RE: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?
Is not this the way forward? A successful company, using a small over-unity effect to gain an edge over the competition, but not mentioning OU? Might it be better to 'slug' some OU device so it's not overtly OU but is still better than the rest? Stephen R Lawrence, Cambridge Jed Rothwell wrote: Griggs left the company many years ago. There is no mention in the NASA documents or in any documents published by Hydrodynamics Inc. that the device is sometimes over-unity. They don't want to talk about that. It is more trouble than it's worth. They are friendly people, on the up and up. They are not trying to cover up anything, but they don't want to get involved in disputes with the physics establishment. - Jed /div
RE: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?
Stephen Lawrence wrote: Is not this the way forward? A successful company, using a small over-unity effect to gain an edge over the competition, but not mentioning OU? The fact that it sometimes slightly over unity is no advantage. It reduces the electric bill very slightly, but not enough to detect. It is still more expensive than a gas fired heater per megajoule, but gas-fired heaters cannot be used in the applications the Hydrosonic devices is used for. The customers are unaware of the fact that it is over-unity. Based on my conversations with some of them, I doubt they would care if they knew, or think twice about it. People are remarkably incurious. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Quote from the article: The secret to the HPump's success, according to the inventor, is the use of shock waves to produce the heat, rather than electric heating elements or fossil fuels. But where does the electricity to run the device come from then..? The point of mentioning that now well-known evil, fossil fuels, is to imply that they're actually, finally dispensing with that messy stuff... Which would most likely be false, certainly. -- Which, of course, is not exactly the real point here: moving beyond the use of inconvenient heat sources at the point of application. They should be clear on this distinction. Being NASA, after all. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTTS: Organized; Ad Hoc; Anticipated; Hoped-For: * Critical endorsement only *** Most sites need donations * http://www.unitedboycott.org Join the War On Corporatism * * http://www.unitedboycott.org/mediaboycott.htmMedia Holdings * * http://www.boycottbush.org Boycott Bush (boycott the U.S.A.) * * http://www.saanet.org/alcant Alcan't In India Campaign * *** Military Technology: The Ultimate Prostitution of Science *** GPG fingerprint = 2E7F 2D69 4B0B C8D5 07E3 09C3 5E8D C4B4 461B B771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkm37IUACgkQXo3EtEYbt3GQ/QCcCbzLoDBCILk/bOSjeT+lSCBm 1soAn1XXA/WeRS3LToRy/l0Qg2mxSE0Q =4Z/1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-