Re: [Vo]:The "E8" ToE

2008-10-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Odd.  That's exactly how many roads a man must walk down.

Terry

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attention Hitchhikers ("42" alert):
>
> This is not new-news, as it was written up months ago in Wired:
>
> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/02/ted_lisi
>
> But what is new is that more-and-more very sharp folks - the
> creme-de-la-creme of theoretical fizzix, are taking as serious look, and
> saying that a new ToE (Theory of Everything) is holding up surprisingly well
> to close scrutiny, despite the author's somewhat flippant demeanor and
> preference for surfing (the ocean variety).
>
> It could evolve into ... well... 42 ??
>
> The basics:
>
> The universe is 8 dimensional, or more depending on who is reinterpreting.
>
> It is of a geometry called a "Gosset E8" discovered 108 years ago by Gosset:
> "On the Regular and Semi-Regular Figures in Space of n Dimensions,"
> Messenger of Mathematics, Macmillan, 1900. Thorold Gosset was an eccentric
> English lawyer and who liked mathematics.  Apparently, Gosset thought it 8
> dimensional
>
> Unfortunately, it is the most complex of the 8-space geometries aka 4sub21.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-polytope
>
> The E8 of Gosset was then outfitted with all of the forces of nature by an
> eccentric American "surfer dude" named Lisi. And it was "elegant" which is a
> real turn-on to the theoretician. It is now advanced from its original
> geometric (NeoPlatonic) mysticism.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Garrett_Lisi
>
> in "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything " which itself borrows
> heavily from the work of others.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything
>
> Chances are, we will be hearing a lot more of this, as it evolves and gets
> "brought down to earth"; and it is very possible that it will tell us
> something about the aether, and perhaps even point the way that it can be
> engineered for gainfulness. There is little doubt in my mind that with all
> dimensions, it is somewhere. In fact the AWT (aether wave theory) is based
> on the same E8.
>
> As you may have guessed the "Exceptionally Simple" part is a "Lie" (to
> understand this pun, you will have to do some goggling).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_algebra
>
> Jones
>
>
>
>
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[Vo]:The "E8" ToE

2008-10-05 Thread Jones Beene
Attention Hitchhikers ("42" alert):

This is not new-news, as it was written up months ago in Wired:

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/02/ted_lisi

But what is new is that more-and-more very sharp folks - the creme-de-la-creme 
of theoretical fizzix, are taking as serious look, and saying that a new ToE 
(Theory of Everything) is holding up surprisingly well to close scrutiny, 
despite the author's somewhat flippant demeanor and preference for surfing (the 
ocean variety). 

It could evolve into ... well... 42 ??

The basics:

The universe is 8 dimensional, or more depending on who is reinterpreting. 

It is of a geometry called a "Gosset E8" discovered 108 years ago by Gosset: 
"On the Regular and Semi-Regular Figures in Space of n Dimensions," Messenger 
of Mathematics, Macmillan, 1900. Thorold Gosset was an eccentric English lawyer 
and who liked mathematics.  Apparently, Gosset thought it 8 dimensional

Unfortunately, it is the most complex of the 8-space geometries aka 4sub21.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-polytope

The E8 of Gosset was then outfitted with all of the forces of nature by an 
eccentric American "surfer dude" named Lisi. And it was "elegant" which is a 
real turn-on to the theoretician. It is now advanced from its original 
geometric (NeoPlatonic) mysticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Garrett_Lisi

in "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything " which itself borrows heavily 
from the work of others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything

Chances are, we will be hearing a lot more of this, as it evolves and gets 
"brought down to earth"; and it is very possible that it will tell us something 
about the aether, and perhaps even point the way that it can be engineered for 
gainfulness. There is little doubt in my mind that with all dimensions, it is 
somewhere. In fact the AWT (aether wave theory) is based on the same E8.

As you may have guessed the "Exceptionally Simple" part is a "Lie" (to 
understand this pun, you will have to do some goggling).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_algebra

Jones