RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

2019-10-02 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Robin—



I appreciate the usefulness of approximations.   Natural approximations in 
genetics allows me to continue as a rational being at times.



However, subtle influences on my stable, approximately closed systems are 
limiting that condition noted above.



I am afraid the neutrinos and other subtle influences are changing my almost 
closed systems such that  their resonance coupling

Is changing MY total entropy to an undesirable (from my standpoint) level and 
at too fast a rate.



Nevertheless, warm regards.



Bob Cook




From: mix...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 5:01:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into 
electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Tue, 1 Oct 2019 12:37:50
+:
Hi,
[snip]
>In this regard I am not able to identify aay closed systems—none seem to exist 
>in the known universe.  They are only a virtual construct like quarks IMHO.
[snip]
There may not be any truly closed systems, but there are plenty of systems that
are closed enough to make treating them as closed give answers that are accurate
enough to work with. As an engineer, I'm sure you appreciate this. ;)

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

2019-10-01 Thread mixent 
In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Tue, 1 Oct 2019 12:37:50
+:
Hi,
[snip]
>In this regard I am not able to identify aay closed systems—none seem to exist 
>in the known universe.  They are only a virtual construct like quarks IMHO.
[snip]
There may not be any truly closed systems, but there are plenty of systems that
are closed enough to make treating them as closed give answers that are accurate
enough to work with. As an engineer, I'm sure you appreciate this. ;)

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

2019-10-01 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Jones—

You may be correct regarding not being limited by” thermodynamic restraints.”

However, I consider that the 2nd Law still holds in that closed systems will 
change their potential energy to kinetic energy, if
perturbed by an outside input of energy and/or not stable themselves.

In this regard I am not able to identify aay closed systems—none seem to exist 
in the known universe.  They are only a virtual construct like quarks IMHO.

Bob Cook

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From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 2:12:16 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Cc: Brian Ahern 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into 
electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

Jones---

As you might suspect, I consider that spin coupling is indeed dependent upon 
resonances and local magnetic fields.

I trust that Brian is aware of the apparent relationof the subject technology  
to the cooling accomplished by the Manelas device.

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 1:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into 
electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com


  *   The question is: What is the differential temperature needed to sap off 
the enthalpy in the lattice in significant quantity to be practical.

Well Bob – it is arguable that we are not limited by thermodynamic restraints 
with paramagnons, at least not in the same way that thermoelectric materials 
are. Coupling is due to spin, in addition to or in place of  thermal vibration. 
This makes resonance a big issue.

There is a good possibility that very low delta-t can be practical. Such is 
arguably the case with the device of Arthur Manelas and that is why I mentioned 
it. Manganese is particularly interesting in this regard when alloyed or in a 
Heusler compound.

By physical appearances, Mn should be ferromagnetic (it has 5 unpaired 
electrons as does iron)  but it is paramagnetic  when pure -yet it can be 
combined  into alloys which are more strongly ferromagnetic than pure metals – 
i.e. nickel for instance.

There is even a fair chance that the delta-T of a system with spin coupling can 
be zero initially in the sense that ambient heat is being converted into 
electrical current in the case of battery interaction with transformer back 
EMF.  Finally, there is even a possibility that the reason some nickel 
electrodes work better than other in LENR experiments is related to slight 
manganese content, even inadvertent. Manganese doping of nickel increases the 
magnetization disproportionately -  but for larger concentrations of there is a 
decrease. This can be modulated by hydrogen adsorption.

If the analysis of Mizuno’s most active nickel electrode turns up even a half 
percent of Mn, then get back to me – we have found a culprit.

RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

2019-09-30 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Jones---

As you might suspect, I consider that spin coupling is indeed dependent upon 
resonances and local magnetic fields.

I trust that Brian is aware of the apparent relationof the subject technology  
to the cooling accomplished by the Manelas device.

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 1:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into 
electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com


  *   The question is: What is the differential temperature needed to sap off 
the enthalpy in the lattice in significant quantity to be practical.

Well Bob – it is arguable that we are not limited by thermodynamic restraints 
with paramagnons, at least not in the same way that thermoelectric materials 
are. Coupling is due to spin, in addition to or in place of  thermal vibration. 
This makes resonance a big issue.

There is a good possibility that very low delta-t can be practical. Such is 
arguably the case with the device of Arthur Manelas and that is why I mentioned 
it. Manganese is particularly interesting in this regard when alloyed or in a 
Heusler compound.

By physical appearances, Mn should be ferromagnetic (it has 5 unpaired 
electrons as does iron)  but it is paramagnetic  when pure -yet it can be 
combined  into alloys which are more strongly ferromagnetic than pure metals – 
i.e. nickel for instance.

There is even a fair chance that the delta-T of a system with spin coupling can 
be zero initially in the sense that ambient heat is being converted into 
electrical current in the case of battery interaction with transformer back 
EMF.  Finally, there is even a possibility that the reason some nickel 
electrodes work better than other in LENR experiments is related to slight 
manganese content, even inadvertent. Manganese doping of nickel increases the 
magnetization disproportionately -  but for larger concentrations of there is a 
decrease. This can be modulated by hydrogen adsorption.

If the analysis of Mizuno’s most active nickel electrode turns up even a half 
percent of Mn, then get back to me – we have found a culprit.

RE: [Vo]:"Paramagnons" - new way to convert heat into electricalenergy--what is the physics of the Bose magnons--

2019-09-30 Thread JonesBeene 
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com
  
➢ The question is: What is the differential temperature needed to sap off the 
enthalpy in the lattice in significant quantity to be practical.

Well Bob – it is arguable that we are not limited by thermodynamic restraints 
with paramagnons, at least not in the same way that thermoelectric materials 
are. Coupling is due to spin, in addition to or in place of  thermal vibration. 
This makes resonance a big issue.

There is a good possibility that very low delta-t can be practical. Such is 
arguably the case with the device of Arthur Manelas and that is why I mentioned 
it. Manganese is particularly interesting in this regard when alloyed or in a 
Heusler compound. 

By physical appearances, Mn should be ferromagnetic (it has 5 unpaired 
electrons as does iron)  but it is paramagnetic  when pure -yet it can be 
combined  into alloys which are more strongly ferromagnetic than pure metals – 
i.e. nickel for instance.

There is even a fair chance that the delta-T of a system with spin coupling can 
be zero initially in the sense that ambient heat is being converted into 
electrical current in the case of battery interaction with transformer back 
EMF.  Finally, there is even a possibility that the reason some nickel 
electrodes work better than other in LENR experiments is related to slight 
manganese content, even inadvertent. Manganese doping of nickel increases the 
magnetization disproportionately -  but for larger concentrations of there is a 
decrease. This can be modulated by hydrogen adsorption.

If the analysis of Mizuno’s most active nickel electrode turns up even a half 
percent of Mn, then get back to me – we have found a culprit.