Re: [vox-tech] HP Printer Issues

[Robert G. Scofield]

On Friday 30 November 2001 06:14 pm, you wrote:
> In our house, we have an HP DeskJet 712c printer.  

 I've established a connection from my
> Linux box to the printer just fine,

You mean it actually prints from the Linux box?

 but when I try printing from my
> Linux box, I receive this error on my Windows computer:
>
> Hpfbkg13: This program has performed an illegal operation yada yada yada
> yada.
>
> Aside from the obvious and most effective solution of dumping Win98 on
> the laptop computer and replacing it with Linux (which my wife would be
> dead-set against) is there anything I can do?  I have already tried
> uninstalling and installing the printer drivers on the win98 computer.
> Has anyne encountered a problem like this, and does anyone have any
> ideas for how to solve it?

I've always believed that the HP 700 series was a series of winprinters.  I 
have a 722C, and I know for sure that it is a winprinter.  There used to be a 
web site where you could get hacked drivers for the HP winprinters.  But I 
went out and bought a separate printer for my Linux.  In fact on the old 
family dual boot I had a data switch connecting both printers to the computer.

What happened was that HP wanted to compete by selling a high quality printer 
for a low price.  So they took out the expensive chips from the winprinters 
and had them run from the computer's hardware.

Bob
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[vox-tech] HP Printer Issues

[Richard Crawford]

In our house, we have an HP DeskJet 712c printer.  The printer is hooked
up to a Windows98SE laptop which acts as our print server (it was the
only spare computer we had).  I've established a connection from my
Linux box to the printer just fine, but when I try printing from my
Linux box, I receive this error on my Windows computer:

Hpfbkg13: This program has performed an illegal operation yada yada yada
yada.

Aside from the obvious and most effective solution of dumping Win98 on
the laptop computer and replacing it with Linux (which my wife would be
dead-set against) is there anything I can do?  I have already tried
uninstalling and installing the printer drivers on the win98 computer. 
Has anyne encountered a problem like this, and does anyone have any
ideas for how to solve it?

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Robert G. Scofield]

On Friday 30 November 2001 03:28 pm, you wrote:
> if you don't do this,
> you'll need to add your umask to both files.

Okay, I did this and it worked.

Thanks to all of you.

After two and a half years as a Gnome user I've converted to KDE.  This umask 
change allows me to access and write to the same Korganizer calendar from 
both my personal account and my business account.

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Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Jeff Newmiller]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
[...]
> > I am having some trouble with my internet connection at home. I called for
> > support and waited on hold for about 25 minutes (no joke I timed it). When I
> > got hold of AT&T they asked what Operating system I had and as soon as I
> > said Linux they took this whole we can't help you with anything attitude.
> > They also said I should be using DHCP. So I tried to set it up to use DHCP
> > and it would not work. I get connected using the static IP, but I am not
> > able to get my usual connection speed. My connection speeds have been really
> > crappy for about 3 weeks. I have a static IP and have checked it out as far
> > as settings and it looks good. I thought it maybe be my cat5 cable so I
> > replaced it and it made little difference. At work I use Windows NT with HP
> > OpenView to trouble shoot our network connections. Is there anything like it
> > I can use with Linux?
> 
> troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?  i'd
> eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.

Be careful, Pete.  What you "can do" in Linux sometimes requires that
someone create the software to do so, which at best can take time.
This is particularly true in newer technologies like ATM cards.
Fortunately, DHCP _is_ supported, but it is a fairly complicated piece of
software that has had a history of signficant updates so troubleshooting
requires that you be familiar with "normal" networking under Linux as well
as that history.

> > I can ping successfully to yahoo.com. I can send and
> > receive email (though very slowly). I am starting to babble now. Let me know
> > what information to send or any advice on how to deal with AT&T. I thought
> > about telling them I have Winblows, but I would rather not have to do that.
>  
> i'm sure it can be done, but i know literally nothing about DHCP.   i don't
> even know what it stands for, although i can guess that D=dynamic and
> P=protocol.   :-)   i'm sure there are people here who use DHCP.   anyone
> help here?

The key for DHCP on Linux is dhclient, which broadcasts requests (possibly
with identifying information such as an assigned host name) and listens
for answers containing a wide variety of bits... ip address, mask, dns
server addresses, wins servers, whatever.  The newer versions of dhclient
handle more bits, putting them in the right files according to the
configuration of the client.

While I have used it briefly on other people's setups, I don't have
detailed experience with the mechanics of troubleshooting it because I was
assigned a static IP by DCN.  I guess you can read
http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/ and find out more, but a grasp of the
fundamentals of network troubleshooting will be required if the
out-of-the-box scripts don't work for you.  Watch the error messages, look
in the usual network configuration files after dhclient gets an assignment
to see what the result was, use ping, ifconfig, route -n, and so forth to
see what it did to the kernel.

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Micah Cowan]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:12:23PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> 
> > I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I
> > don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?
> 
> Make sure you're using BASH.  Sometimes BASH won't execute ~/.bashrc, but
> if it's properly setup, then it should -- try putting in some echo
> commands to see if it's executing bashrc.  Sometimes the global bashrc
> will overwrite some parts of your local bashrc, so check the order of
> execution in both the global and the local bashrc.
> 
> -Mark

Good point.  ~/.bashrc is only activated for non-login sessions (i.e.,
xterms, subshells), but is not activated for login session shells
(e.g., at the *real* console), in which case .bash_profile is loaded
(which isn't for the non-logins).  My solution has always been to
simply source ~/.bashrc from ~/.bash_profile - if you don't do this,
you'll need to add your umask to both files.

And, of course, if you're not using BASH, don't put it in ~/.bashrc at
all ;)

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Micah Cowan]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:33:10PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> but seriously, you can also do:
> 
> $ . $HOME/.bashrc?
> 
> pete

Well, yeah - except I always hate doing that because I'll get
redundant entries in some variables which are set in terms of
themselves, e.g.:

PATH=$PATH:/foo/bar/baz:/quux

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Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Peter Jay Salzman]

begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> 
> Your not attempting to do Peter in are you? 
> 
> Seriously Peter I use it to monitor traffic and test lines, I know I can do
> the same on Linux. I have done some of it, but I was looking to see what
> kind on integrated network tools are available.

well, integrated, i don't know about.   i guess ifconfig, route, ping,
tracerroute and a few others do well.  guess it would be nice if someone
wrote something that integrated it all in a package that didn't require a
graphical interface, since we often configure a net connection before X.

> Thanks for the info on the
> Kernal. I will download the new Kernal tonight. I have not installed a
> Kernal in almost one year. This should be interesting.
 
if you:

1. use "make oldconfig" [1]
2. remember to use lilo

everything should be ok.

pete

[1] you may not have a .config supplied by suse.  if not, well, just be sure
to read all the help for stuff you don't know about.   email vox-tech
if you need advice on a particular kernel config parameter.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: R. Douglas Barbieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions
> 
> 
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> > begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >... Is there anything like it I can use with Linux?
> >>
> > 
> > troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?
> i'd
> > eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.
> 
> Would you eat your XP hat pete?
> 
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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Mark K. Kim]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

> I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I
> don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?

Make sure you're using BASH.  Sometimes BASH won't execute ~/.bashrc, but
if it's properly setup, then it should -- try putting in some echo
commands to see if it's executing bashrc.  Sometimes the global bashrc
will overwrite some parts of your local bashrc, so check the order of
execution in both the global and the local bashrc.

-Mark

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RE: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Roland Minden]

Your not attempting to do Peter in are you? 

Seriously Peter I use it to monitor traffic and test lines, I know I can do
the same on Linux. I have done some of it, but I was looking to see what
kind on integrated network tools are available. Thanks for the info on the
Kernal. I will download the new Kernal tonight. I have not installed a
Kernal in almost one year. This should be interesting.

Rusty



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Subject: Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions


Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> 

[snip]

>... Is there anything like it I can use with Linux?
>>
> 
> troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?
i'd
> eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.

Would you eat your XP hat pete?

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Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Peter Jay Salzman]

begin: R. Douglas Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> >begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> >
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >... Is there anything like it I can use with Linux?
> >>
> >
> >troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?  i'd
> >eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.
> 
> Would you eat your XP hat pete?
 
no -- i love it too much!!   ;-)

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Jeff Newmiller]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> begin: Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thursday 29 November 2001 02:34 pm, you wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 02:31:43PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to change the umask value in two of my accounts from 002 to
> > > > > 001. However, after I log out of each account the value reverts back to
> > > > > 002.  How can I make the change to 001 permanent?
> > > >
> > > > You want to stick the call to the 'umask' command in your login script/conf
> > > > (".bashrc", ".bash_profile", ".cshrc", or whatever)
> > > 
> > > Okay, now I'm trying to change an 022 to a 002.  In .bashrc I have this line: 
> > > 
> > > "# User specific aliases and functions"
> > > 
> > > I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I 
> > > don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?
> > 
> > umask 002
> > 
> > Make sure you log out and back in again, because this file is only sourced
> > on bootup.
>  
> does that imply that logging out and back in will reboot the computer?   ;-)

My attention was diverted... sorry. :)

> but seriously, you can also do:
> 
> $ . $HOME/.bashrc?

... without the question mark... :)

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Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[R. Douglas Barbieri]

Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> 

[snip]

>... Is there anything like it I can use with Linux?
>>
> 
> troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?  i'd
> eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.

Would you eat your XP hat pete?

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Peter Jay Salzman]

begin: Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 29 November 2001 02:34 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 02:31:43PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to change the umask value in two of my accounts from 002 to
> > > > 001. However, after I log out of each account the value reverts back to
> > > > 002.  How can I make the change to 001 permanent?
> > >
> > > You want to stick the call to the 'umask' command in your login script/conf
> > > (".bashrc", ".bash_profile", ".cshrc", or whatever)
> > 
> > Okay, now I'm trying to change an 022 to a 002.  In .bashrc I have this line: 
> > 
> > "# User specific aliases and functions"
> > 
> > I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I 
> > don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?
> 
> umask 002
> 
> Make sure you log out and back in again, because this file is only sourced
> on bootup.
 
does that imply that logging out and back in will reboot the computer?   ;-)

but seriously, you can also do:

$ . $HOME/.bashrc?

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Peter Jay Salzman]

begin: Roland Minden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> Thanks for the update Peter. Is there a known problem with the 2.4.10 Kernal
> in regards to ext3? I use SuSE and it comes with 2.4.10 and I have had some
> weird trouble with ext3. I would up reinstalling with reiserfs and the
> trouble has gone away.
 
yes, there's a VERY big problem with ext3 in 2.4.10...

ext3 wasn't in 2.4.10.:-)

ok.  serously.   the ext3 authors begged linus not to put ext3 in the kernel
until 2.5 got released.  it just wasn't ready.  now that 2.5 is out, it was
placed in 2.4.16, since that got released after 2.5.

sidenote:
it's fascinating to me that ext3 is in 2.4.16 and not 2.5.0, since 2.5.0 is
supposed to be an exact byte-for-byte copy of 2.4.15 with the kernel version
bumped by one and 2.4.16 was released *after* 2.5.0.

if ext3 came with suse's version of the kernel, it means that suse took a
developer's kernel patch and applied it to a stable kernel.

jeez, i can see if you want to give your customers a cool feature like
enhanced video mode detection, but for something like a *filesystem* where
people keep their important data...holy cow.

i've used developers patches, but only for things like when my KT266 chipset
didn't have a stable AGP driver.  but i'd certainly never use it for
something like a filesystem.

i'd suggest you upgrade directly to 2.4.16.  this is the first kernel with
officially stable ext3 support.  see if that helps.   i plan on using ext3,
but i'm going to wait until a new stable kernel comes out.

> I am having some trouble with my internet connection at home. I called for
> support and waited on hold for about 25 minutes (no joke I timed it). When I
> got hold of AT&T they asked what Operating system I had and as soon as I
> said Linux they took this whole we can't help you with anything attitude.
> They also said I should be using DHCP. So I tried to set it up to use DHCP
> and it would not work. I get connected using the static IP, but I am not
> able to get my usual connection speed. My connection speeds have been really
> crappy for about 3 weeks. I have a static IP and have checked it out as far
> as settings and it looks good. I thought it maybe be my cat5 cable so I
> replaced it and it made little difference. At work I use Windows NT with HP
> OpenView to trouble shoot our network connections. Is there anything like it
> I can use with Linux?

troubleshoot exactly what?  what sorts of things do they give info on?  i'd
eat my hat if you couldn't do the same thing on linux.

> I can ping successfully to yahoo.com. I can send and
> receive email (though very slowly). I am starting to babble now. Let me know
> what information to send or any advice on how to deal with AT&T. I thought
> about telling them I have Winblows, but I would rather not have to do that.
 
i'm sure it can be done, but i know literally nothing about DHCP.   i don't
even know what it stands for, although i can guess that D=dynamic and
P=protocol.   :-)   i'm sure there are people here who use DHCP.   anyone
help here?

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Jeff Newmiller]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

> On Thursday 29 November 2001 02:34 pm, you wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 02:31:43PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> > > I'm trying to change the umask value in two of my accounts from 002 to
> > > 001. However, after I log out of each account the value reverts back to
> > > 002.  How can I make the change to 001 permanent?
> >
> > You want to stick the call to the 'umask' command in your login script/conf
> > (".bashrc", ".bash_profile", ".cshrc", or whatever)
> 
> Okay, now I'm trying to change an 022 to a 002.  In .bashrc I have this line: 
> 
> "# User specific aliases and functions"
> 
> I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I 
> don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?

umask 002

Make sure you log out and back in again, because this file is only sourced
on bootup.

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[vox-tech] Peters Kernal Update and a Few Questions

[Roland Minden]

Thanks for the update Peter. Is there a known problem with the 2.4.10 Kernal
in regards to ext3? I use SuSE and it comes with 2.4.10 and I have had some
weird trouble with ext3. I would up reinstalling with reiserfs and the
trouble has gone away.

I am having some trouble with my internet connection at home. I called for
support and waited on hold for about 25 minutes (no joke I timed it). When I
got hold of AT&T they asked what Operating system I had and as soon as I
said Linux they took this whole we can't help you with anything attitude.
They also said I should be using DHCP. So I tried to set it up to use DHCP
and it would not work. I get connected using the static IP, but I am not
able to get my usual connection speed. My connection speeds have been really
crappy for about 3 weeks. I have a static IP and have checked it out as far
as settings and it looks good. I thought it maybe be my cat5 cable so I
replaced it and it made little difference. At work I use Windows NT with HP
OpenView to trouble shoot our network connections. Is there anything like it
I can use with Linux? I can ping successfully to yahoo.com. I can send and
receive email (though very slowly). I am starting to babble now. Let me know
what information to send or any advice on how to deal with AT&T. I thought
about telling them I have Winblows, but I would rather not have to do that.

Rusty

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Re: [vox-tech] umask

[Robert G. Scofield]

On Thursday 29 November 2001 02:34 pm, you wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 02:31:43PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
> > I'm trying to change the umask value in two of my accounts from 002 to
> > 001. However, after I log out of each account the value reverts back to
> > 002.  How can I make the change to 001 permanent?
>
> You want to stick the call to the 'umask' command in your login script/conf
> (".bashrc", ".bash_profile", ".cshrc", or whatever)

Okay, now I'm trying to change an 022 to a 002.  In .bashrc I have this line: 

"# User specific aliases and functions"

I tried putting "umask 002" under this and nothing happened.  So I guess I 
don't know what I'm doing.  What do I put?  What exactly is "the call"?

Thanks,

Bob
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[vox-tech] kernel update

[Peter Jay Salzman]

in case you haven't heard:

don't use 2.4.11 or 2.4.15.  they both can destroy filesystems under certain
circumstances.

don't use 2.4.13 and 2.4.14.  they have buggy swap daemons.  kswapd
periodically goes nuts.  (it's ok to use the alan cox version of these
kernels since he uses the rik van riel VM as opposed to the andrea
arangelli(sp?) VM).

if you use a radeon, you must use 2.4.10 or higher.  people with VIA chipsets
must also use 2.4.10 or higher, but some agp code for VIA boards was slightly
buggy in 2.4.10.  that doesn't leave too many choices for people with radeons
on motherboards with VIA chipsets.  :)

2.4.16 came out, and so far so good.  the kswapd problem was fixed.  in
addition, it now adds support for ext3.  currently, there is no reliable way
to undelete a file with reiserfs.  there's no "debugfs" type tool for
reiserfs.  and the developers of reiserfs have *openly* stated: "we will
write such a tool if and only if someone pays us to write it".

i seriously doubt that kernel developers like remy card and theodore t'so
will take this attitude.  i'm sure that ext3 tools will be available soon, if
they aren't already available now.  i think i'm switching from reiser to
ext3 soon.  i'm just going to give it a few more weeks...

pete

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[vox-tech] rejecting spam using tcpwrappers

[Peter Jay Salzman]

ok, i think i figured this out.  in inetd.conf, i modified the smtp line to
read:

   smtp   stream   tcp   nowait   mail /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/exim -bs

whenever spam arrives, i simply drop the offending host in /etc/hosts.deny.
the reason for this is it seems nicer to reject spam, rather than ignore it
(as you would with a procmail filter).  that way, the spammers know that
you're not listening to them.  by filtering, they never know the difference.

anyway, the only tweak i think i need to make is with logcheck:

Nov 30 11:25:24 exim[7763]: connect from murphy.debian.org
Nov 30 11:26:34 exim[7776]: connect from murphy.debian.org
Nov 30 11:27:19 exim[7787]: connect from foobar.math.fu-berlin.de
Nov 30 11:29:43 exim[7804]: connect from murphy.debian.org
Nov 30 11:32:45 exim[7811]: connect from murphy.debian.org
Nov 30 11:36:28 exim[7822]: connect from murphy.debian.org
Nov 30 11:41:01 exim[7846]: connect from dcn251-11.dcn.davis.ca.us
Nov 30 11:51:49 exim[7870]: connect from ig25.optinrewards.com
Nov 30 11:56:11 exim[7985]: refused connect from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com

the wrapper reports each mail connect (and reject).  if anything, i'm only
interested in what sessions get rejected.

other than this, i think this works...

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] bypass linux native tcp stack

[Jan Wynholds]

Hi,

I am not too sure about what you are asking (and I am no expert on the
subject), but I think you might want to check out the Netfilter test suite as
well.  With that, you can 'bypass' the normal hardware interface (like an
ethernet card), and send frames from another software interface (like ethertap
does).  But it's all for testing the hardiness of iptables (so the rest of the
system is completely unaffected).  You can generate UDP and other protocol
packets with that tool, and not just tcp/ip.  The nice thing about the test
suite is that it has a step by step testing of your firewall (or router,
etc)...

I am not too sure what your point of doing this is, but if it is for security
testing, the netfilter test suite is *really* nice.  If not, tho, you might
want to look at something different.

HTH,

jan


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> I have 'nt got into details of Linux tcp/ip architecture. Can someone tell
> me how coupled is the socket layer in linux with its native tcp/ip stack. Is
> it possible for me to make the linux socket layer bypass the native tcp/ip
> stack and communicate with some other layer (say another tcpip
> implementation) , without affecting the existing applications. Would
> appreciate some pointers,discussions on this subject.
> 
> Thanks a lot !
> Ganesh
> 
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[vox-tech] more on the remote ssh exploit

[Peter Jay Salzman]

- Forwarded message from Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:06:46 +0100
To: Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Debian-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh exploit?
X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/183598

At 9:43 Uhr -0600 30.11.2001, Dave Sherohman wrote:
>Heard a rumor on the local LUG mailing list this morning about a
>remote root exploit in sshd.  Nothing resembling details was
>presented, just a link to the openssh-unix-dev mailing list archive:
>
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=100696253318793&w=2
>
>Anybody know anything of substance about it?  Assuming it's real, are
>current debian versions affected?  (I assume so, but don't have the
>exploit code to test it.)

The reply to the message from the given url indicates that the 
exploit is using "the old bug in deattack.c".

A little research gave me:


* OpenSSH 2.3.0 and newer are not vulnerable to the "Feb 8, 2001: 
SSH-1 Daemon CRC32 Compensation Attack Detector Vulnerability", RAZOR 
Bindview Advisory CAN-2001-0144. A buffer overflow in the CRC32 
compensation attack detector can lead to remote root access. This 
problem has been fixed in OpenSSH 2.3.0. However, versions prior to 
2.3.0 are vulnerable.



Issue Date: February 8, 2001
Remotely exploitable vulnerability condition exists in most ssh daemon
  installations (F-SECURE, OpenSSH, SSH from ssh.com, OSSH).
Vulnerable:
 OpenSSH prior to 2.3.0 (unless SSH protocol 1 support is disabled)
Not vulnerable:
 OpenSSH 2.3.0 (problem fixed)

Overview:

An integer-overflow problem is present in common code of recent ssh 
daemons, deattack.c, which was developed by CORE SDI to protect 
against cryptographic attacks on SSH protocol.

Impact:

Insufficient range control calculations (16-bit unsigned variable is 
used instead of 32-bit, which causes integer overflow) in the 
detect_attack() function leads to table index overflow bug. This 
effectively allows an attacker to overwrite arbitrary portions of 
memory. The altered memory locations affect code that is executed by 
the daemon with uid 0, and this can be leveraged to obtain general 
root access to the system.


To reproduce this condition, run your sshd server on localhost under 
gdb with '-d' switch (to avoid forking). Then try (using OpenSSH 
client - ssh.com client software crops the login name):

$ ssh -v -l `perl -e '{print "A"x88000}'` localhost



(I have tested the above (though without gdb/-d mode) and it doesn't 
seem to be a problem.)


There has been a security fix for potato in february, with the 
following in the patch:
--- openssh-1.2.3.orig/deattack.c
+++ openssh-1.2.3/deattack.c
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@
 detect_attack(unsigned char *buf, u_int32_t len, unsigned char *IV)
 {
static u_int16_t *h = (u_int16_t *) NULL;
-   static u_int16_t n = HASH_MINSIZE / HASH_ENTRYSIZE;
+   static u_int32_t n = HASH_MINSIZE / HASH_ENTRYSIZE;
register u_int32_t i, j;
u_int32_t l;
register unsigned char *c;

When looking at the source of openssh-2.9p2 as used in woody/sid, I 
see the following code in deattack.c:
int
detect_attack(u_char *buf, u_int32_t len, u_char *IV)
{
static u_int16_t *h = (u_int16_t *) NULL;
static u_int32_t n = HASH_MINSIZE / HASH_ENTRYSIZE;
register u_int32_t i, j;
u_int32_t l;
register u_char *c;
u_char *d;

This is in the openssh_2.9p2.orig.tar.gz, not the patch. So it seems 
the problem is already fixed in the original openssh-2.9p2, not only 
openssh-3.0. I've verified that it's the same in the openssh-2.9p2 
from a openssh.org software mirror.


My conclusions:
- ssh versions in potato/woody/sid are not vulnerable (assuming that 
the exploit really uses the deattack problem)
- Information on both www.openssh.org and razor.bindview.com (see 
url's above) is not correct about the version in which the 
vulnerability was closed.

christian.

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Re: [vox-tech] procmail question

[Peter Jay Salzman]

wow.  now i am truly embarrassed.  but grateful.  thanks, matt.

pete


begin: Matt Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> I think it would be better to write your rule like this:
> 
> :0 c
> * !^From.*MAILER-DAEMON
> * !^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * !^From.*vox.*-admin
> * !^Subject.*BOUNCE vox
> backup
> 
> Each rule is AND'd together, so a message will only go into your backup
> folder if each rule is true.  You don't want to OR the conditions
> together because then the only messages you are excluding from your
> backup folder are the ones that fail all the tests.
> 
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:18:38AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > i have a few questions about procmail.  if you know any of them,
> > please feel free to jump in:
> > 
> ># make a backup
> >:0 c
> >* ! ^From.*MAILER-DAEMON   |  # don't backup error msgs
> >  ! ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  # don't backup spamcop msgs
> >  ! ^From.*vox.*-admin |  # don't backup admin requests
> >  ! ^Subject.*BOUNCE vox  # don't backup bounce msgs
> >backup
> > 
> > 
> > are lines continued automatically, or do i need an escape character
> > like "\"?
> > 
> > can comments go between conditionals like this?
> > 
> > any problems anyone can see with this?
> > 
> > thanks, pete
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Re: [vox-tech] procmail question

[Matt Roper]

I think it would be better to write your rule like this:

:0 c
* !^From.*MAILER-DAEMON
* !^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* !^From.*vox.*-admin
* !^Subject.*BOUNCE vox
backup

Each rule is AND'd together, so a message will only go into your backup
folder if each rule is true.  You don't want to OR the conditions
together because then the only messages you are excluding from your
backup folder are the ones that fail all the tests.


Matt

On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:18:38AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> i have a few questions about procmail.  if you know any of them,
> please feel free to jump in:
> 
># make a backup
>:0 c
>* ! ^From.*MAILER-DAEMON   |  # don't backup error msgs
>  ! ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  # don't backup spamcop msgs
>  ! ^From.*vox.*-admin |  # don't backup admin requests
>  ! ^Subject.*BOUNCE vox  # don't backup bounce msgs
>backup
> 
> 
> are lines continued automatically, or do i need an escape character
> like "\"?
> 
> can comments go between conditionals like this?
> 
> any problems anyone can see with this?
> 
> thanks, pete
> 
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Re: [vox-tech] vintage lilo interface

[Peter Jay Salzman]

eric, love you.

;)

pete

begin: Reverend EvvL X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> >hi there,
> >
> >awhile ago, the lilo interface on woody changed.  these days, it clears the
> >screen and shows a red menu of all the kernels that are available to boot.
> >
> >i'd like to change this back to the original "vintage" interface, which was
> >just plain text, no screen clears, no red menus.
> >
> >anyone have any idea if the old interface is still available?
> >
> 
> Peter,
>   I think its where your /boot/boot.b is symlinked to. if you getting 
> the menu then its the
> boot-menu.b just re-symlink it to the boot-text.b file.
> 
> -Eric

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[vox-tech] finding what package provides a file in debian (cool!)

[Peter Jay Salzman]

here's a nice one that every debian user should know about.

suppose you want to compile a program, and gcc complains that it can't find a
library, say, SDL_video.h.   and you have no idea what debian package provides
this file.   use auto-apt:

   # auto-apt search SDL_video.h
   usr/include/SDL/SDL_video.h devel/libsdl1.1-dev

so the package libsdl1.1-dev provides the SDL_video.h

it's kind of like dpkg -L in reverse.   dpkg -L tells you what files a
particular package will install on your system.   auto-apt tells you
what packages will provide you with that particular file.

but there's more here.  this very cool feature isn't even what auto-apt is
all about.  from the man page:

   auto-apt is a program that checks file access of  programs
   running  within  auto-apt environments.  If a program will
   access  a  file  of  uninstalled  package,  auto-apt  will
   install the package containing the file, by using apt-get.

wow!

pete


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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:44:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h
To: deb-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/183563


--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 30-Nov-2001 Charles Baker wrote:
> > I just found this neat little doc app for
> windowmaker
> > called wmfortune. I tried to compile it, but it
> can't
> > find these include files: X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h .
> What
> > packages do I need to install to get these include
> > files and presumably their implementations? I
> checked
> > and wmfortune is not an official deb package.
> Thanks.
> > 
> 
> Easy answer: xlib-dev.
> 
> Teach a man to fish answer: install auto-apt and
> 
> $ auto-apt search Xlib.h
> usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.hdevel/xlibs-dev


Thanks. I'm falling in love with Debian! The apt suite
of tools is a magnificent piece of work.



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Re: [vox-tech] vintage lilo interface

[Reverend EvvL X]

Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

>hi there,
>
>awhile ago, the lilo interface on woody changed.  these days, it clears the
>screen and shows a red menu of all the kernels that are available to boot.
>
>i'd like to change this back to the original "vintage" interface, which was
>just plain text, no screen clears, no red menus.
>
>anyone have any idea if the old interface is still available?
>

Peter,
   I think its where your /boot/boot.b is symlinked to. if you getting 
the menu then its the
boot-menu.b just re-symlink it to the boot-text.b file.

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[vox-tech] optimizing your debian system for athlon/pentium and above

[Peter Jay Salzman]

gabe, i think this is what you were talking about.

also, check out the page on debian planet that's listed here.

pete


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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:43:24 -0800 (PST)
From: George Dancheff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rebuilding Debian from source 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reading that discussion 
http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=521
I've assembled a really simple script trying to
implement the apt-get -b source-upgrade function
(since apt has not such feature, but I don't think
this is a lack of functionality, but anyway). I'm not
sure if they will wedge something like that in the
future versions of APT. 
It has not been  tested at all, just in case if
someone is interested in.


#!/bin/bash
# store sources in some temporary dir
SRCDIR=SOURCES

if [ -d $SRCDIR ]; then
 cd $SRCDIR
 # clean it ?
 rm -rf *
else
  mkdir $SRCDIR
 cd $SRCDIR
fi 

# let's see what's new in the archive, 
# make sure you have deb-src lines in sources.list
apt-get update

# get local selections  
dpkg --get-selections | grep -w 'install' | \
awk '{print $1}' > ../selections.tmp
# fetch them 1 by 1 from the archive and build
for I in `cat ../selections.tmp`; do

# we need to prepare Build-Depends (from control file)

# to satisfy the compile conditions
apt-get build-deb $I;
# now it's safe to build the package in question
apt-get -b source $I; 

# MAKE SURE NOT TO SPAM HDD !!!
# clean sources after each build ???
rm -rf * 
done




Please don't complain to me if encounter bugs, I don't
care if all your data go to /dev/null , use it at your
own risk :) . And of cource it would be nice if
someone spend some time to enhanced it :)))

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[vox-tech] possible *serious* vulnerability in openssh

[Peter Jay Salzman]

i guess this is more along the lines of windows users sending each other
virus alerts...   :)

basically, the guy explains that if the rumor is true, there is remote
exploit that obtains root via sshd.


http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=100696253318793&w=2

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] vintage lilo interface

[Peter Jay Salzman]

hi mark,

i did think of this, but unfortunately there's no "message" directive 
in /etc/lilo.conf.  i tend to eliminate stuff that that from my system.

it's been so long since the change took place that i hardly remember what the
old interface looked like.

pete 


begin: Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quote
> Perhaps it's using the "message" option?  From `man lilo.conf`:
> 
>message= message-file
>   specifies a file containing a message that is  dis-
>   played  before  the boot prompt. No message is dis-
>   played while  waiting  for  a  shifting  key  after
>   printing  "LILO ". In the message, the FF character
>   ([Ctrl L]) clears the local screen. The size of the
>   message  file  is  limited  to 65535 bytes. The map
>   file has to be  rebuilt  if  the  message  file  is
>   changed or moved.
> 
> The message file understands ANSI escape sequences for changing colors, so
> that would explain the red text.
> 
> On my system, LILO says "Welcome to Mark's system.  Please don't do
> anything I wouldn't do."
> 
> -Mark
> 
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> > hi there,
> >
> > awhile ago, the lilo interface on woody changed.  these days, it clears the
> > screen and shows a red menu of all the kernels that are available to boot.
> >
> > i'd like to change this back to the original "vintage" interface, which was
> > just plain text, no screen clears, no red menus.
> >
> > anyone have any idea if the old interface is still available?
> >
> > pete
> >
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Re: [vox-tech] vintage lilo interface

[Mark K. Kim]

Perhaps it's using the "message" option?  From `man lilo.conf`:

   message= message-file
  specifies a file containing a message that is  dis-
  played  before  the boot prompt. No message is dis-
  played while  waiting  for  a  shifting  key  after
  printing  "LILO ". In the message, the FF character
  ([Ctrl L]) clears the local screen. The size of the
  message  file  is  limited  to 65535 bytes. The map
  file has to be  rebuilt  if  the  message  file  is
  changed or moved.

The message file understands ANSI escape sequences for changing colors, so
that would explain the red text.

On my system, LILO says "Welcome to Mark's system.  Please don't do
anything I wouldn't do."

-Mark

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> hi there,
>
> awhile ago, the lilo interface on woody changed.  these days, it clears the
> screen and shows a red menu of all the kernels that are available to boot.
>
> i'd like to change this back to the original "vintage" interface, which was
> just plain text, no screen clears, no red menus.
>
> anyone have any idea if the old interface is still available?
>
> pete
>
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[vox-tech] vintage lilo interface

[Peter Jay Salzman]

hi there,

awhile ago, the lilo interface on woody changed.  these days, it clears the
screen and shows a red menu of all the kernels that are available to boot.

i'd like to change this back to the original "vintage" interface, which was
just plain text, no screen clears, no red menus.

anyone have any idea if the old interface is still available?

pete

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