off topic economics

2005-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
In case some of you are still not too bored about economic discussion, 
here is a very good article about how we got into the mess we are in. 
The combination of low interest rates, outsourcing, and deficit spending 
both in government and industry has created a witches brew that is 
expected to produce economic collapse in the very near future, 
regardless of what China does.  Bush et al., based on the submitted 
budget, show no awareness of the problem and are continuing to base 
policy on lies. The only defense is personal awareness on which you can 
base a personal defense before the axe falls.

Regards,
Ed
GREENSPAN'S WHOPPER
by Bill Bonner
You are wasting your life and your talents writing about Alan Greenspan 
every day, said an old friend.

For years, we have been working on Greenspan's obituary. As far as we 
know, the man is still in excellent health. But we do not want to be 
caught off guard. Maybe we could even rush out a quickie biography, 
explaining to the masses the meaning of Mr. Greenspan's life and work.

Perhaps our friend is right. But then again, we weren't doing anything 
special before we started keeping up with the Fed chairman. Besides, we 
see something in Alan Greenspan's career...his comportment...his 
betrayal of his old ideas...his pact with the Devil in Washington...and 
his attempt to hold off nature's revenge at least until he leaves the 
Fed...that is both entertaining and educational. It smacks of Greek 
tragedy without the boring monologues or bloody intrigues. Even the 
language of it is Greek to most people. Though the Fed chairman speaks 
English, of course, his words often need translation and historical 
annotation. Rarely does the maestro make a statement that is 
comprehensible to the ordinary mortal. So much the better, we guess. If 
the average fellow really knew what he was talking about, he would be 
alarmed. And we have no illusions. Whoever attempts to explain it to him 
will get no thanks; he might as well tell his teenage daughter what is 
in her hotdog.

We persevere anyway, more in mischief than in earnest.
The background: The U.S. economy faced a major recession in 2001 and had 
a minor one. The necessary slump he held off by a dramatic resort to 
central planning. The invisible hand is fine for lumber and poultry 
prices. But at the short end of the market in debt, Alan Greenspan's paw 
presses down, like a butcher's thumb on the meat scale. The Fed quickly 
cut rates to head off the recession. Indeed, never before had rates been 
cut so much, so fast. George W. Bush, meanwhile, boosted spending. The 
resultant shock of renewed, ersatz demand not only postponed the 
recession; it misled consumers, investors and businessmen to make even 
more egregious errors. Investors bought stock with low earnings yields. 
Consumers went further into debt. Government liabilities rose. The trade 
deficit grew larger. Even on the other side of the globe, foreign 
businessmen geared up to meet the phony new demand; China enjoyed a 
capital spending boom as excessive as any the world has ever seen.

What the Greenspan Fed had accomplished was to put off a natural, 
cyclical correction and transmogrify an entire economy into a monstrous 
ECONOMIC bubble. A bubble in stock prices may do little real economic 
damage. Eventually, the bubble pops and the phony money people thought 
they had disappears like a puff of marijuana smoke. There are winners 
and losers. But in the end, the economy is about where it began - 
unharmed and unhelped. The households are still there...and still 
spending money as they did before...and the companies still in business. 
Only those that leveraged themselves too highly in the bubble years are 
in any trouble - and they probably deserve to go out of business.

Even a property bubble may come and go with little effect on the overall 
economy. House prices have been running up in France, for example, at 
nearly the same rates as in America. But in France there is very little 
mortgage refinancing...or taking out of equity. The European Central 
Bank was repeatedly urged to lower rates in line with those in America. 
It refused to budge. Without falling rates, there was no refi boom. 
Nor were European banks offering home equity lines of credit. Property 
could run up...and run down...and the only people who cared would be the 
actual buyers or sellers, who either cursed themselves or felt like 
geniuses, depending on their luck.

But in Greenspan's bubble economy something remarkably awful happened. 
Householders were lured to take out the equity in their homes. They 
believed that the bubble in real estate priced created wealth that 
they could spend. Many did not hesitate. Mortgage debt ballooned in the 
early years of the 21st century - from about $6 trillion in 1999 to 
nearly $9 trillion at the end of 2004. Three trillion dollars may not 
seem like much to you, dear reader. But it increased the average 
household's debt by $30,000. 

Re: off topic economics

2005-02-12 Thread RC Macaulay



Thanks Ed for posting the Bill Bonner writing on 
Greenspan.

Don Rumsfield recently commented on the US Govt debt.. 
saying.. " deficits don't matter". 

He is correct.. they don't matter anymore! 
Anybody that don't see the huge chasm in the middle of the road about June 
of this year is blind and lying to himself.

The hoard of cash and credit made available ( in 
lieu of hard work)has spun the world in ever 
increasing speeds where no one dare try to change because it could bring the 
house of cards down.. so the name of the game is " keep the balloon 
up"
Theworld banks thought they could win at monolopy 
by printing their own money. (Rothschild said once ..he didnt care who ran the 
Government as long as he ran the bank.) ( which ultimatelydictates 
tothe Government as the Chinese are learning)
What do the bankerswin??
They win play money because thats whats its actually 
worth when the game ends.. It used to be that the winner of the game of monolopy 
had to put all the play money, the hotels, cards and dice back in the box before 
bedtime.
What to you bet they don't ! They will leave it to the 
losers to put the game back in the box, complaining of what rotten losers we 
are.
Brings to mind Geo. Washington's departing speech.. 
"beware of foriegn entanglements". W is a 
"Yalie". Not even a Yalie can get himself 
out of this mess and Yalies are known to be able to wiggle out of almost 
anything.

Richard

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RE: off topic economics

2005-02-12 Thread Michael Foster

I find it particularly disturbing whenever I read something like
this:


 Our own Fed chairman, guardian of the nation's money...custodian
 of its economy...night watchman of its wealth...
 How could he do such a thing? And yet he has done it. He turned a
 financial bubble into an economic bubble. Not only were the prices 
 of financial assets ballooned to excess...so were the prices of
 houses...and so were the debts of the average household.
 Where does it lead? The force of a correction is equal to the
 deception that preceded it. Mr. Greenspan's whopper must be
 followed by a whopper of a slump.

This shows almost total ignorance of the nature of the Federal 
Reserve and its purpose.  The Federal Reserve, while it has a government 
charter, is a private company.  Its purpose, and that 
of its chairman is to stabilize banks and to maximize their profits.

Usually, when I inform people of this, they think I must be some
sort of conspiracy nut.  One only needs to read the Federal Reserve
Act of 1913.  It's not very long and should be required reading
for every child in school.

Mr. Greenspan is not the custodian of (the nation's) economy.
He is merely the public face of the Federal Reserve.  The Fed
makes decisions attempting to make the most money for banks,
especially members of the Fed.  When that corresponds with a
healthy economy, as it generally does, then the Fed is doing us
all a favor.  Aren't we lucky?  

The public assumes great knowledge and
omniscience must reside in institutions such as the Fed.  The 
simple fact is that it's made up of human beings who can guess 
wrong and make really stupid mistakes, just like the rest of us.
Tightening the money supply just as the Great Depression was
descending upon us is an example of such foolishness and wrong-
headedness.

M.




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