Re: [Vo]:Windy Iowa

2010-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to  OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:32:33
-0600:
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-study-iowa-wind-production-growing-030310,0,5316702.story
http://tinyurl.com/ycc6hu

Quote:

The study found that wind energy produces 3,670 megawatts of electricity in the
state. If that power were used solely within Iowa, it would be enough to power
940,000 homes, or about three-quarters of the state's homes. 

...so it doesn't provide power for 940,000 homes, because some of them are not
in Iowa??? ;)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:Windy Iowa

2010-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell

It took me a while to parse this sentence:

The study found that wind energy produces 3,670 megawatts of 
electricity in the

state. If that power were used solely within Iowa, it would be enough to power
940,000 homes, or about three-quarters of the state's homes. 


In other words, they ship some of the electricity out of state. A 
wind turbine close to the border of the state is likely to send the 
power elsewhere. The turbines produce enough electricity to supply 
75% of residential buildings (or maybe single family houses?) in 
Iowa, but it is not all used in Iowa.


75% of residential buildings sounds too high to me.

For the U.S. as a whole, the Residential and Commercial sector uses 
19.3 out the total 98.5 quads of U.S. energy (2000 data). Out of 12.3 
quads of total Distributed electricity, Residential and Commercial 
consume 7.9 quads (64%). Industry consumes 18.1 and Transportation 
only 0.02 quads. (Industry makes a lot of its own electricity 
nowadays, so it is not Distributed electricity.) I doubt wind 
turbines in Iowa that produce only 20% of their electricity can 
supply 75% of houses.


See the last page of:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NRELenergyover.pdf

This is a good reality-check, or grand overview.

Somewhere at www.renewableenergyworld.com there is an article saying 
that NREL or the DoE recently re-evaluated U.S. land-based wind 
resources and came up with a much higher number than the previous 
estimate, because towers are so much higher than they were a decade 
ago. I can't find the article.


They have so much stuff at that web site and in their periodic 
bulletins! This is how a growing industry looks. Cold fusion will not 
have fully succeeded until you see sites like this discussing actual 
ongoing commercial applications for it. I sometimes doubt we will 
ever see that, given the immense political opposition to the research.


- Jed



[Vo]:Windy Iowa

2010-03-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-study-iowa-wind-production-growing-030310,0,5316702.story
http://tinyurl.com/ycc6hu

Excerpt:

DES MOINES, Iowa - A new study shows wind energy production in Iowa is
continuing to grow and now accounts for up to 20 percent of the
state's electricity.

Steve
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Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
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