Re: [vox-tech] usb woes
turns out that USB hard drives are accessed via scsi device files. never knew that. well, supposedly they do. someone had one at the IF today, but we never did get it working... pete begin Erik Mullinix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im so used to suse. It allows me to check on devices like windows.. only it works. Disreguard my babble please As im trying to find the info i had to back it up and it isnt getting found. I was using an olderversion/kernal. And wonder if this version has changed anything. ;-( Im not a programmer. so please excuse me when I dont do things like you. - Original Message - From: Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [vox-tech] usb woes begin Erik Mullinix [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I went through the device management for my mouse (usb) and tried my scanner. it was coming up under the scsi device list. but unnaccessable innicialy.Did you know suse has a nice scanner utility ? device management? what's device management? are we talking about windows or linux? there appears to be no evidence that the kernel is mis-managing the devices. at least, none that i can see. maybe this is a windows (or suse) thing? i dunno. it's just hard to believe the linux would misregister hardware. especially hardware plugged into completely different ports. and I dont have it overclocked. I think there is a problem with the chipset controls for the pci buss. wierd. did you know that there were bad problems of people selling over rated celeron chips? apic errors are very rare. except when a CPU is run at a speed faster than its rating. i forget the details, but there are websites out there that can tell you if you have a mislabelled celeron. even fox news ran a story on this about 3 years ago. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] usb woes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:45:36AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: turns out that USB hard drives are accessed via scsi device files. Yep. My CF card reader (which connects via USB) appears as /dev/sda1 -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] usb woes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:57:12AM -0800, nbs wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:45:36AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: turns out that USB hard drives are accessed via scsi device files. Yep. My CF card reader (which connects via USB) appears as /dev/sda1 PS - Interestingly, the CF cards themselves appear as IDE drives on the Zaurus (eg, /dev/hda1 :) ) (And the SD card appears as /dev/mmcda1 ... and the 'RAM' filesystem appears as /dev/mtdblock1 ) Wacky wacky :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] ssh remote commands
I'm trying to set up remote access to the PC on my LAN which has the Rio MP3 player connected to it. Unfortunately, the command which talks to it, rio, requires root access. As an exercise in safety, I'd like to set up password-less access to the '/usr/bin/rio' command on that system via SSH. Unfortunately, I just noticed this in sshd's man page: command=command Specifies that the command is executed whenever this key is used for authentication. The command supplied by the user (if any) is ignored. ... ^^^ This means that I can't do anything like: ssh root@zen rio -d ssh root@zen rio -za ssh root@zen rio -u somefile.mp3 Now, I can set up 'sudo' to let particular users access the 'rio' command, but unfortunately, unless you've ran the command very recently (eg, in the last 5 minutes!), they're forced to enter their sudo'ing password. ie: ssh myself@zen sudo rio -d will ask me for 'myself's password. What's worse is, since this is via an 'ssh' command execution, when I type my password, it's echoed back! Looking at these issues, and the fact that one will need to be scp'ing files back and forth to the host with the Rio connected to it ANYWAY, I'm thinking ssh or ssh/sudo isn't going to be what I need. I guess I should look into riofs and see if I can do some sort of weird double remote mounting. Or somehting. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ssh remote commands
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:19:43AM -0800, nbs wrote: snip Looking at these issues, and the fact that one will need to be scp'ing files back and forth to the host with the Rio connected to it ANYWAY, I'm thinking ssh or ssh/sudo isn't going to be what I need. I guess I should look into riofs and see if I can do some sort of weird double remote mounting. Or somehting. :) Bah! That won't work, either. :^( http://www.cs.stedwards.edu/~hazel/rio/ states: ... at the moment, riofs is read-only ... :^( Any other suggestions? (Henry's lpr idea was interesting, but I don't think it'll handle deleting stuff.) -bill! glad that USB and CF/SD cards are becoming more the norm, and bizarre printer port access to extremely proprietary flash file systems which break your SmartMedia to the point where you need to find a Windows box to run some odd reformatter so that you can continue to use the card in your digital camera... gasp are becoming less the norm ;) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ssh remote commands
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:19:43AM -0800, nbs wrote: I'm trying to set up remote access to the PC on my LAN which has the Rio MP3 player connected to it. Unfortunately, the command which talks to it, rio, requires root access. As an exercise in safety, I'd like to set up password-less access to the '/usr/bin/rio' command on that system via SSH. Unfortunately, I just noticed Can you clear the SUID bit and add the device to fstab with user-mountable permissions? Maybe even use a chrooted mount-point? Just thinking out loud... -- BWAHAHAAHAHahhahahahaah. No, no, no, said the little chicken. -- gcc comment ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] module loading at suse kernel initialization and usb woes
hey erik, yeah. not crazy. in fact, i learned quite a bit about usb at the installfest. pretty amazing we had this conversation the day before i got to see it in action. :) the deal is that the device itself isn't recognized as scsi. the scsi system doesn't register the device, usb does. however, the scsi system provides the transport layer between the kernel and usb. so a usb hard drive is registered by usb-storage.o but is accessed with scsi-ide (i think i'm remembering this correctly). so the drive is supposed to be accessed via /dev/sd*. we didn't get his drive working, but that's because usb didn't recognize the device. i think if we upgraded his kernel, we could've gotten it to work. oh -- question about suse. i wanted the guy's usb-storage module to load on boot. on most systems i've seen, /etc/modules contains a lis of modules that are to be loaded at boot time. i've seen this on debian, LRP, LEAF and i think redhat. i tried this under suse (suse didn't have an /etc/modules so i created one). however, my /etc/modules was ignored by suse. so i'd like to know -- under suse, if you want a module to be loaded when the kernel first boots, how do you do it? pete begin Erik Mullinix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool Im not a complete nutcase. Well Not complete. Dangit.. I missed Sundays IF. witch was on calander. oki back to complete nutcase. Hesp ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ssh remote commands
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:25:42AM -0800, Charles Polisher wrote: Can you clear the SUID bit and add the device to fstab with user-mountable permissions? Maybe even use a chrooted mount-point? Just thinking out loud... It doesn't access the rio via a /dev/ device. It accesses it _directly_. (It took me a while, some stracing, and finally some reading of the rio software homepage, to remember this.) :^/ -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
