Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
if it is not impossible and there is enough money in doing it... it will be done On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:25 PM, David Roberson wrote: > What you say seems to be according to past experience. Sometimes there is > no good way, but it is too early to make a call on this one. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:22 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring." > > The transmutation rates associated with LeClair's cavitation system is > very high. He plans to use cavitation to produce rare elements. > > It all depends on the engineering and the system design. When there is > the will, there will always be a way. > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: > >> If and only if the reaction rates are commensurate with such an >> undertaking. Nagel's guess is currently "No". Time will tell however. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >>> If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic >>> manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and >>> properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. >>> When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers >>> to provide a desired result. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: >>> >>>> Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? >>>> Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects >>>> were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation >>>> rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still >>>> in the realm of hyper speculative thought. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion >>>>> are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of >>>>> elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the >>>>> production of energy from cold fusion. >>>>> >>>>> The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the >>>>> rarest: oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, >>>>> palladium, rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. >>>>> >>>>> However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may >>>>> make it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. >>>>> >>>>> Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which >>>>> will result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion >>>>> transmutation system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product >>>>> production, customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis >>>>> using any manor of element input as a feedstock. >>>>> >>>>> Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion >>>>> transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element >>>>> into the elements that supports the production of the product to be >>>>> produced by the 3D printer. >>>>> >>>>> Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on >>>>> the society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the >>>>> medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of >>>>> organizing society. >>>>> >>>>> The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible >>>>> since it will be the most efficient means of product production yet >>>>> devised >>>>> and highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and >>>>> an >>>>> end point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
What you say seems to be according to past experience. Sometimes there is no good way, but it is too early to make a call on this one. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 4:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring." The transmutation rates associated with LeClair's cavitation system is very high. He plans to use cavitation to produce rare elements. It all depends on the engineering and the system design. When there is the will, there will always be a way. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: If and only if the reaction rates are commensurate with such an undertaking. Nagel's guess is currently "No". Time will tell however. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers to provide a desired result. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still in the realm of hyper speculative thought. Regards, John On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the production of energy from cold fusion. The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the rarest: oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, palladium, rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may make it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which will result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion transmutation system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product production, customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis using any manor of element input as a feedstock. Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element into the elements that supports the production of the product to be produced by the 3D printer. Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on the society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of organizing society. The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible since it will be the most efficient means of product production yet devised and highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and an end point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling.
Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
The transmutation rates associated with LeClair's cavitation system is very high. He plans to use cavitation to produce rare elements. It all depends on the engineering and the system design. When there is the will, there will always be a way. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: > If and only if the reaction rates are commensurate with such an > undertaking. Nagel's guess is currently "No". Time will tell however. > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic >> manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and >> properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. >> When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers >> to provide a desired result. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: >> >>> Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? >>> Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects >>> were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation >>> rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still >>> in the realm of hyper speculative thought. >>> >>> Regards, >>> John >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >>> In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the production of energy from cold fusion. The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the rarest: oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, palladium, rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may make it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which will result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion transmutation system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product production, customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis using any manor of element input as a feedstock. Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element into the elements that supports the production of the product to be produced by the 3D printer. Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on the society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of organizing society. The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible since it will be the most efficient means of product production yet devised and highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and an end point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling. >>> >>> >> >
Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
If and only if the reaction rates are commensurate with such an undertaking. Nagel's guess is currently "No". Time will tell however. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic > manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and > properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. > When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers > to provide a desired result. > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: > >> Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? >> Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects >> were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation >> rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still >> in the realm of hyper speculative thought. >> >> Regards, >> John >> >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >>> In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion >>> are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of >>> elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the >>> production of energy from cold fusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the >>> rarest: oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, >>> palladium, rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. >>> >>> >>> >>> However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may make >>> it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which will >>> result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion transmutation >>> system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product production, >>> customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis using any manor >>> of element input as a feedstock. >>> >>> >>> >>> Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion >>> transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element >>> into the elements that supports the production of the product to be >>> produced by the 3D printer. >>> >>> >>> >>> Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on the >>> society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the >>> medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of >>> organizing society. >>> >>> >>> >>> The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible since >>> it will be the most efficient means of product production yet devised and >>> highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and an end >>> point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
If matter can be transmuted under the control of electromagnetic manipulation; this is highly likely, then ways to produce that EMF and properly direct it will eventually be formulated to affect the nucleus. When we know how a physical mechanism works in detail, it can be engineers to provide a desired result. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: > Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? Pretty > sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects were > impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation rates at > this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still in the > realm of hyper speculative thought. > > Regards, > John > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion >> are discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of >> elements on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the >> production of energy from cold fusion. >> >> >> >> The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the >> rarest: oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, >> palladium, rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. >> >> >> >> However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may make >> it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. >> >> >> >> Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which will >> result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion transmutation >> system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product production, >> customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis using any manor >> of element input as a feedstock. >> >> >> >> Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion >> transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element >> into the elements that supports the production of the product to be >> produced by the 3D printer. >> >> >> >> Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on the >> society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the >> medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of >> organizing society. >> >> >> >> The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible since >> it will be the most efficient means of product production yet devised and >> highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and an end >> point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: [Vo]:"What the future will bring."
Wasn't this sort of speculation answered by David Nagel at ICCF-18? Pretty sure his opinion was that large-scale transmutation plants/projects were impractical and unlikely based on what we know about transmutation rates at this time. Not saying your wrong, just saying this idea is still in the realm of hyper speculative thought. Regards, John On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > In the intermediate term, when the nuclear mechanisms of cold fusion are > discovered and eventually mastered, the precision transmutation of elements > on demand will be as valuable as or more valuable than the production of > energy from cold fusion. > > > > The common elements on the earth surface can be converted into the rarest: > oxygen and silicon could be transmuted into gold, ruthenium, palladium, > rhenium, iridium, rhodium, and osmium. > > > > However in densely populated cities, recycling of waste streams may make > it advantageous to convert those waste streams into new products. > > > > Cool fusion technology will enable other allied technologies which will > result in a major impact on society. When a cold fusion transmutation > system is integrated with computer driven 3D printer product production, > customized products can be manufactured on a one off basis using any manor > of element input as a feedstock. > > > > Without regard for energy cost or consumption, the cold fusion > transmutation system will convert each atom of the input feedstock element > into the elements that supports the production of the product to be > produced by the 3D printer. > > > > Such product production technology will have far reaching impact on the > society that will evolve around it. Employment may go the way of the > medieval serfdom feudalism society during the Middle Ages as a way of > organizing society. > > > > The motivation to develop this 3D technology will be irresistible since it > will be the most efficient means of product production yet devised and > highly efficient at capital utilization; it will be the ultimate and an end > point in robotic product production as well as waste recycling. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
