Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton  wrote:


> Which denies still that the original formula contained cocaine (last
> time I visited there).
>

That's silly. It was common knowledge they used it. They advertised it!

There is no doubt they still use denatured leaves. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Company

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Michele,

That means we agree. Thanks.
I also wish you Merry Christmas and all well.
We will toast with wine, local bought from the producer. Red.
A good opportunity to express my admiration
for the high quality of Italian wines- have visited Italy in September
(Siena, Firenze, Pisa) and we were simply enchanted by almost eveything

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Michele Comitini <
michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter,
>
> Coke is an industrial drink, excellent but still no "soul".
>
> Beer is  artist's work and drinking dark beer as they brew it in your
> country is the proof of Benjamin Franklin's words.
>
> Marry Christmas and toast (with beer of course)!
> Il giorno 23/dic/2011 16:17, "Peter Gluck"  ha
> scritto:
>
> Michele,
>>
>> I don't know if I understand you exactly but a good beer (the proof that
>> God loves us) is a noble drink,
>> I am angry that in one of my favorite TV series- "Do you rang, mylord?"
>> black beer is considered a proletarian drink.
>> Being a chemical engineer I know well some beer factories and
>> technologies.
>> Coca Cola is a mixtura mirabilis excellent taste, it's true.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Michele Comitini <
>> michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to
>>> drink it
>>> > any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I bet you don't care.  The comparison is not fair:  it's like
>>> comparing a picture with a Brandl painting.
>>>
>>> mic
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Michele Comitini
Peter,

Coke is an industrial drink, excellent but still no "soul".

Beer is  artist's work and drinking dark beer as they brew it in your
country is the proof of Benjamin Franklin's words.

Marry Christmas and toast (with beer of course)!
Il giorno 23/dic/2011 16:17, "Peter Gluck"  ha
scritto:

> Michele,
>
> I don't know if I understand you exactly but a good beer (the proof that
> God loves us) is a noble drink,
> I am angry that in one of my favorite TV series- "Do you rang, mylord?"
> black beer is considered a proletarian drink.
> Being a chemical engineer I know well some beer factories and
> technologies.
> Coca Cola is a mixtura mirabilis excellent taste, it's true.
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Michele Comitini <
> michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to
>> drink it
>> > any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.
>> >
>>
>> I bet you don't care.  The comparison is not fair:  it's like
>> comparing a picture with a Brandl painting.
>>
>> mic
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Well, if you really want to find out the secret ingredients, it's a
lot more accessible now that the formula has been moved to the
Coco-cola Museum just this month:

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2011/12/08/coke-formula-moved-to-world-of-coke.html

Which denies still that the original formula contained cocaine (last
time I visited there).

T



Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread David Roberson

The Coca Cola secret is just a sales gimmick.  I am sure taste tests would show 
that people could not tell the difference between the real coke and imitations 
made in a lab.  The trick is to have people believe that it is unique.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Peter Gluck 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:53 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist


My impression is that the manufacture of Coca Cola is more an ritual than a 
secret.
However I think this recipe is true/real in proportion of 96,23%: 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8324778/Coca-Cola-recipe-discovered.html



My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to drink it any 
more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.


As regarding Rossi's secret it is very vulnerable.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat  
wrote:

Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and process to make 
Coca Cola?

AG



On 12/23/2011 6:54 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:

Alig 2004 hasa asked:
You said that anybody can buy a 1Mw plant. Are you not afraid that one of the 
customers will steal the secret after the installation and use it before you 
are able to get the patent?

And Rossi has answered:

Difficult, also if I know that many competitors, like the clowns who are saying 
they have been able to copy my technology with a “ghost buster” , hope to buy a 
plant to actually copy it and fill up their empty boxes ( the moke ups they 
made to steal money from some uncautious investor). Is difficult, very 
difficult.

So he does not like competition and tries to convince the world his Catalyst
is a deep mystery, not accessible to common people/engineers/scientists.
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com










-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com





Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread David Roberson

He might just be attempting to keep others from trying to duplicate his device.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Peter Gluck 
To: VORTEX 
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 3:25 am
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist


Alig 2004 hasa asked:
You said that anybody can buy a 1Mw plant. Are you not afraid that one of the 
customers will steal the secret after the installation and use it before you 
are able to get the patent? 


And Rossi has answered:



Difficult, also if I know that many competitors, like the clowns who are saying 
they have been able to copy my technology with a “ghost buster” , hope to buy a 
plant to actually copy it and fill up their empty boxes ( the moke ups they 
made to steal money from some uncautious investor). Is difficult, very 
difficult. 


So he does not like competition and tries to convince the world his Catalyst
is a deep mystery, not accessible to common people/engineers/scientists.
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com





RE: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Aussie:

> Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and
> process to make Coca Cola?

No coke... pepsi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_b9XwloHE

Definitely sweeter.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Michele,

I don't know if I understand you exactly but a good beer (the proof that
God loves us) is a noble drink,
I am angry that in one of my favorite TV series- "Do you rang, mylord?"
black beer is considered a proletarian drink.
Being a chemical engineer I know well some beer factories and technologies.
Coca Cola is a mixtura mirabilis excellent taste, it's true.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Michele Comitini <
michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to drink
> it
> > any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.
> >
>
> I bet you don't care.  The comparison is not fair:  it's like
> comparing a picture with a Brandl painting.
>
> mic
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Michele Comitini
> My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to drink it
> any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.
>

I bet you don't care.  The comparison is not fair:  it's like
comparing a picture with a Brandl painting.

mic



Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat  wrote:

Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and process to make
> Coca Cola?


All soft drink manufacturers make cola drinks that most customers find
indistinguishable from Coca-Cola. In blind taste tests most people cannot
tell the difference.

Chemists can easily determine the precise makeup of Coca-Cola. As Peter
says guarding the recipe is more ritual than reality.

Coca-Cola has one ingredient that only their company is allowed to use:
denatured cocaine. This was "grandfathered" into their recipe when cocaine
was made illegal. Even back then the Coca-Cola company had a lot of
political influence.

A small amount of coca leaves are legally imported into the US for two
purposes:

1. To be denatured for Coca-Cola.
2. For use in eye surgery.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Peter Gluck  wrote:

>
> Difficult, also if I know that many competitors, like the clowns who are
> saying they have been able to copy my technology with a “ghost buster” ,
> hope to buy a plant to actually copy it and fill up their empty boxes ( the
> moke ups they made to steal money from some uncautious investor). Is
> difficult, very difficult.
>

Hope to fill empty boxes... moke ups[sic] they made  etc.?Sounds as if
he's referencing Defkalion, maybe?

Steal money from some uncautious [sic] investor?  Perish the thought!


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Peter Gluck
My impression is that the manufacture of Coca Cola is more an ritual than a
secret.
However I think this recipe is true/real in proportion of 96,23%:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8324778/Coca-Cola-recipe-discovered.html

My hypertension is hypersensitive to Coca Cola so i do not dare to drink it
any more. Romanian or Czech black beer is excellent so I don't care.

As regarding Rossi's secret it is very vulnerable.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat  wrote:

> Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and process to
> make Coca Cola?
>
> AG
>
>
>
> On 12/23/2011 6:54 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
>
>> Alig 2004 hasa asked:
>> You said that anybody can buy a 1Mw plant. Are you not afraid that one of
>> the customers will steal the secret after the installation and use it
>> before you are able to get the patent?
>>
>> And Rossi has answered:
>>
>> Difficult, also if I know that many competitors, like the clowns who are
>> saying they have been able to copy my technology with a “ghost buster” ,
>> hope to buy a plant to actually copy it and fill up their empty boxes ( the
>> moke ups they made to steal money from some uncautious investor). Is
>> difficult, very difficult.
>>
>> So he does not like competition and tries to convince the world his
>> Catalyst
>> is a deep mystery, not accessible to common people/engineers/scientists.
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.**com 
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Rossi is not a pacifist

2011-12-23 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Had anybody successfully reverse engineered the formula and process to 
make Coca Cola?


AG


On 12/23/2011 6:54 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:

Alig 2004 hasa asked:
You said that anybody can buy a 1Mw plant. Are you not afraid that one 
of the customers will steal the secret after the installation and use 
it before you are able to get the patent?


And Rossi has answered:

Difficult, also if I know that many competitors, like the clowns who 
are saying they have been able to copy my technology with a “ghost 
buster” , hope to buy a plant to actually copy it and fill up their 
empty boxes ( the moke ups they made to steal money from some 
uncautious investor). Is difficult, very difficult.


So he does not like competition and tries to convince the world his 
Catalyst

is a deep mystery, not accessible to common people/engineers/scientists.
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com