RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com 

 I wasn't implying that Isomer energy violated CoE. I was referring to
your
statement that the whole process would be 'double exotherm' which I took to
mean
that both the creation and destruction of the isomer would yield energy.

Obviously, Robin - with anything so fundamentally at odds with the
mainstream understanding of nuclear energy, as the Rossi device is (assuming
it is real) the details will need to be fleshed out over time. This is only
the beginning of a rough attempt to do that.

The easiest way that I can explain how this can happen, in terms of ZPE
theory and not having access to important details from Rossi, is to assume
that an already unstable nucleus such as Te-123 or Te-125 or Zr-96 in the
case of Arata/etc can absorb a virtual photon and release a real photon.

This would be similar to fluorescence except involving the zero point field.

 I must admit that the whole process you are describing is as clear as mud
to me.

Well, thanks for the input anyway, and I hope to make this clearer over
time. or else abandon it, if it does not stand up to criticism. Hey - that's
what this forum is about, no?
 
 Specifically, where does the energy come from at each step of the process,
and
what are the steps for that matter?

Here is the way it looks now, stepwise, in trying to recreate the sequence
which is needed to get excess energy.

1) Hydrogen is converted to spillover (endothermic)

2) Spillover accumulates in Casimir Pits or cavities (neutral)

3) At a trigger temperature level, in the range of 250-350 C, IR heat is
absorbed and re-emitted by the pycno in the surface cavities sequentially,
with an asymmetry due to the Lamb shift (gainful), or due to relativistic
effects

4) There would be a transitory net gain from steps 1-3, from the zero point
field for a short time (sub second) w/o a source to replenish ZPF; but a net
loss (endotherm) is expected when run for a longer periods with no
metastable fuel (which is an expected Casimir cooling effect)

5) Any energy deficit in the ZPF stimulates decay from metastable nuclei,
since part of their inherent stability is via virtual photons which are
absent.

6) These metastable nuclei begin to decay at accelerated rates leading to an
enhanced correlation field which develops over time so that a different
kind of chain reaction is seen. This is the intangible 'criticality' level.

7) Much of the radiation couples to the ZPF to restore the energy balance
from gain derived from ZPE 'pumping' (#3 above)

8) Net gain can be seen in 3-space when everything is properly engineered so
that the correlation field is above a threshold of critical accumulation,
and the energy of metastable nuclei is released above the lowest stimulus
level.
 
9) The gain per metastable atom is at least ~100,000 times chemical but far
less than fission or fusion - and the only ash seen is in a change isotope
ratio of the tellurium (or other metastable fuel) with occasionally nuclear
transmutations due to the small proportion of high energy photons that do
not couple to the ZPF but end up in 3-space instead.

10) The purpose of the nano-nickel is solely as a spillover catalyst. 

IOW Rossi himself got the roles completely reversed and his catalyst is
the fuel, whereas his fuel (nano nickel) is the catalyst.

How is that for slightly clearer than mud ? :-)

Jones





Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jones:

...

 9) The gain per metastable atom is at least ~100,000 times chemical but far
 less than fission or fusion - and the only ash seen is in a change isotope
 ratio of the tellurium (or other metastable fuel) with occasionally nuclear
 transmutations due to the small proportion of high energy photons that do
 not couple to the ZPF but end up in 3-space instead.


From:

While trying to educate myself on the mysteries of the element,
Tellurium, I came across the following tidbit:

From: http://www.ptable.com/

Excerpt:

*

Precautions

Tellurium and tellurium compounds are considered to be mildly toxic
and need to be handled with care, although acute poisoning is
rare.[59] Tellurium is not reported to be carcinogenic.[59]

Humans exposed to as little as 0.01 mg/m3 or less in air develop
tellurium breath, which has a garlic-like odor.[50] The garlic odor
that is associated with human intake of tellurium compounds is caused
from the tellurium being metabolized by the body. When the body
metabolizes tellurium in any oxidation state, the tellurium gets
converted into dimethyl telluride, (CH3)2Te, which is volatile and is
the cause of the garlic-like smell. Even though the metabolic pathways
of tellurium are not known, it is generally assumed that they resemble
those of the more extensively studied selenium, because the final
methylated metabolic products of the two elements are
similar.[60][61][62]

*

Of particular interest: ...tellurium gets converted into dimethyl
telluride, (CH3)2Te, which is volatile...

The first thing that popped in my fecund activated brain was wondering
if tellurium poisoning might also help explain some of the mysterious
cases of Spontaneous Human Combustion we occasionally hear about.
these victims tend to end up being almost entirely consumed by a VERY
INTENSE SOURCE OF HEAT!  It would be interesting to know whether there
exists anecdotal evidence to suggest that some of these victims had
bad breath - garlic breath. I gather many SHC victims were not in
the best of health, which also suggests the possibility that some
might have been suffering from some kind of metabolic poisoning.

(Don't light a match!)

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Although I agree with most if not all of the proposed ZPED theory my position 
is that many of the non nuclear or hybrid theories like Mills', Rossi or Haisch 
- Moddel depend on an ashless reaction powered directly from ZPE as the 
predominant source of energy. Many contend that any energy extraction from ZPE 
violates the first law of thermodynamics but this is because the first law 
assumes ZPE is too chaotic to be exploited (Apparently true in an isotropic 
energy density but not confirmed when said isotropy is broken into gradients). 
Many of the claims of anomalous heat all seem to occur when this isotropy is 
broken and, IMHO, represent an interim ashless reaction. The reaction can be a 
chemical or physical asymmetry such that the gas atoms are modified in some way 
before returning to a particular energy density - the asymmetry even opposes 
this return and it is left for ZPE to overcome this opposition. Reifenschweiler 
effect may reflect how ZPE manipulates Space-Time to satisfy this asymmetry in 
restoring an orbital to ground state by dilating time.

What Puthoff and others refer to as vacuum engineering or, vacuum energy 
suppression, provides a loophole to this assumed violation of COE upon which a 
Heisenberg trap could be based.  The amount of ash seen in these experiments 
does not seem to be in keeping with the amount of energy released. The theory 
Jones presents is itself a hybrid between nuclear and Zero Point energy where 
decay is enhanced by change in energy density / supression. This theory still 
results in an exchange of mass for energy in a manner which I completely agree 
with yet I still remain convinced that energy can also be harvested directly 
(in exchange for time dilation) from zero point energy without radioactive 
decay or conversion of mass. I am alone in seeing a connection between 
spontaneous emission, pyrophoricity and radioactivity, Although the first two 
are not radioactive I propose that they are all a result of energy balancing  
between a Puthoof atomic model ground state and vacuum energy density. Rapid 
changes in energy density are associated with catalytic action (pores in 
skeletal catalysts and nano powders) , spontaneous emission of photons and 
anomalous half life decays (cavity supression). My point is that these 
imbalances don't have to result in radioactive decay but rather the ground 
state could interact with the energy density to  be propelled through space 
and/or time as a result. 
Regards
Fran

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com 

How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,
and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a
'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few
papers
to base an informed opinion.

RvS - If so, it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, so
it's not
very likely IMO.


Robin - 

No, no. Nuclear fission or fusion do not violate CoE for the simple reason
that mass is converted to energy. This is no different.

Induced gamma emission (IGE) or internal conversion (IT) are both solid
fact, not hypothetical. Mass is being converted to energy as in fission and
fusion. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_gamma_emission

The hypothetical part of it - especially as it might relate to the E-Cat via
the ZPED theory is that the gamma emission can be stimulated by a deficit
in the zero point field, and that some (or most) of the induced emission
couples directly to the depleted field... and that isotope redistribution
reveals the ultimate mass deficit. 

That is not too big a stretch IMO. It does not violate CoE.

The few elements subject to so-called isomer energy are no different in
metastability than are the fission candidates Th, U or Pu - except the
excess mass identity is less clear; this is because the beginning and
ending element can be the same but not necessarily the isotope balance. I
have tried to find any study which connects IGE to isotope distribution
shifts, but if there are any - then they are classified.

Isomer energy itself is a newer field that was born out of top secret
military devices like the hafnium or tantalum (gamma) lasers, and especially
the UAV program. What the nature of the loss mass involved consists of, is
nebulous: Gluons? Pions? who knows? IOW - it is too early to say what kind
of mass is being converted, so one must simply consider this to be a
subset of IGE for now. (or else dismiss it as unproved).

For any CoE violation, one would need to show that no mass is being
converted, which is next to impossible with an element like tellurium that
has no many isotopes and isomers including the metastable Te-123, which it
is a most excellent candidate for any kind of isotope

Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 How is that for slightly clearer than mud ? J

I do understand; but, it seems like a Heath Robinson approach to avoid
(con)fusion.

Noble if not Nobel.

T



Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Terry Blanton
Sooo, where does Ni come into play?  Is it the spillover catalyst or
is Pd?  And which material has the Casimir cavities?  The Ni or the
Zr?

I think a pycno piccy would be nice.

T



RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
Nickel is probably in the form of an alloy and serves as the spillover
catalyst, however, since pure nickel, even nano-sized - is not as good as
alloys. 

Rossi answers straight-out to one question that he uses no precious metals,
right?

Of course, his credibility is in doubt for that and other reasons, but many
alloys of nickel are quite good for spillover, and it does not have to be
Pd. 

For instance Ni-Mo is quite good with only 5-10% Mo added.

One of Miley's paper actually had a rough drawing of how he thinks IRH might
appear but I can't remember which one.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

Sooo, where does Ni come into play?  Is it the spillover catalyst or
is Pd?  And which material has the Casimir cavities?  The Ni or the
Zr?

I think a pycno piccy would be nice.

T





RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread Jones Beene
Fran - I generally agree except the problem with Mills or Haisch/Moddel et
al. is that they make claims for the nickel hydrogen reaction alone, not
requiring a second stage nuclear 'makeup' reaction - but the claims cannot
be verified by others. They probably can do it, but not robustly and perhaps
not for extended periods.

Until they can do it 'on demand', it seems reasonable to suggest that Rossi
is essentially doing a similar thing, yet he (inadvertently) provided a
pathway for nuclear gain, and that extra detail seems to have allowed him to
demonstrate a robust reaction in circumstances where others get mixed
results.

Mills has not asked me for advice but if he did, I would suggest adding an
active ingredient to his solid fuel reactor that does have this ZPED
pathway for accelerated decay. Same with Haisch/Moddel. 

The first thing to try is bismuth telluride, and the second is zirconia.
Either of these must be recycled with heat and pressure several times to
achieve nano-fracturing; but they probably do not need to be nanopowder at
the outset (hopefully). It is that simple (almost).

This setup might also require a nuclear trigger like thorium. 

Can you interest Moddel in trying this? It could be as simple as adding a
commercially obtained product to an earlier experiment.

Jones



-Original Message-
From: Roarty, Francis X 

Although I agree with most if not all of the proposed ZPED theory my
position is that many of the non nuclear or hybrid theories like Mills',
Rossi or Haisch - Moddel depend on an ashless reaction powered directly from
ZPE as the predominant source of energy. Many contend that any energy
extraction from ZPE violates the first law of thermodynamics but this is
because the first law assumes ZPE is too chaotic to be exploited (Apparently
true in an isotropic energy density but not confirmed when said isotropy is
broken into gradients). Many of the claims of anomalous heat all seem to
occur when this isotropy is broken and, IMHO, represent an interim ashless
reaction. The reaction can be a chemical or physical asymmetry such that the
gas atoms are modified in some way before returning to a particular energy
density - the asymmetry even opposes this return and it is left for ZPE to
overcome this opposition. Reifenschweiler effect may reflect how ZPE
manipulates Space-Time to satisfy this asymmetry in restoring an orbital to
ground state by dilating time.

What Puthoff and others refer to as vacuum engineering or, vacuum energy
suppression, provides a loophole to this assumed violation of COE upon which
a Heisenberg trap could be based.  The amount of ash seen in these
experiments does not seem to be in keeping with the amount of energy
released. The theory Jones presents is itself a hybrid between nuclear and
Zero Point energy where decay is enhanced by change in energy density /
supression. This theory still results in an exchange of mass for energy in a
manner which I completely agree with yet I still remain convinced that
energy can also be harvested directly (in exchange for time dilation) from
zero point energy without radioactive decay or conversion of mass. I am
alone in seeing a connection between spontaneous emission, pyrophoricity and
radioactivity, Although the first two are not radioactive I propose that
they are all a result of energy balancing  between a Puthoof atomic model
ground state and vacuum energy density. Rapid changes in energy density are
associated with catalytic action (pores in skeletal catalysts and nano
powders) , spontaneous emission of photons and anomalous half life decays
(cavity supression). My point is that these imbalances don't have to result
in radioactive decay but rather the ground state could interact with the
energy density to  be propelled through space and/or time as a result. 
Regards
Fran

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:41 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long
post)

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com 

How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,
and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a
'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few
papers
to base an informed opinion.

RvS - If so, it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, so
it's not
very likely IMO.


Robin - 

No, no. Nuclear fission or fusion do not violate CoE for the simple reason
that mass is converted to energy. This is no different.

Induced gamma emission (IGE) or internal conversion (IT) are both solid
fact, not hypothetical. Mass is being converted to energy as in fission and
fusion. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_gamma_emission

The hypothetical part of it - especially as it might relate to the E-Cat via
the ZPED theory is that the gamma emission can be stimulated by a deficit
in the zero point field

Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:49:33 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
3) At a trigger temperature level, in the range of 250-350 C, IR heat is
absorbed and re-emitted by the pycno in the surface cavities sequentially,
with an asymmetry due to the Lamb shift (gainful), or due to relativistic
effects

I thought the Lamb shift was between 2S  2P levels. I'm not sure that these
levels even apply to pycno.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-21 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:49:33 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
6) These metastable nuclei begin to decay at accelerated rates leading to an
enhanced correlation field which develops over time so that a different
kind of chain reaction is seen. This is the intangible 'criticality' level.


...here again, there are no metastable atoms in Te AFAIK. All nuclei are in
their ground state. 

As I understand it, there is nothing magical about the metastable states. They
are excited nuclear states, just like the excited states of other nuclei, except
that they are spin prohibited from photon decay to the ground state. That's why
they have such long half lives. 

Because they are like other excited states, I see no reason why they should be
especially susceptible to acquiring a virtual photon and releasing it as a real
photon, and since this clearly doesn't happen all the time with all nuclei, I
see no reason why it should be happening with nuclei capable of entering
meta-stable states. That is doesn't happen all the time is obvious, because if
it did, the Universe would be so hot, it would only exist as plasma at best, and
we consist of stable condensed matter, not a hot plasma. IOW we wouldn't be
here.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-20 Thread francis
OK - this may be even a little further out of the box than my norm but have
often wondered how the Puthoff atomic model of a balanced ground state orbit
takes radioactivity into account. 

If the ZPE falls short of pushing the orbit up to a stable radius such that
it fluctuates between different stable states does this model radioactive
decay in the atom? Could we instead be seeing a relativistic mechanism that
relieves this ZPE imbalance (preventing decay) and letting the atom remain
stable at the lower radius? Could the different methods Jones and others
have proposed exploit changes in vacuum suppression to provide an
opportunity for unstable atoms to transfer this excess away and remain
stable? My point being that energy should be just as available through
preventing or at least delaying decay as opposed to allowing it, even if,
said mechanism is only available under exotic conditions.

Fran

 

 

Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

mixent
Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:55:54 -0700

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:36:15 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
This creates a local energy
deficit - in which an unstable nucleus, like Te-125 or Zr-96 become far
more
susceptible to decay, and can effectively 'regauge' the depleted local
field, while leaving some (but comparatively little) remnant radioactivity.

 
If the energy from the ZPE is being replenished by Te125m, decaying to Te125
(stable), then you need some Te125m to start off with. However this isotope
has
a half life of only 57 days, so there isn't any in nature.
 
Regards,
 
Robin van Spaandonk
 
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
 

 



RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-20 Thread Jones Beene
Robin,
 
*  If the energy from the ZPE is being replenished by Te125m, decaying to
Te125 (stable), then you need some Te125m to start off with. However this
isotope has a half life of only 57 days, so there isn't any in nature.
 

 

True but the point (not explained well) is that there is lots of Te125 -
over 7% in nature. IOW one kg of tellurium has a lot of energy content, even
if we limit it to the 125 isotope - consistent with the results claimed.

 

In fact, going into the m state or metastable isomer may be more common
than anyone thinks, and may happen with other isotopes besides this one. How
so?

 

Well, the 57 day half-life could be extreme. and in fact - the extremely
long half-life is the only reason that this particular one stands out, and
is known to us - when in fact IT (as an energy dumping mechanism) could be
far more common in neutron heavy elements than realized when they are
under stress. There are only a few candidate elements anyway - and they are
rare, so this lack of understanding about the IT mechanism - would not be
unexpected. It was not even taught in University until relatively recently.

 

How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,
and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a
'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few papers
to base an informed opinion.

 

The instability needed to deform any nucleus and create the isomer - could
be related to the ZPF deficit itself. or else come from the close approach
of pycno, or from relativistic effects as Fran suggests.

 

Obviously most of this kind of detail would need to come from experiment,
and the focus is shifting to that.

 

If this analysis is correct, it is limited to the few elements in nature
that can have deformed nuclei and that could be the crux of the Rossi
discovery - that he has stumbled on the critical mass level of one of the
most active IT element in nature, if not the most active. If so - Rossi
has no clue.

 

Jones

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-20 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:10:33 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,
and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a
'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few papers
to base an informed opinion.

If so, it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, so it's not
very likely IMO.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



RE: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-20 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com 

How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,
and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a
'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few
papers
to base an informed opinion.

RvS - If so, it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, so
it's not
very likely IMO.


Robin - 

No, no. Nuclear fission or fusion do not violate CoE for the simple reason
that mass is converted to energy. This is no different.

Induced gamma emission (IGE) or internal conversion (IT) are both solid
fact, not hypothetical. Mass is being converted to energy as in fission and
fusion. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_gamma_emission

The hypothetical part of it - especially as it might relate to the E-Cat via
the ZPED theory is that the gamma emission can be stimulated by a deficit
in the zero point field, and that some (or most) of the induced emission
couples directly to the depleted field... and that isotope redistribution
reveals the ultimate mass deficit. 

That is not too big a stretch IMO. It does not violate CoE.

The few elements subject to so-called isomer energy are no different in
metastability than are the fission candidates Th, U or Pu - except the
excess mass identity is less clear; this is because the beginning and
ending element can be the same but not necessarily the isotope balance. I
have tried to find any study which connects IGE to isotope distribution
shifts, but if there are any - then they are classified.

Isomer energy itself is a newer field that was born out of top secret
military devices like the hafnium or tantalum (gamma) lasers, and especially
the UAV program. What the nature of the loss mass involved consists of, is
nebulous: Gluons? Pions? who knows? IOW - it is too early to say what kind
of mass is being converted, so one must simply consider this to be a
subset of IGE for now. (or else dismiss it as unproved).

For any CoE violation, one would need to show that no mass is being
converted, which is next to impossible with an element like tellurium that
has no many isotopes and isomers including the metastable Te-123, which it
is a most excellent candidate for any kind of isotope redistribution in the
conversion process.

If no mass is lost, then of course you are correct; but suffice it to say
that all of this hypothesis is on a fairly firm foundation due to IGE and
the undeniable billions that have gone into it from the USAF under the
blanket of the UAV programs. 

Best estimate is $12 billion since 2002 into UAV of which a quarter or more
of that figure has gone into isomer energy or IGE. That is new information I
got today from a reliable source, but it needs to be checked out. 

This kind of RD focused on IGE/IT/IE etc could explain why there is such a
high level of official indifference at DoD to the E-Cat Rossi, which any
fool can see has enormous military significance. They are probably already
way ahead - and could have their own version of the E-Cat in an unmanned
drone, with an enormous range ready to fly if not in the air now. 

It would not surprise me if the USAF borrowed some of the technology
directly from Rossi a few years ago, come to think of it. The UAV program is
not just top priority. It is the crème-de-la-crème and certainly would be
expected to bring out all the spooks.

Jones




Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-20 Thread francis
Robin,

Any of the non nuclear or hybrid theories like Jones', Mills', Rossi or
Haisch - Moddel also violate the first law because the first law assumes ZPE
cannot be exploited. What Puthoff refers to as vacuum engineering or
suppression provides a loophole to this assumption upon which a Heisenberg
trap could be based. Isn't Mills concept of ashless chemistry also in
violation?

Regards

Fran

 


On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:15 Robin wrote

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:10:33 -0700:

Hi,

[snip]

How would the nucleus deform into the active isomer is the real question,

and/or can the deformation be itself be exothermic so that there is a

'double exotherm' all caused by the same stimulus ? There are too few
papers

to base an informed opinion.

 

If so, it would be a violation of the first law of thermodynamics, so it's
not

very likely IMO.

 

Regards,

 

Robin van Spaandonk

 

 



[Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-19 Thread Jones Beene
This concept has a new kind of chain reaction at the heart of a
complicated theory known as ZPED - zero point enhanced decay. Several
related old posts have been revised and included here for convenience.

Many observers have become increasingly open to the suggestion that what
Andrea Rossi has discovered, serendipitously and possibly unknown to
himself, can be characterized as a critical mass. of something operating
for large non-chemical gain, with mild radioactivity. Obviously, the
'something' is not directly related to nuclear fission, since neutrons are
absent. 

The most puzzling detail is the lack of sufficient radioactivity to account
for the excess heat. However, energy from nuclear decay or isomeric
transition (IT) can be involved at a secondary level, if most of it can be
coupled to an exchange mechanism with the zero point field. This overall
modality is related to a physical mass of reactants, but it could easily be
leaning towards having additional intangible considerations - which casts
everything into a different light. 

Rather than change the well-known phrase 'critical mass' to the more
precise: 'critical accumulation' (in order to accommodate intangible
considerations) it seems prudent merely to acknowledge that this process is
not directly connected to standard uranium fission, except metaphorically;
but it does demand threshold levels of at least one variable and possibly
several.

The important behavior of the underlying system becomes emergent - in the
way Ball describes in Critical Mass - How one thing leads to another, which
is online at Google Books. This does not delve deeply enough into quantum
mechanics to be helpful in the precise pursuit (explaining Andrea Rossi's
E-Cat discovery). However, the insight on emergent systems is helpful for
those who do not appreciate how a large jump in gain can arrive in such a
surprising way. The irony here is that QM and critical mass are antithetical
on one level of understanding - the small juxtaposed to the large.

One intangible consideration in the operation of any quantum mechanical
process is that 'probability' itself, in the sense of 'correlation fields,'
is responsive to accumulation - and/or to 'trigger' levels (leading to
emergent behavior) in systems which depend on a flux of
neutrons-substitutes, which will be called a vector. A moderately high
stable temperature is one such trigger or vector, which operates to maximize
stress within nanocavities.

'Probability' is also found at the underlying level of 'critical mass' via
neutron interaction (fission chain reaction), but in this new form it is
related to the zero point field in two steps. There is a secondary,
accelerated nuclear decay (an isomeric conversion or a weak force reaction)
which can seem at first to be primary, without looking at all the clues. 

This process is mediated by a dense form of hydrogen known as 'pycno'. This
hypothesis is the merger of QM, cavity QED, and Casimir mechanics with
mainstream nuclear reactions, and it will lead to a theory called ZPED, or
zero point enhanced decay. The ultimate energy source is the atomic nucleus.
Let's make that clear, even though the way it arrives is not straightforward
and involves quantum mechanics, time shifting, and two distinct stages. Here
are specific details:

There is an unusual subset of heavy elements - four elements in the periodic
table which are heavier (in a.m.u.) than the next element above them in the
table. For instance, element 92 is heavier than element 93. There appears to
be only four such elements in this category.

As you might imagine (even not knowing the identity of the four) this
characteristic could be strongly indicative of nuclear instability. The
first three are quite well-known as the elements involved in nuclear
fission: thorium, uranium and plutonium. 

The 'nuclear fission' common denominator of these elements is a too-heavy
atomic mass, comparatively, and this property might indicate that the fourth
element in this grouping is heavy enough to have its decay rate altered.
However, this lesser known element is not known to undergo fission via
neutron capture, as are the three above - and it does not participate in a
chain reaction. At least not a chain reaction which is vectored by neutrons.
It is also the lightest of the four. It is also a singularity in having the
highest spread of atomic weight between its lowest and highest stable
isotope of any element. 

Does that make it special in any way for a new kind of nuclear reaction, not
involving neutrons as the active modality, but possibly involving another
vector such as pycno, f/H or IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) or other
names which were once more closely identified with the Mills' hydrino?

This fourth element is tellurium - element 52. It is best known in the
compound bismuth-telluride, used in thermoelectrics, or cadmium telluride in
photovoltaics. It is photoactive and tends to form into 2D layers in a way
that seems to mirror 

Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-19 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:36:15 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Those who
favor a nuclear-only pathway might look to the P-e-P reaction as the
aftermath. Some deuterium is expected in the ash.

Just a side note here - I think the P-e-P reaction energy is all carried away by
the neutrino (no free particles as in positron decay).

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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Re: [Vo]:The ZPED theory of quasi-nuclear gain (long post)

2011-03-19 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:36:15 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
This creates a local energy
deficit - in which an unstable nucleus, like Te-125 or Zr-96 become far more
susceptible to decay, and can effectively 'regauge' the depleted local
field, while leaving some (but comparatively little) remnant radioactivity. 

If the energy from the ZPE is being replenished by Te125m, decaying to Te125
(stable), then you need some Te125m to start off with. However this isotope has
a half life of only 57 days, so there isn't any in nature.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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