Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-22 Thread Peter Gluck 
My opinion is that this has to be taken quite seriously, the guy has bought
ready made nanoNickel and perhaps has found an additive similar to that
used by Rossi. Let's see what will Chan say in the following weeks.
Peter

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote:

> The word "scam" implies that somebody got cheated: it requires a
> perpetrator and at least one victim. Money or some other good must be
> exchanged fraudulently.
>
> If Chan is knowingly making something look like something else, as with
> various feats of bravery videos on youtube, it would be called an "hoax".
> That requires the absence of profit motives, except for the gain of
> personal satisfaction one would gain from fooling somebody else
>
> If, instead, he is doing something that he thinks is meaningful but,
> because of a factor such as what pointed out by Horace he is actually doing
> something altogether different and much less interesting, it would be a
> simple mistake, which would become a self delusion if one keeps insisting
> in the face of evidence.
>
> The parallels with the lives and deeds of Andrea Rossi, but even of MY,
> really, if one thinks about it, are left to anybody to ponder as they see
> fit.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> He is not asking for money. He is even asked for reproduction. You could
>> do it.
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/21 Mattia Rizzi 
>>
>>> A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.
>>>
>>> -Messaggio originale- From: David ledin Sent: Monday, November
>>> 21, 2011 10:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A person claim
>>> successful replication of e-cat
>>>  A person named Chan has posted a  descriptive method of replicating a
>>> version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim  reached self
>>> sustained fusion at 200 C for days.
>>>
>>> http://www.buildecat.com/blog_**detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>> danieldi...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-21 Thread Marcello Vitale 
The word "scam" implies that somebody got cheated: it requires a
perpetrator and at least one victim. Money or some other good must be
exchanged fraudulently.

If Chan is knowingly making something look like something else, as with
various feats of bravery videos on youtube, it would be called an "hoax".
That requires the absence of profit motives, except for the gain of
personal satisfaction one would gain from fooling somebody else

If, instead, he is doing something that he thinks is meaningful but,
because of a factor such as what pointed out by Horace he is actually doing
something altogether different and much less interesting, it would be a
simple mistake, which would become a self delusion if one keeps insisting
in the face of evidence.

The parallels with the lives and deeds of Andrea Rossi, but even of MY,
really, if one thinks about it, are left to anybody to ponder as they see
fit.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:

> He is not asking for money. He is even asked for reproduction. You could
> do it.
>
>
> 2011/11/21 Mattia Rizzi 
>
>> A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.
>>
>> -Messaggio originale- From: David ledin Sent: Monday, November
>> 21, 2011 10:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A person claim
>> successful replication of e-cat
>>  A person named Chan has posted a  descriptive method of replicating a
>> version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim  reached self
>> sustained fusion at 200 C for days.
>>
>> http://www.buildecat.com/blog_**detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-21 Thread Daniel Rocha 
He is not asking for money. He is even asked for reproduction. You could do
it.

2011/11/21 Mattia Rizzi 

> A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.
>
> -Messaggio originale- From: David ledin Sent: Monday, November 21,
> 2011 10:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A person claim
> successful replication of e-cat
> A person named Chan has posted a  descriptive method of replicating a
> version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim  reached self
> sustained fusion at 200 C for days.
>
> http://www.buildecat.com/blog_**detail/the-chan-formula-4.html
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-21 Thread Horace Heffner 


On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David ledin wrote:


A person named Chan has posted a  descriptive method of replicating a
version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim  reached self
sustained fusion at 200 C for days.

http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html





Good grief.  Mineral oil is a fuel: heat of combustion of 45.7 MJ/kg,  
better than coal, fire point coincidentally 196°C.  Chan is probably  
producing low rate controlled ignition using continuous RF electric  
discharge at 200°C local operating temperature.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-21 Thread Mattia Rizzi 

A scam inside a scam. Marvellous.

-Messaggio originale- 
From: David ledin 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:07 PM 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat 


A person named Chan has posted a  descriptive method of replicating a
version of the ecat on www.buildecat.com and claim  reached self
sustained fusion at 200 C for days.

http://www.buildecat.com/blog_detail/the-chan-formula-4.html