Why hasn't anybody tested Kr 81 or 85 in activated Raney Nickel powder to see
if the decay rate changes.This is the simplest experiment; yet it is the
most irrefutable as well as the most meaningful. If there are temporal
effects, then this would be the best starting point for figuring out everything
else in-terms-of.
ScottWm. Scott Smith
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:06:24 -0500e
From: francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: sarfattisciencesemin...@yahoogroups.com
CC: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Starfleet Command] Nick Herbert DS agree that there is a
basic flaw in Haisch-Moddel Patent ZPF Vacuum Energy Generator.
I agree with Bernard’s Thought experiment but Nick seems to be hung up on
just the Casimir force being exploitable – Nick is overlooking the importance
of the gas atoms themselves. Garret Moddel published a paper ,Assessment of
proposed electromagnetic quantum vacuum energy extraction methods,
http://ecee.colorado.edu/ 7Emoddel/QEL/Papers/Moddel_VacExtracV1.pdf Which
casts doubt on 2 of the 3 classes of propo
sed methods to extract energy but finds the migration of monatomic gas inside
aPermanent Casimir field, the 3rd class, a workable solution. I view these
cavities as a tapestry of different energy densities confined together at the
nano scale. You have Gas atoms inside these cavities constantly driven into
random motion by HUP – these atoms translate to different quiescent energy
densities established by the local Casimir geometry. The heat anomalies of
Arata, Mills and other researchers indicate this is already enough to produce
an effect even without the circulation proposed by Haisch and Moddel.The
circulation was first proposed by William Lyne for an Atomic Furnace and
probably would have helped if it ha
d been adopted by Moller and Naudin in the MAHG device – Note H-M are
proposing Casimir Lamb Pinch while Lyne and Moller an oscillation between bond
states of gas atoms with change in energy density which are wholly different
scales but both exploit the change in Casimir geometry relative to the random
motion of gas atoms. I think that even if the Casimir Lamb Pinch fails to
achieve the efficiency to exploit the process their prototype is still better
conceived to exploit the method suggested by Lyne and Moller – The gas is
circulated between Casimir and Non Casimir cells forcing a maximum
translation/space, spreads out the reaction to avoid melt down and the need to
regenerate like the Rayney Nickel of Rowan Confirmation fame – It also allows
for better reactant controls to mix with inert gas, vary circulation speed and
greater surface area to couple the heat away.
On Mar 3, 2010, at 4:15 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote: So, Nick where
specifically do you disagree with Bernie's remarkbelow? What sentences
he wrote do you think are wrong? Best way tosettle this is with the
math. I am not sure if Nick's spin exampleis a good analogy with what
Haisch Moddel propose. I thinkBernie's point is that the work needed
to overcome the ZPF energybarrier in the two different vacuum phases
inside and outside thecavity is for the center of mass of the atom. In
contrast theenergy gain they are talking about is in the internal
electron
; orbital shift and that the two degrees of freedom are essentially
decoupled. In order for their scheme to work however, you and Davidmake a
valid point that the alleged internal orbital zpf energyshift gain must
be larger than the work done on the CM degree offreedom it getting the
atoms back out of the cavity in theircirculating heat exchange! r sort
of design. Off hand, I see nofundamental reason for assuming that the CM
work and the orbitalelectron shift must add to zero always. But I have
not thought verydeeply about this.Begin forwarded message:
From: nick herbert qua...@... Date: March 3, 2010 12:24:05 PM PST
To: JACK SARFATTI sarfa...@... Cc: Sarfatti_Physics_Seminars
sarfatti_physics_semin...@yahoogroups.com,
sarfattisciencesemin...@yahoogroups. com
sarfattisciencesemin...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Starfleet Command] Re:
Basic Flaw in Haisch-ModdellPatent ZPF Vacuum Energy Generator?
; Reply-To: sarfattisciencesemin...@yahoogroups.comDavid S is spot
on. A nice concise refutation of the Haisch- Moddell ZPF Proposal.
One can build a simpler version of HM that has the same flaw.
Send a properly spin oriented beam of excited atoms into a uniform
magnetic field such that the Zeeman splitting puts the atoms in a slightly
lower energy state. Mechanism is thesame. So is the flaw. Any energy you
get from ! increased photon energy due to Zeeman splitting you will lose by
the work done extracting the atoms from the magnetic field. Nick
HerbertOn Mar 2, 2010, at 11:09 AM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:
Force ~ negative spatial gradient of the potential energy On Mar 2,
2010, at 10:52