RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
Mark, Good point about hundreds of entities just waiting to take Defkalion's place -If Defkallion was foolish enough to commit a breach of contract then Rossi gets to renegotiate with whoever he pleases, only now, he is in a far stronger position to dictate terms. I would bet a larger suitor like LOCKMART or GE steps in. Fran -Original Message- From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer. Someone felt that it appears that Defkalion is acting conciliatory... This isn't surprising at all... Defkalion and/or Stemmenos confirmed that Rossi's comment about it being 'purely financial' would explain what has happened. For whatever reasons, Defkalion has not performed according to the contract with Rossi. That 'performance' was most likely some kind of minor payment or deposit. I'm sure there have been many discussions over the issue and Rossi finally said, "That's it. No more talk. If you can't meet the contractual obligations then it is within my right to cancel the contract." Of course, this dialog is done thru their attorneys. Perhaps Defkalion was trying to gain some leverage, and Rossi eventually got tired of it and called their bluff. Then when they learn that Rossi has been in the US and apparently signed a big deal, Defkalion has to back-peddle and kiss major italian ass in order to save their investment. Rossi's 'big deal' in the US could also be a bluff, but is Defkalion willing to take that chance??? It would appear that Rossi won this round of bluffs... This is big-stakes poker at its best. This is how deals are done... Its all about posturing and leverage and whether one side wants to call the other side's bluff... If it isn't a bluff, then you may have just postured your way out of the deal; in this case, there are hundreds of entities who would take Defkalion's place in a heartbeat. -Mark
RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
Someone felt that it appears that Defkalion is acting conciliatory... This isn't surprising at all... Defkalion and/or Stemmenos confirmed that Rossi's comment about it being 'purely financial' would explain what has happened. For whatever reasons, Defkalion has not performed according to the contract with Rossi. That 'performance' was most likely some kind of minor payment or deposit. I'm sure there have been many discussions over the issue and Rossi finally said, "That's it. No more talk. If you can't meet the contractual obligations then it is within my right to cancel the contract." Of course, this dialog is done thru their attorneys. Perhaps Defkalion was trying to gain some leverage, and Rossi eventually got tired of it and called their bluff. Then when they learn that Rossi has been in the US and apparently signed a big deal, Defkalion has to back-peddle and kiss major italian ass in order to save their investment. Rossi's 'big deal' in the US could also be a bluff, but is Defkalion willing to take that chance??? It would appear that Rossi won this round of bluffs... This is big-stakes poker at its best. This is how deals are done... Its all about posturing and leverage and whether one side wants to call the other side's bluff... If it isn't a bluff, then you may have just postured your way out of the deal; in this case, there are hundreds of entities who would take Defkalion's place in a heartbeat. -Mark
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
Daniel sez: > Looks like the Witch Doctor was right at least about a few things, like > Rossi still looking for support. Thanks for the Stremmenos translation, Daniel. In regards to the "Witch Doctor" possibly being right about a few things, I remember a quote I got from them way back in the 1990s: "We are frequently wrong." I've never forgotten it. Everyone is entitled to occasionally missing the target. It also serves to point out the fact that in the end we must always evaluate available evidence using our own inner wisdom. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
Looks like the Witch Doctor was right at least about a few things, like Rossi still looking for support.
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
*"Ch Stremmenos* The writer in hierarchical order, has sought to pursue in his life and humbly serve the following VALUES: - scientific truth and its contribution anthropocentric ... ... - The values of culture, democracy, human civilization and environmental health as it develops. - My home country, Greece is not in parochial, but diachronically as a figure, bearing the above values. For what concerns the first point, for intellectual honesty can confirm that based on my past experience, as the work of many other colleagues who have studied after 89 cold fusion or "nuclear reactions in the solid state", aiming primarily demonstration of the existence of the phenomenon and its reproducibility was poor in all known to us.Ever since I converted, leaving the loaded electrolyte and opting for a more clean, ie the loading of nickel hydrogen gas (parallel research with S. Focardi and others), we believe that the phenomenon of nuclear fusion to Solid-state was a scientific fact but nothing more. Remained low production of excess energy, if the good reproducibility of the phenomenon was gradually improved ... ... The unique method that far exceeds the above-mentioned problems and that makes nuclear reactions in the solid state, *exploitable in the industry* is that of Mr. ANDREA ROSSI in close collaboration with Prof. Sergio Focardi. A landmark event both for the prospect of gradual satisfaction of the energy needs in the world for the potential barrier that keeps us from the point of *no return* on climate change on the planet ... ... I witnessed and participated in part, to the numerous tests and measurements, all performed with *success in Bologna,* not the one described in my informal relationship to the Greek government (07.07.11). In the presence of Mr. Rossi, Prof. Focardi, Dr. Bianchini, the writer, we found, as in all other evidence, the absence of radioactivity (a slight increase within the allowed limits, measured by Dr. Bianchini) and the production of thermal energy of 10.6 kWh / h, *largely self-sustained.* The numerical calculation made by Mr. Rossi, it coincides perfectly and is in *perfect agreement* with my analytical calculation (through a special computer program) that rigorously evaluates the fundamental function *enthalpy with general validity.* Mainly because my interest is and remains my contribution in the scientific and political level to encourage entrepreneurship and technology transfer Rossi in Greece, as I said earlier, my home, of course I regret this breach of origin *purely* ... *financial* ... With the firm belief that those who have given this technology era, deserves absolute respect and consideration, I am consoled by my inclination to always look with optimism character the forest and not the individual tree ... " cordial greetings Ch Stremmenos 2011/8/8 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > > From Daniele Passerini's blog: (google translated) > > > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F22passi.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fstremmenos-sulla-rottura-tra-rossi-e.html > > Can someone translate the contents and post it out here. The site is > blocked at some business establishments. > > Regards > Steven Vincent Johnson > www.OrionWorks.com > www.zazzle.com/orionworks > >
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.
> From Daniele Passerini's blog: (google translated) > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F22passi.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fstremmenos-sulla-rottura-tra-rossi-e.html Can someone translate the contents and post it out here. The site is blocked at some business establishments. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
