RE: RE: [Vo]:Thermal diode
Yes the similarity is striking, in many ways ... -Original Message- From: Angela Kemmler This reminds me Andrea Rossis claim, that he invented a thermoelectrical element with 20% efficacy. Saw it here: http://esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Focardi-Rossi_Energy-Catalyzer#Leonardo_Technologies_Inc.
Re: RE: [Vo]:Thermal diode
This reminds me Andrea Rossis claim, that he invented a thermoelectrical element with 20% efficacy. Saw it here: http://esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Focardi-Rossi_Energy-Catalyzer#Leonardo_Technologies_Inc. -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone
RE: [Vo]:Thermal diode
If we go back to Akira's original sketch: http://i.imgur.com/llVoU.png where the external heater is in contact with supported Ni nanopowder, and the device operates as a thermal diode, then we have solved two huge conceptual problems: the first being - why do we need applied heat input at all, after startup? A thermal (or electrothermal diode) as described in the Hagelstein paper would effectively push heat in one direction - and if we assume that it is pushing heat towards an axial tube, with water coolant, then we need to trigger the reaction from the outside on a continuous basis at a precise temperature, or else it can quench unexpectedly. This all fits nicely together, and the so-called 'cartridge heater' is either auxiliary, and 'off' except at startup... or else it is NOT a cartridge heated at all, BUT instead is the thermocouple which tells the PLC how much power to send to the band heater. In fact, the axial leads seen, and the long (suspected) length inside the left arm of the arrangement - favors this interpretation - that the item is a thermocouple instead of an auxiliary heater, since thermocouples are narrower and longer in geometry, than are cartridge heaters. Jones -Original Message- From: Jones Beene Subject: Thermal diode OK - Not sure exactly how (or if) - this paper can be related to the Rossi device, which was why I sent it alone - but there is a vague notion that what Hagelstein has labeled "weakly n-type bulk layer" could be the Rossi "supported nickel nanopowder" filled with spillover H - to make it semiconductive, and that the emitter gets much hotter than it should at the expense of ZPE. Thus, if there is a connection to Rossi, then I was wrong about PnP, and the E-Cat may be of the NpN configuration ... assuming that these two, Peter Hagelstein and Yan Kucherov are in the same ballpark with us on the cross-connection... However, my guess is that neither of them have even considered that this paper could relate to Rossi in any possible way; but if you want to write PH and ask if there could be a connection - and how it would operate - then be my guest... I also doubt that he is in the Cavity-QED/ZPE camp, so he would probably reject the implications out of hand Jones -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf Is there such a beast as an "electrothermal diode"? > Whoa! If thermal diodes exist, wouldn't the little buggers violate the laws of thermodynamics? Seems to me it would be Kinda like finding a convenient Maxwell Demon mechanism. ... or a Rossi mechanism Wouldn't thermal diodes essentially allow us to "pump" heat into a heat box where the stored thermal energy could subsequently be extracted to heat steam, turn turbines. :) OTOH, how would this differ from your basic mill of the run solar collector? ... does not need the sun? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks <>
RE: [Vo]:Thermal diode
OK - Not sure exactly how (or if) - this paper can be related to the Rossi device, which was why I sent it alone - but there is a vague notion that what Hagelstein has labeled "weakly n-type bulk layer" could be the Rossi "supported nickel nanopowder" filled with spillover H - to make it semiconductive, and that the emitter gets much hotter than it should at the expense of ZPE. Thus, if there is a connection to Rossi, then I was wrong about PnP, and the E-Cat may be of the NpN configuration ... assuming that these two, Peter Hagelstein and Yan Kucherov are in the same ballpark with us on the cross-connection... However, my guess is that neither of them have even considered that this paper could relate to Rossi in any possible way; but if you want to write PH and ask if there could be a connection - and how it would operate - then be my guest... I also doubt that he is in the Cavity-QED/ZPE camp, so he would probably reject the implications out of hand Jones -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf Is there such a beast as an "electrothermal diode"? > Whoa! If thermal diodes exist, wouldn't the little buggers violate the laws of thermodynamics? Seems to me it would be Kinda like finding a convenient Maxwell Demon mechanism. ... or a Rossi mechanism Wouldn't thermal diodes essentially allow us to "pump" heat into a heat box where the stored thermal energy could subsequently be extracted to heat steam, turn turbines. :) OTOH, how would this differ from your basic mill of the run solar collector? ... does not need the sun? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:Thermal diode
Jones http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf Is there such a beast as an "electrothermal diode"? Woah! If thermal diodes exist, wouldn't the little buggers violate the laws of thermodynamics? Seems to me it would be Kinda like finding a convenient Maxewll Demon mechanism. Wouldn't thermal diodes essentially allow us to "pump" heat into a heat box where the stored thermal energy could subsequently be extracted to heat steam, turn turbines. OTOH, how would this differ from your basic mill of the run solar collector? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:Thermal diode
http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf Is there such a beast as an "electrothermal diode"? This paper pops up: T. Veijola and M. Valtonen, "Combined electrical and thermal circuit simulation using APLAC, Part B: Electrothermal diode and transistor," Tech. Rep. CT-27, HUT, Circuit Theory Laboratory, Espoo, 1996. <>
