Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-08 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
You were right, it was hard, very hard. In fact we needed zillions of
1 micron transistors to be able to make smaller ones.



On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 another malthusianst reasoning that will be proved false once again...
 I was convinced in 85 that it will hard to have transistor below 1µm... I
 laugh today of my lack of imagination.

 2012/4/6 fznidar...@aol.com


 http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030





Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-07 Thread James Bowery
Exponentials are unsustainable in a limited environment such as Earth's
biosphere -- that's a given.  The real problem is that, unlike other social
organizations of animals, eusocial organization tends to be ecologically
dominant combined with the fact that humans are uniquely capable of
expanding their ecological range through technology.

It doesn't matter what energy technologies we have at our disposal if we
don't remove eusocial human organization -- civilization -- from the
biosphere.  Failure to remove civilization from the biosphere will destroy
the biosphere.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:


 http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030


[Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030

Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread Alain Sepeda
another malthusianst reasoning that will be proved false once again...
I was convinced in 85 that it will hard to have transistor below 1µm... I
laugh today of my lack of imagination.

2012/4/6 fznidar...@aol.com


 http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030


Re: [Vo]:more bad news

2012-04-06 Thread Jouni Valkonen


Peak oil will be severe problem and it may cause some problems if cold fusion 
is not going to come into rescue. It is no secret that current transportation 
systems are too heavily based on oil and there are no viable alternatives for 
oil.

On resource consumption, agriculture consumes more than 95 % of non-renewable 
resources  (i.e. top soil) and it could be fully replaced by vertical farming. 
Therefore any malthusian scenarios are false because they do not consider that 
what vertical farming has to offer. Vertical urban farming would also offset 
somewhat the dependency on oil, because agriculture consumes 20 percent on oil 
and in addition to that there is food transportation costs, that are eliminated 
if food is produced mostly on local vertical farms.

However what is a problem is that the economic structure is based more and more 
on supply of debt rather than increasing demand on the market. This may cause 
severe economic crisis in near future. Economic policy should be aimed on 
increasing demand, if we want to ensure the growth of purchasing power, that 
people has enough money to buy vertically cultivated food and have purchasing 
power to buy goods that are produced on recycled materials.

If we optimise the purchasing power of consumers, we effectively have the Star 
Trek economy. It is good to read Dan Pink's book Drive, then it will make very 
much of sense how much more effective Star Trek economy is where everyone has 
plenty, but not too much, indifferently on what they do. 

   —Jouni

Dan Pink on the surprising science of motivation
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation.html

On 6 Apr 2012, at 22:14, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 another malthusianst reasoning that will be proved false once again...
 I was convinced in 85 that it will hard to have transistor below 1µm... I 
 laugh today of my lack of imagination.
 
 2012/4/6 fznidar...@aol.com
 http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-04/new-research-tracks-40-year-old-prediction-world-economy-will-collapse-2030