Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Cook
Axil, Chuck, etal--

I would add that the presence of a magnetic field reduces the  locations the 
PSI allows and increases the probability that any two particles will occupy the 
same location.  IMO this is a basis for controlling the rate of reactions in 
NAE.  I also consider it is improper not to consider the effects of spin 
coupling and spin mass changes in such systems.  I do not know how Kim etal 
handle this issue nor the effect of magnetic resonances associated with their 
BEC's in a NAE.

I consider the same situation can occur with fewer particles in a face centered 
cubic lattice of Pd or Ni or any other such crystalline cell when packed with D 
or H.  This may be more likely near a surface or under high Zeta electric 
potentials in an electro-chemical cell.  The presence of Li near a surface and 
inside the lattice fcc cell may also occasion nuclear reactions in combination 
with H or D or both.  A small number of  Cooper Pairs of H (Bose particles) may 
act like Kim's BEC in a NAE.  

Again, keep in mind that the local magnetic field modifies the PSI, including 
energy states associated with spin energy, and causes degeneration of the 
allowable energy states and the allowable positions for particles it 
controls.  In a packed space the fewer the positions available the more 
likely any allowable position is occupied.  Therefore, particle interactions 
become more likely.  

Most simple treatments of the PSI's do not include the consideration of energy 
states associated with a system in a magnetic field (B field) within a solid 
state.  A quick review of the Wikipedia discussion of PSI wave functions seems 
to neglect the issue of an ambient magnetic field and its influence on the 
energy states of the Hamiltonian describing kinetic and potential energy of the 
system and as further described by the PSI.  

(It has always been my opinion that spin energy and angular momentum must 
impact the overall PSI of a QM coherent system and the transitions that allow 
mass energy to change to radiation and escape the system  or heat in the form 
of kinetic energy of the lattice.)

Bob Cook
  - Original Message - 
  From: CB Sites 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat


  Thanks for the reference Kevin.  I see you and Axil really got into this 
idea.  I read your-all's whole thread exchange and it's inspiring.   What I 
also should add is that Storm is inspiring as well.  I really asked him several 
times what he meant by NAE (the Nuclear Active Environment) and it was never 
clear to me what he meant until I saw a youtube video of him describing it at 
one of the CF conferences.   If I understand the jist of that, he is claiming 
that at dislocations, certain metal crystals, D or H atoms will fill the 
dislocation.  At the dislocations, there is enough electron screening that the 
particles in dislocation can interact strongly.  
 
  Just to pitch it out there, Y.E. Kim and his students have already worked 
through his N-Body BECs (N100) and found some interesting outcomes.The 
reason BECs are so important is that is when the PSI of the wave function 
geometrically extended and |PSI^2| is the probability of finding a particle at 
a particular position.  When a superposition of PSI's occurs (overlapping 
waves), the overlap describes a probability that interaction can occur.  That 
interaction will probably be electromagnetic, but it can also be by strong 
interactions if E/M is screened.  In a BEC every particle overlaps with 
every-other particle, and geometrically the PSI's can be huge; mm in size.  The 
overlaps can be very large and the probabilities for interaction by strong 
force component of the wave function can be large too.  In my mind, if you have 
a BEC of D ions, you will have fusion.  The same concept could even apply to 
the core of the sun.


  NAE's are Nuclear Active Environments, or lattice dislocation (environments), 
that are Nuclear active.  It's a location that is conducive to an N-body 
nuclear interaction between fusing objects.  Dr. Storm suggests lattice 
dislocations along some crystal direction like a 010 or a 001 ... could form 
the environment for an N-body interaction.  While Kim has theory of N-body, he 
doesn't have any theory on a geometrically constrained BEC.   Say an N-body 
reaction on the 011 lattice defect for example.  When a reaction occurs,  Do 
the lattice atoms on the end of the BEC chain participate? 


  It's fascinating to speculate on this.   









  On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:

started thinking about new concept of 1D strings of Boson

***Sounds like my V1DLLBEC theory. 
https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg95060.html

et al



On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for the report Axil.   That is an 

Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-20 Thread CB Sites
That is an interesting point that I've not thought about, but Nickel does
express a degree of magnetic susceptibility that is unlike other metals.
So right there, Ni's spin influence is part of the mix. In a lattice
dislocation (like the NAE Dr. Storms argues for), the spin of the Ni atoms
in the NAE could be of huge consequence.   Suppose the effect is dependent
on the NAE concept, and a lattice defect that is conducive to spin aligning
an N body string of hydrogen.  It's an interesting problem.



On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil, Chuck, etal--

 I would add that the presence of a magnetic field reduces the  locations
 the PSI allows and increases the probability that any two particles will
 occupy the same location.  IMO this is a basis for controlling the rate of
 reactions in NAE.  I also consider it is improper not to consider the
 effects of spin coupling and spin mass changes in such systems.  I do not
 know how Kim etal handle this issue nor the effect of magnetic resonances
 associated with their BEC's in a NAE.

 I consider the same situation can occur with fewer particles in a face
 centered cubic lattice of Pd or Ni or any other such crystalline cell when
 packed with D or H.  This may be more likely near a surface or under high
 Zeta electric potentials in an electro-chemical cell.  The presence of Li
 near a surface and inside the lattice fcc cell may also occasion nuclear
 reactions in combination with H or D or both.  A small number of  Cooper
 Pairs of H (Bose particles) may act like Kim's BEC in a NAE.

 Again, keep in mind that the local magnetic field modifies the PSI, *including
 energy states associated with spin energy*, and causes degeneration of
 the allowable energy states and the allowable positions for particles it
 controls.  In a packed space the fewer the positions available the more
 likely any allowable position is occupied.  Therefore, particle
 interactions become more likely.

 Most simple treatments of the PSI's do not include the consideration of
 energy states associated with a system in a magnetic field (B field) within
 a solid state.  A quick review of the Wikipedia discussion of PSI wave
 functions seems to neglect the issue of an ambient magnetic field and its
 influence on the energy states of the Hamiltonian describing kinetic and
 potential energy of the system and as further described by the PSI.

 (It has always been my opinion that spin energy and angular momentum must
 impact the overall PSI of a QM coherent system and the transitions that
 allow mass energy to change to radiation and escape the system  or heat in
 the form of kinetic energy of the lattice.)

 Bob Cook

 - Original Message -
 *From:* CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:16 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the
 E-Cat

 Thanks for the reference Kevin.  I see you and Axil really got into this
 idea.  I read your-all's whole thread exchange and it's inspiring.   What I
 also should add is that Storm is inspiring as well.  I really asked him
 several times what he meant by NAE (the Nuclear Active Environment) and it
 was never clear to me what he meant until I saw a youtube video of him
 describing it at one of the CF conferences.   If I understand the jist of
 that, he is claiming that at dislocations, certain metal crystals, D or H
 atoms will fill the dislocation.  At the dislocations, there is enough
 electron screening that the particles in dislocation can interact strongly.


 Just to pitch it out there, Y.E. Kim and his students have already worked
 through his N-Body BECs (N100) and found some interesting outcomes.The
 reason BECs are so important is that is when the PSI of the wave function
 geometrically extended and |PSI^2| is the probability of finding a particle
 at a particular position.  When a superposition of PSI's occurs
 (overlapping waves), the overlap describes a probability that interaction
 can occur.  That interaction will probably be electromagnetic, but it can
 also be by strong interactions if E/M is screened.  In a BEC every particle
 overlaps with every-other particle, and geometrically the PSI's can be
 huge; mm in size.  The overlaps can be very large and the probabilities for
 interaction by strong force component of the wave function can be large
 too.  In my mind, if you have a BEC of D ions, you will have fusion.  The
 same concept could even apply to the core of the sun.

 NAE's are Nuclear Active Environments, or lattice dislocation
 (environments), that are Nuclear active.  It's a location that is conducive
 to an N-body nuclear interaction between fusing objects.  Dr. Storm
 suggests lattice dislocations along some crystal direction like a 010 or a
 001 ... could form the environment for an N-body interaction.  While Kim
 has theory of N-body, he doesn't have any theory on a geometrically
 

Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-19 Thread CB Sites
Thanks for the report Axil.   That is an impressive shift and certainly not
coincidental.  Gas is $2.90 at the pump.  Is this just a reaction to the
idea of cheap fusion energy?

I'm still reading Vortex-L although I don't have as much time to
participate as I would like.   I haven't abandoned the BEC ideas, and
always read yours with enthusiasm.  I've been thinking a lot about Storm's
ideas on the NEA stuff, and started thinking about new concept of 1D
strings of Boson, and other 1D string quantum chains and trying to derive
interaction probabilities.   I need more time to dedicate to the math, but
using Y. E. Kim and crew as a starting point, and the replacing X, with
X[chain], I'm hoping to see a Phi for S=0 on the X[chain].   Has anyone
looked at Storm's predictions about Rossi's experiment?

Have Fun,
Chuck




On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=394

 The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

 While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out
 that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock.
 Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed
 volatile since…

 [image: lugano]
 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/lugano.png



Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-19 Thread Kevin O'Malley
 started thinking about new concept of 1D strings of Boson
***Sounds like my V1DLLBEC theory.
https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg95060.html
et al

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report Axil.   That is an impressive shift and certainly
 not coincidental.  Gas is $2.90 at the pump.  Is this just a reaction to
 the idea of cheap fusion energy?

 I'm still reading Vortex-L although I don't have as much time to
 participate as I would like.   I haven't abandoned the BEC ideas, and
 always read yours with enthusiasm.  I've been thinking a lot about Storm's
 ideas on the NEA stuff, and started thinking about new concept of 1D
 strings of Boson, and other 1D string quantum chains and trying to derive
 interaction probabilities.   I need more time to dedicate to the math, but
 using Y. E. Kim and crew as a starting point, and the replacing X, with
 X[chain], I'm hoping to see a Phi for S=0 on the X[chain].   Has anyone
 looked at Storm's predictions about Rossi's experiment?

 Have Fun,
 Chuck




 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=394

 The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

 While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out
 that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock.
 Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed
 volatile since…

 [image: lugano]
 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/lugano.png





Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-19 Thread Kevin O'Malley
When a reaction occurs,  Do the lattice atoms on the end of the BEC chain
participate?

It's fascinating to speculate on this.
***Here's a speculation.  Inside of a BEC, fusion takes place.  And due to
the nature of a BEC, the nuclear reactive products (gammas) are dispersed
quite evenly.But some of those products are still so energetic that
they generate  very direct rays into  the metal matrix in such a way that
they transmute the products of the host metal, all the way down to Nickel62
in Rossi's case.

Why are those nuclear reactive products  so directed?  Because they were
LINEAR BECs, with only one direction of energy outflow:  at either end of
the line BEC. Also, interesting interactions take place between  linear
BECS and the rest of the bulk mass--collisions, spin transfers, BEC growth,
and chemical pushback. All of which generate heat but no gammas to speak
of.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:16 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the reference Kevin.  I see you and Axil really got into this
 idea.  I read your-all's whole thread exchange and it's inspiring.   What I
 also should add is that Storm is inspiring as well.  I really asked him
 several times what he meant by NAE (the Nuclear Active Environment) and it
 was never clear to me what he meant until I saw a youtube video of him
 describing it at one of the CF conferences.   If I understand the jist of
 that, he is claiming that at dislocations, certain metal crystals, D or H
 atoms will fill the dislocation.  At the dislocations, there is enough
 electron screening that the particles in dislocation can interact strongly.


 Just to pitch it out there, Y.E. Kim and his students have already worked
 through his N-Body BECs (N100) and found some interesting outcomes.The
 reason BECs are so important is that is when the PSI of the wave function
 geometrically extended and |PSI^2| is the probability of finding a particle
 at a particular position.  When a superposition of PSI's occurs
 (overlapping waves), the overlap describes a probability that interaction
 can occur.  That interaction will probably be electromagnetic, but it can
 also be by strong interactions if E/M is screened.  In a BEC every particle
 overlaps with every-other particle, and geometrically the PSI's can be
 huge; mm in size.  The overlaps can be very large and the probabilities for
 interaction by strong force component of the wave function can be large
 too.  In my mind, if you have a BEC of D ions, you will have fusion.  The
 same concept could even apply to the core of the sun.

 NAE's are Nuclear Active Environments, or lattice dislocation
 (environments), that are Nuclear active.  It's a location that is conducive
 to an N-body nuclear interaction between fusing objects.  Dr. Storm
 suggests lattice dislocations along some crystal direction like a 010 or a
 001 ... could form the environment for an N-body interaction.  While Kim
 has theory of N-body, he doesn't have any theory on a geometrically
 constrained BEC.   Say an N-body reaction on the 011 lattice defect for
 example.  When a reaction occurs,  Do the lattice atoms on the end of the
 BEC chain participate?

 It's fascinating to speculate on this.






 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 started thinking about new concept of 1D strings of Boson
 ***Sounds like my V1DLLBEC theory.
 https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg95060.html
 et al

 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report Axil.   That is an impressive shift and certainly
 not coincidental.  Gas is $2.90 at the pump.  Is this just a reaction to
 the idea of cheap fusion energy?

 I'm still reading Vortex-L although I don't have as much time to
 participate as I would like.   I haven't abandoned the BEC ideas, and
 always read yours with enthusiasm.  I've been thinking a lot about Storm's
 ideas on the NEA stuff, and started thinking about new concept of 1D
 strings of Boson, and other 1D string quantum chains and trying to derive
 interaction probabilities.   I need more time to dedicate to the math, but
 using Y. E. Kim and crew as a starting point, and the replacing X, with
 X[chain], I'm hoping to see a Phi for S=0 on the X[chain].   Has anyone
 looked at Storm's predictions about Rossi's experiment?

 Have Fun,
 Chuck




 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=394

 The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

 While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out
 that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock.
 Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed
 volatile since…

 [image: lugano]
 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/lugano.png







Re: [Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-19 Thread CB Sites
Thanks for the reference Kevin.  I see you and Axil really got into this
idea.  I read your-all's whole thread exchange and it's inspiring.   What I
also should add is that Storm is inspiring as well.  I really asked him
several times what he meant by NAE (the Nuclear Active Environment) and it
was never clear to me what he meant until I saw a youtube video of him
describing it at one of the CF conferences.   If I understand the jist of
that, he is claiming that at dislocations, certain metal crystals, D or H
atoms will fill the dislocation.  At the dislocations, there is enough
electron screening that the particles in dislocation can interact strongly.


Just to pitch it out there, Y.E. Kim and his students have already worked
through his N-Body BECs (N100) and found some interesting outcomes.The
reason BECs are so important is that is when the PSI of the wave function
geometrically extended and |PSI^2| is the probability of finding a particle
at a particular position.  When a superposition of PSI's occurs
(overlapping waves), the overlap describes a probability that interaction
can occur.  That interaction will probably be electromagnetic, but it can
also be by strong interactions if E/M is screened.  In a BEC every particle
overlaps with every-other particle, and geometrically the PSI's can be
huge; mm in size.  The overlaps can be very large and the probabilities for
interaction by strong force component of the wave function can be large
too.  In my mind, if you have a BEC of D ions, you will have fusion.  The
same concept could even apply to the core of the sun.

NAE's are Nuclear Active Environments, or lattice dislocation
(environments), that are Nuclear active.  It's a location that is conducive
to an N-body nuclear interaction between fusing objects.  Dr. Storm
suggests lattice dislocations along some crystal direction like a 010 or a
001 ... could form the environment for an N-body interaction.  While Kim
has theory of N-body, he doesn't have any theory on a geometrically
constrained BEC.   Say an N-body reaction on the 011 lattice defect for
example.  When a reaction occurs,  Do the lattice atoms on the end of the
BEC chain participate?

It's fascinating to speculate on this.






On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
wrote:

 started thinking about new concept of 1D strings of Boson
 ***Sounds like my V1DLLBEC theory.
 https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg95060.html
 et al

 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:36 PM, CB Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report Axil.   That is an impressive shift and certainly
 not coincidental.  Gas is $2.90 at the pump.  Is this just a reaction to
 the idea of cheap fusion energy?

 I'm still reading Vortex-L although I don't have as much time to
 participate as I would like.   I haven't abandoned the BEC ideas, and
 always read yours with enthusiasm.  I've been thinking a lot about Storm's
 ideas on the NEA stuff, and started thinking about new concept of 1D
 strings of Boson, and other 1D string quantum chains and trying to derive
 interaction probabilities.   I need more time to dedicate to the math, but
 using Y. E. Kim and crew as a starting point, and the replacing X, with
 X[chain], I'm hoping to see a Phi for S=0 on the X[chain].   Has anyone
 looked at Storm's predictions about Rossi's experiment?

 Have Fun,
 Chuck




 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=394

 The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

 While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out
 that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock.
 Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed
 volatile since…

 [image: lugano]
 http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/lugano.png






[Vo]:The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

2014-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/?p=394

The Big Banks are Certainly Paying Attention to the E-Cat

While looking in the logs after publishing the E-Cat report I found out
that within minutes it was downloaded by an IP number owned by Blackrock.
Within minutes after that oil futures started to fall and have stayed
volatile since…

[image: lugano]
http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/lugano.png