Re: [Vo]:EPRI study

2018-03-20 Thread Brian Ahern
Great find Bob!  I will study it closely



From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 12:52 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:EPRI study


Brian—



This linkhttps://aca.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4936290

concerning spin crossover in certain Fe substances may help explain the cooling 
associated with the Manelas SrFeO.  It describes how coherent systems can swap 
spin during a phase change or some other type of change of their energy state.



Note that both cooling and heating are addressed.



Bob




From: Brian Ahern 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:55:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:EPRI study


I  was excited about pulsing the nanopowders at a range of frequencies seeking 
a resonance, but my supply burned out and the funding ended.

The appearance of the Manelas device showed a resonance around 130kiloHertz 
with interacting pulses around a strontium ferrite billet.

The SrFeOx billet is a soft ferromagnetic material with very high resistivity 
that limits eddy currents.

I noted a cooling of the billet that was continuous for 6 days in 2012. The 
billet was 5 degrees C below ambient. These measurements were rock solid as was 
the 60 watts excess power production.


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR fission


Brian—



Did the EPRI 2012 experiments include resonant stimulation of any kind once a 
low level heating was observed?  I am thinking about dipole and or quadrupole 
electric and /or magnetic field stimulation over a range of frequencies that 
could resonate with the reactants present.



  I particularly consider  resonant magnetic field coupling of nuclear species 
and  Ni lattice electronic orbital spin energy states of the nano Ni particles 
may be important.  A Ni alloy may offer more varied energy states and enhance  
the coupling and exchange of nuclear potential  for increased lattice thermal 
energy associated with the entire nano particle lattice.  (This would be a 
many-body reaction of a QM coherent system IMHO.)



The following link addresses ultra fast reactions in certain solid state 
systems of many particles, including reactions within and among molecules.



https://aca.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4936290



Bob Cook




From: Brian Ahern 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:24:06 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR fission


In My 2012 EPRI on gas loading Nickel nanopowders I always saw continuing 
heating, but at levels below 200 milliwatts.  I did not find any accelerant 
property. My attempts at dielectric discharges was terminated when I burned out 
the power  supply and was introduced to Arthur Manelas



From: Jed Rothwell 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:12 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

JonesBeene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:


FAIL



Apparently this is too an issue which is either not important or too technical 
for you. I looked at the few of these references and none of them mention COP 
wrt thermal feedback.

As I said, that is because the COP is meaningless in cold fusion. However, as I 
also said, a thermal pulse often produces heat after death, with a COP of 
infinity. You can't ask for more enhancement than that!



A lack of comprehension of the value of COP as an intuitive and accurate metric 
in LENR and the silly attempt to change its meaning  is apparently guiding an 
uncharacteristic flood of disinformation…

I do not see what is intuitive or accurate about a parameter that does not even 
exist in many experiments. Input power with electrolysis affects the formation 
of material, but it has nothing to do with the performance of the reaction 
itself. The reaction works with no input power during heat after death or with 
gas loading, so how can the ratio of input to output (the COP) be a critical 
parameter? I suggest you address that question rather than insulting top 
experts in this field such as Fleischmann, Storms and Miles. (They are the ones 
who say this, not me. Or not just me.)

- Jed



RE: [Vo]:EPRI study

2018-03-20 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Brian—

This linkhttps://aca.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4936290
concerning spin crossover in certain Fe substances may help explain the cooling 
associated with the Manelas SrFeO.  It describes how coherent systems can swap 
spin during a phase change or some other type of change of their energy state.

Note that both cooling and heating are addressed.

Bob


From: Brian Ahern 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:55:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:EPRI study


I  was excited about pulsing the nanopowders at a range of frequencies seeking 
a resonance, but my supply burned out and the funding ended.

The appearance of the Manelas device showed a resonance around 130kiloHertz 
with interacting pulses around a strontium ferrite billet.

The SrFeOx billet is a soft ferromagnetic material with very high resistivity 
that limits eddy currents.

I noted a cooling of the billet that was continuous for 6 days in 2012. The 
billet was 5 degrees C below ambient. These measurements were rock solid as was 
the 60 watts excess power production.


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR fission


Brian—



Did the EPRI 2012 experiments include resonant stimulation of any kind once a 
low level heating was observed?  I am thinking about dipole and or quadrupole 
electric and /or magnetic field stimulation over a range of frequencies that 
could resonate with the reactants present.



  I particularly consider  resonant magnetic field coupling of nuclear species 
and  Ni lattice electronic orbital spin energy states of the nano Ni particles 
may be important.  A Ni alloy may offer more varied energy states and enhance  
the coupling and exchange of nuclear potential  for increased lattice thermal 
energy associated with the entire nano particle lattice.  (This would be a 
many-body reaction of a QM coherent system IMHO.)



The following link addresses ultra fast reactions in certain solid state 
systems of many particles, including reactions within and among molecules.



https://aca.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/1.4936290



Bob Cook




From: Brian Ahern 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:24:06 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR fission


In My 2012 EPRI on gas loading Nickel nanopowders I always saw continuing 
heating, but at levels below 200 milliwatts.  I did not find any accelerant 
property. My attempts at dielectric discharges was terminated when I burned out 
the power  supply and was introduced to Arthur Manelas



From: Jed Rothwell 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:12 AM
To: Vortex
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR fission

JonesBeene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:


FAIL



Apparently this is too an issue which is either not important or too technical 
for you. I looked at the few of these references and none of them mention COP 
wrt thermal feedback.

As I said, that is because the COP is meaningless in cold fusion. However, as I 
also said, a thermal pulse often produces heat after death, with a COP of 
infinity. You can't ask for more enhancement than that!



A lack of comprehension of the value of COP as an intuitive and accurate metric 
in LENR and the silly attempt to change its meaning  is apparently guiding an 
uncharacteristic flood of disinformation…

I do not see what is intuitive or accurate about a parameter that does not even 
exist in many experiments. Input power with electrolysis affects the formation 
of material, but it has nothing to do with the performance of the reaction 
itself. The reaction works with no input power during heat after death or with 
gas loading, so how can the ratio of input to output (the COP) be a critical 
parameter? I suggest you address that question rather than insulting top 
experts in this field such as Fleischmann, Storms and Miles. (They are the ones 
who say this, not me. Or not just me.)

- Jed