Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
That is probably true.

Harry


On Sat., Apr. 8, 2023, 6:36 p.m. Robin, 
wrote:

> In reply to  H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:33:53 -0400:
> Hi,
>
> It might be (almost) Earthquake proof.
>
> [snip]
> >From a traditional perspective this structure does not look like a free
> >standing structure but it does stand upright like one.
> >
> >harry
> [snip]
> Cloud storage:-
>
> Unsafe, Slow, Expensive
>
> ...pick any three.
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to  H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:33:53 -0400:
Hi,

It might be (almost) Earthquake proof.

[snip]
>From a traditional perspective this structure does not look like a free
>standing structure but it does stand upright like one.
>
>harry
[snip]
Cloud storage:-

Unsafe, Slow, Expensive 

...pick any three.



Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
"You can't push on a string" is a kind of engineer's cliche about the
mechanical properties of string.
Typically a loose length of string comes to mind when we think of string.
Normally we don't expect a loose string to offer (much) resistance when we
push on it we say "you can't push on a string". However, by tensioning a
string it does become possible to meaningfully speak of pushing on it.

As far as I know such a single string tensegrity structure can be explained
using natural law that is over 300 years old. This is not an argument
against tradition but I suppose older traditions of how to build structures
have kept people from recognizing it as a possibility until more recently.
>From a traditional perspective this structure does not look like a free
standing structure but it does stand upright like one.

harry



On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 4:20 PM Robin 
wrote:

> In reply to  H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:22:26 -0400:
> Hi,
>
> ...but you are not pushing on a string. The "push" acts on the solid ribs,
> which in turn connect with each other by
> "pulling" on the central string. In fact all the strings are "pulled" on.
>
> [snip]
> >"You can't push on a string"
> >
> >I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring
> >when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing it up right.
> >If you skip to the second half of the video he shows how to use a block of
> >wood to assemble the structure more quickly.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-scY9qESE
> >
> >Another builder made a taller and heavier single string tensegrity tower
> as
> >well as a single string table.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUjpkmisBs
> >
> >Some history.
> >The Latvian-Soviet artist/sculptor/engineer Karlis Johansons exhibited his
> >first "self-tensile constructions" in 1921. The engineering and sculptural
> >possibilities of such pre-tensioned systems were further explored by
> >Buckminster Fuller and the sculptor Kenneth Snelson in the second half of
> >the 20th century. (eg. see Snelson's "Needle Tower") The word tensegrity
> >(tensile + integrity) coined by Fuller is now the common name for such
> >structures. I have noticed that the first tensegrity structures focused on
> >the use of straight struts, but now people are starting to explore the
> >possibilities of using curved struts.
> >
> >Harry
> Cloud storage:-
>
> Unsafe, Slow, Expensive
>
> ...pick any three.
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread Robin
In reply to  H L V's message of Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:22:26 -0400:
Hi,

...but you are not pushing on a string. The "push" acts on the solid ribs, 
which in turn connect with each other by
"pulling" on the central string. In fact all the strings are "pulled" on.

[snip]
>"You can't push on a string"
>
>I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring
>when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing it up right.
>If you skip to the second half of the video he shows how to use a block of
>wood to assemble the structure more quickly.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-scY9qESE
>
>Another builder made a taller and heavier single string tensegrity tower as
>well as a single string table.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUjpkmisBs
>
>Some history.
>The Latvian-Soviet artist/sculptor/engineer Karlis Johansons exhibited his
>first "self-tensile constructions" in 1921. The engineering and sculptural
>possibilities of such pre-tensioned systems were further explored by
>Buckminster Fuller and the sculptor Kenneth Snelson in the second half of
>the 20th century. (eg. see Snelson's "Needle Tower") The word tensegrity
>(tensile + integrity) coined by Fuller is now the common name for such
>structures. I have noticed that the first tensegrity structures focused on
>the use of straight struts, but now people are starting to explore the
>possibilities of using curved struts.
>
>Harry
Cloud storage:-

Unsafe, Slow, Expensive 

...pick any three.



Re: [Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
A different example using string and wire.
https://youtu.be/EUlG0OGQmEA

Harry

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM H L V  wrote:

>
> "You can't push on a string"
>
> I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring
> when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing it up right.
> If you skip to the second half of the video he shows how to use a block of
> wood to assemble the structure more quickly.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-scY9qESE
>
> Another builder made a taller and heavier single string tensegrity tower
> as well as a single string table.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUjpkmisBs
>
> Some history.
> The Latvian-Soviet artist/sculptor/engineer Karlis Johansons exhibited his
> first "self-tensile constructions" in 1921. The engineering and sculptural
> possibilities of such pre-tensioned systems were further explored by
> Buckminster Fuller and the sculptor Kenneth Snelson in the second half of
> the 20th century. (eg. see Snelson's "Needle Tower") The word tensegrity
> (tensile + integrity) coined by Fuller is now the common name for such
> structures. I have noticed that the first tensegrity structures focused on
> the use of straight struts, but now people are starting to explore the
> possibilities of using curved struts.
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>
>
>


[Vo]:Single string tensegrity structure

2023-04-08 Thread H L V
"You can't push on a string"

I think this single string tensegrity structure is even more awe inspiring
when he briefly holds it as a cantilever before standing it up right.
If you skip to the second half of the video he shows how to use a block of
wood to assemble the structure more quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-scY9qESE

Another builder made a taller and heavier single string tensegrity tower as
well as a single string table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUjpkmisBs

Some history.
The Latvian-Soviet artist/sculptor/engineer Karlis Johansons exhibited his
first "self-tensile constructions" in 1921. The engineering and sculptural
possibilities of such pre-tensioned systems were further explored by
Buckminster Fuller and the sculptor Kenneth Snelson in the second half of
the 20th century. (eg. see Snelson's "Needle Tower") The word tensegrity
(tensile + integrity) coined by Fuller is now the common name for such
structures. I have noticed that the first tensegrity structures focused on
the use of straight struts, but now people are starting to explore the
possibilities of using curved struts.

Harry