Von: Axil Axil 
An: vortex-l  
Gesendet: 21:44 Samstag, 21.April 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:Q-wave may be weak
 

>Reading between the lines, it sounds like Brilliuon Energy is concerned about 
>the low efficiency of their reaction in >terms of COP. This area may be a weak 
>spot in the Brilliuon Energy reaction approach.

Axil, as far as I read the situation it is about a battle of COP versus 
controllability.
DGT, Rossi, Brillouin differ wrt that.

Brillouin seems to be the most open, in that Godes states that 

a) he/B. understood the process
b) he/B. can control the process 


compare this to 

DGT: internet supervision of reactors
Rossi: intrinsically safe: self-stopping in case of overheating

 
If we assume that LENR is a commercial item, then
a) it has to be made sure that it is a SAVE, controllable technology
b) COP is maximized
c) temperature is in the 400-500degC range
d) it can be switched on/off with low latency.

in this order.

So there is a lot of competition, considering the basic technology is workable.

To think that one of those competitors throws the others out of the market, is 
not realistic.
Even Piantelli  is not out of the market, just because the competitors have 
bigger mouth.

This is a BIG market.

NO  potential market participant has to worry about anything.

Guenter

Re: [Vo]:Q-wave may be weak

2012-04-21 Thread Alan Fletcher
Associated article at 
http://pesn.com/2012/04/19/9602078_Brillouin--Understanding_How_LENR_Works_Will_Enable_Us_to_Be_First/

- Original Message -
> From: "Axil Axil" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:44:38 PM
> Subject: [Vo]:Q-wave may be weak
> 
> Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy.
> http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417



[Vo]:Q-wave may be weak

2012-04-21 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding:

Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy.
http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417

A COP of 2.9 for the “wet system” that Brilliuon Energy has currently
developed is not going to be competitive in the marketplace for providing
hot water. The Q-wave stimulant of the reaction is not efficient in my
opinion.

The “dry system” where hydrogen is used in the envelope similar to Rossi is
a total unknown quantity and might not produce increased COP as Brilliuon
Energy hopes.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like Brilliuon Energy is concerned
about the low efficiency of their reaction in terms of COP. This area may
be a weak spot in the Brilliuon Energy reaction approach.

Rossi uses chemical assistance to improve reaction efficiency. IMHO, there
is currently no positive indication that Brilliuon Energy’s Q-wave
stimulant will equal the efficiency of Rossi’s reaction and simultaneously
provide precise control of the Brilliuon Energy reaction.