RE: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?

2009-03-11 Thread Stephen Lawrence
Is not this the way forward? A successful company, using a small 
over-unity effect to gain an edge over the competition, but not 
mentioning OU? Might it be better to 'slug' some OU device so it's not 
overtly OU but is still better than the rest?


Stephen R Lawrence, Cambridge

Jed Rothwell wrote:

Griggs left the company many years ago.

There is no mention in the NASA documents or in any documents 
published by Hydrodynamics Inc. that the device is sometimes 
over-unity. They don't want to talk about that. It is more trouble 
than it's worth.


They are friendly people, on the up and up. They are not trying to 
cover up anything, but they don't want to get involved in disputes 
with the physics establishment.


- Jed
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RE: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?

2009-03-11 Thread Jed Rothwell

Stephen Lawrence wrote:

Is not this the way forward? A successful company, using a small 
over-unity effect to gain an edge over the competition, but not mentioning OU?


The fact that it sometimes slightly over unity is no advantage. It 
reduces the electric bill very slightly, but not enough to detect. It 
is still more expensive than a gas fired heater per megajoule, but 
gas-fired heaters cannot be used in the applications the Hydrosonic 
devices is used for.


The customers are unaware of the fact that it is over-unity. Based on 
my conversations with some of them, I doubt they would care if they 
knew, or think twice about it. People are remarkably incurious.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?

2009-03-11 Thread grok
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Quote from the article:

  The secret to the HPump's success, according to the inventor, is
  the use of shock waves to produce the heat, rather than electric
  heating elements or fossil fuels.

But where does the electricity to run the device come from
then..? The point of mentioning that now well-known evil, fossil
fuels, is to imply that they're actually, finally dispensing
with that messy stuff... Which would most likely be false,
certainly. -- Which, of course, is not exactly the real point
here: moving beyond the use of inconvenient heat sources at the
point of application.

They should be clear on this distinction. Being NASA, after all.


- -- grok.






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