Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
Latest R. Mills Test: https://i.imgur.com/oTvxD5Q.gif On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:49 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 15:22:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture This is a special sort of radioactive decay mode when there is an large imbalance of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. In this case, a gamma from a secondary positron decay will be present. In the case of electron-capture there is no positron created, and hence there can't be an gammas from positron decay. However where both electron capture and beta+ decay are possible, sometimes the one and sometimes the other will occur. The beta+ (positron) decay will then obviously result in production of a pair of gammas when the positron annihilates an electron. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:electron orbital speed
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070323171548.htm I Found a sort of yardstick I've been needing gold electrons whip around atom at roughly .5C [snip] In an atom, where electrons race around the nucleus like buzzing bees, the velocity of an electron doesn't get anywhere near the speed of light until the atomic nucleus fills up with lots of positively charged protons - the negatively charged electrons have to move faster to keep from being pulled into the highly positive nucleus. This occurs in the transition metals of the periodic table of elements, metals ranging from tantalum and tungsten to platinum and gold. In a gold atom, with 79 protons in the nucleus, the 79 electrons whip around the nucleus at about half the speed of light.[/snip]
Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
The assumption that underlies this electron penetrating into the nucleus business is that the electron will cause a nuclear reaction when it penetrates the nucleus. I don't remember seeing any cross sections of this sort of reaction. There have been many atom smasher studies that explore the nature of quarks were high energy electrons are used a probes. These electrons away exit the nucleus at some angle without effecting the nucleus. R Mills technology is based on this assumption. So show me a reaction channel cross section were electron penetration of the nucleus can cause nuclear reactions. I have seen alpha, neutron, gamma, photon. but never electron reaction cross sections. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070323171548.htm I Found a sort of yardstick I’ve been needing…. gold electrons whip around atom at roughly .5C [snip] In an atom, where electrons race around the nucleus like buzzing bees, the velocity of an electron doesn't get anywhere near the speed of light until the atomic nucleus fills up with lots of positively charged protons - the negatively charged electrons have to move faster to keep from being pulled into the highly positive nucleus. This occurs in the transition metals of the periodic table of elements, metals ranging from tantalum and tungsten to platinum and gold. In a gold atom, with 79 protons in the nucleus, the 79 electrons whip around the nucleus at about half the speed of light.[/snip]
Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture This is a special sort of radioactive decay mode when there is an large imbalance of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. In this case, a gamma from a secondary positron decay will be present. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The assumption that underlies this electron penetrating into the nucleus business is that the electron will cause a nuclear reaction when it penetrates the nucleus. I don't remember seeing any cross sections of this sort of reaction. There have been many atom smasher studies that explore the nature of quarks were high energy electrons are used a probes. These electrons away exit the nucleus at some angle without effecting the nucleus. R Mills technology is based on this assumption. So show me a reaction channel cross section were electron penetration of the nucleus can cause nuclear reactions. I have seen alpha, neutron, gamma, photon. but never electron reaction cross sections. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070323171548.htm I Found a sort of yardstick I’ve been needing…. gold electrons whip around atom at roughly .5C [snip] In an atom, where electrons race around the nucleus like buzzing bees, the velocity of an electron doesn't get anywhere near the speed of light until the atomic nucleus fills up with lots of positively charged protons - the negatively charged electrons have to move faster to keep from being pulled into the highly positive nucleus. This occurs in the transition metals of the periodic table of elements, metals ranging from tantalum and tungsten to platinum and gold. In a gold atom, with 79 protons in the nucleus, the 79 electrons whip around the nucleus at about half the speed of light.[/snip]
Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
Are you confident that the electron motion can be so well defined? A point charge moving around a nucleus at an accurately determined speed and location has problems according to how I understand the quantum theory. Also, radiation from an accelerating point charge would be extremely difficult if not impossible to balance out. An evenly distributed surface of moving charge handles the far field radiation pattern and the near field magnetic field pattern nicely. Dave -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, May 28, 2014 1:56 pm Subject: [Vo]:electron orbital speed http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070323171548.htm I Found a sort of yardstick I’ve been needing…. gold electrons whip around atom at roughly .5C [snip] In an atom, where electrons race around the nucleus like buzzing bees, the velocity of an electron doesn't get anywhere near the speed of light until the atomic nucleus fills up with lots of positively charged protons - the negatively charged electrons have to move faster to keep from being pulled into the highly positive nucleus. This occurs in the transition metals of the periodic table of elements, metals ranging from tantalum and tungsten to platinum and gold. In a gold atom, with 79 protons in the nucleus, the 79 electrons whip around the nucleus at about half the speed of light.[/snip]
Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 14:57:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] The assumption that underlies this electron penetrating into the nucleus business is that the electron will cause a nuclear reaction when it penetrates the nucleus. I don't remember seeing any cross sections of this sort of reaction. There have been many atom smasher studies that explore the nature of quarks were high energy electrons are used a probes. These electrons away exit the nucleus at some angle without effecting the nucleus. R Mills technology is based on this assumption. Where did you get this nonsense? Mills technology has nothing to do with nuclei, or electrons penetrating them. It has nothing to do with electron-capture, which is what you appear to be implying. So show me a reaction channel cross section were electron penetration of the nucleus can cause nuclear reactions. See any electron-capture reaction. I have seen alpha, neutron, gamma, photon. but never electron reaction cross sections. Some of the positron decay reactions also have an electron capture branch. In rare cases, there is not enough energy to create a positron, and electron-capture is the only form of decay. e.g. 59Ni + e- - 59Co. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:electron orbital speed
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 28 May 2014 15:22:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] More http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture This is a special sort of radioactive decay mode when there is an large imbalance of protons and neutrons in the nucleus. In this case, a gamma from a secondary positron decay will be present. In the case of electron-capture there is no positron created, and hence there can't be an gammas from positron decay. However where both electron capture and beta+ decay are possible, sometimes the one and sometimes the other will occur. The beta+ (positron) decay will then obviously result in production of a pair of gammas when the positron annihilates an electron. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
