Re: [Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
>From page three: Level of 1000 oC was overcome after 5 hours of heating. But the report says heater input was 684000 joules. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=300+Watts+*+38+minutes+in+joules Sarg might be right here. The results are interesting, but the COP is being very optimistic, to get an accurate reading you need to sustain those outputs for much longer to outweigh the temp raise to 1000. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and >> temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide #16 >> (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated energy? If >> not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >> > >
Re: [Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=energy+to+heat+1.2+kg+of+water+to+100+celsius Wow, wolfram is amazing. Who needs to be a scientist! :D On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > errr, 4.8 joules in a calorie even. Yeah science ain't my strong suit! > I should just stick to the social proof thing.. > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> sorry, 4.8 calories in a joule. Nvm >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If it takes 540 calories are needed to turn 1 gram (at 100 degrees >>> Celsius) of water to steam, than that's 540 * 1200 * .23 = 149000 joules, >>> right? >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Also... is 2712000 the right amount for vaporization of the water? Doesn't it have to be dry steam to reach that energy amount? Looking at his set up, it seems like it would be pretty wet. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < > blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and >> temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide >> #16 (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated >> energy? If not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >> > > >>> >> >
[Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
errr, 4.8 joules in a calorie even. Yeah science ain't my strong suit! I should just stick to the social proof thing.. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > sorry, 4.8 calories in a joule. Nvm > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> If it takes 540 calories are needed to turn 1 gram (at 100 degrees >> Celsius) of water to steam, than that's 540 * 1200 * .23 = 149000 joules, >> right? >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Also... is 2712000 the right amount for vaporization of the water? >>> Doesn't it have to be dry steam to reach that energy amount? Looking at his >>> set up, it seems like it would be pretty wet. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: > Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and > temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide > #16 (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated > energy? If not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. > >>> >> >
[Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
sorry, 4.8 calories in a joule. Nvm On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > If it takes 540 calories are needed to turn 1 gram (at 100 degrees > Celsius) of water to steam, than that's 540 * 1200 * .23 = 149000 joules, > right? > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> Also... is 2712000 the right amount for vaporization of the water? >> Doesn't it have to be dry steam to reach that energy amount? Looking at his >> set up, it seems like it would be pretty wet. >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide #16 (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated energy? If not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >>> >>> >> >
[Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
If it takes 540 calories are needed to turn 1 gram (at 100 degrees Celsius) of water to steam, than that's 540 * 1200 * .23 = 149000 joules, right? On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Also... is 2712000 the right amount for vaporization of the water? > Doesn't it have to be dry steam to reach that energy amount? Looking at his > set up, it seems like it would be pretty wet. > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker < >> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and >>> temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide >>> #16 (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated >>> energy? If not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >>> >> >> >
[Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
Also... is 2712000 the right amount for vaporization of the water? Doesn't it have to be dry steam to reach that energy amount? Looking at his set up, it seems like it would be pretty wet. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker > wrote: > >> Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and >> temperature before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide #16 >> (does he mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated energy? If >> not a much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >> > >
[Vo]:Re: Note by translator Stoyan Sarg on Russian Report
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y3Bxr_aE2iosEKpGFUZiQgAcuT8AFN78RFCAlR-JqNw/edit On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Note by translator Stoyan Sarg: The initial heating power and temperature > before reaching 1C is not shown in the plot of slide #16 (does he > mean 17?). Is it taken into account for the accumulated energy? If not a > much longer test is needed for estimation of the COP. >