Re: [vox-tech] devfs and mkisofs, don't have permission to create multisession cd's

2004-01-31 Thread Samuel N. Merritt
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:04:02PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote:
 I have a backup script that I run periodically (and I haven't run it
 in two whole weeks), and I was trying to run it today but since having
 switched to devfs, the permissions on the cd drive's device file seem
 to have changed (probably as a result of the switch), so that I can't
 read the file system. As a result, I can't add new sessions to a CD
 because a permissions error keeps mkisofs from reading the previous
 sessions on the CD.
 
 Devfs complains about /dev/sg0
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l /dev/sg0
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2004-01-30 07:22 /dev/sg0
 - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l `readlink -f /dev/sg0`
 crw-r--r--1 root cdrom 21,   0 1969-12-31 16:00
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
 
 Does anybody know what the correct permissions should be, or how to
 fix this problem?

I'd set the device to 664 and make sure that the user running the
backup script is in the cdrom group. 


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Re: [vox-tech] SQL selecting distinct from multiple index tables

2004-01-31 Thread Foo Lim
select distinct
Organizations.OID, Organizations.Name, Organizations.Acronym
from Organizations o
where o.OID in
  (select OrgID from OrgDocs
   union
   select OrgID from OrgProjects);

Build subqueries first, thereby avoiding the full table joins.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, David Siedband wrote:

 I have two index tables the associate Organizations with documents and 
 projects.  I'm trying to write a query that returns all the 
 organizations that are associated with either a project or document.
 
 To select distinct organization that are either associated with a 
 Document or a Project, I'm using SQL that looks like this.
 
 select distinct Organizations.OID , Organizations.Name , 
 Organizations.Acronym
 from OrgDocs , Organizations
 where OrgDocs.OrgID = Organizations.OID
 
 select distinct Organizations.OID , Organizations.Name , 
 Organizations.Acronym
 from OrgProjects , Organizations
 where OrgProjects.OrgID = Organizations.OID
 
 Any suggestions on how to combine this into a single query?
 
 thx,
 
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Re: [vox-tech] devfs and mkisofs, don't have permission to create multisession cd's

2004-01-31 Thread Ken Herron
--On Saturday, January 31, 2004 01:12:51 AM -0800 Samuel N. Merritt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:04:02PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote:
I have a backup script that I run periodically (and I haven't run it
in two whole weeks), and I was trying to run it today but since having
switched to devfs, the permissions on the cd drive's device file seem
to have changed (probably as a result of the switch), so that I can't
read the file system. As a result, I can't add new sessions to a CD
because a permissions error keeps mkisofs from reading the previous
sessions on the CD.
Devfs complains about /dev/sg0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l /dev/sg0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2004-01-30 07:22 /dev/sg0
- scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l `readlink -f /dev/sg0`
crw-r--r--1 root cdrom 21,   0 1969-12-31 16:00
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic


I'd set the device to 664 and make sure that the user running the
backup script is in the cdrom group.
Some systems will change the ownership on various devices to match the 
user logged in on the console, then set the ownership back when the user 
logs out. The idea is to let the person sitting in front of the computer 
have access to the cd-roms, sound device, etc. See if you have a file 
named console.perms in /etc/security or some similar location. You 
should be able to adjust it to include the scsi generic devices.

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Re: [vox-tech] SQL selecting distinct from multiple index tables (solution)

2004-01-31 Thread Ted Deppner
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:04:35PM -0800, David Siedband wrote:
 ahh, I just got this to work.  Here's the query I used (MySQL 3.x)
 
 select distinct Organizations.OID , Organizations.Name , 
 Organizations.Acronym
 from OrgDocs , OrgProjects , Organizations
 where (OrgDocs.OrgID = Organizations.OID) or (OrgProjects.OrgID = 
 Organizations.OID)
 
 still interested in other ways of doing this though

If you haven't already, try prepending an explain on the front of that
select query to see how expensive it's going to be.  You can then
examine with useful data the expense of various methods.  Sometimes two
queries are faster than one query (ie build an index table, then do a
simple select rather than a single complex select).

You might also try the query with some precalculated index tables, ie:
create temporary table tmp select distinct OID from OrgDocs;
replace into tmp select distinct OID from OrgProjects;
// with mysql 4.x you could use UNION and do one
// create...select...union...select
select Organizations.OID, Name, Acronym from Organizations, tmp where
(tmp.OrgID = Organizations.OID);

Depending on your table sizes a 'alter table tmp add key (OID)' might
help, or alternately using a left join may be faster (not sure on this
though):

select Organizations.OID, Name, Acronym from tmp left join Organizations
using (OID);

This presumes that OIDs in OrgDocs and OrgProjects always have matching
keys in Organizations.

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[vox-tech] Can YAST create a FAT32 Partition?

2004-01-31 Thread Robert G. Scofield
Thanks to those of you who told me I need a new hard drive.

I'd like to create a dual boot system on the new hard disk (which I haven't 
purchased yet).  I'd like to do all of the partitioning from YAST.  According 
to the YAST documentation YAST can delete FAT32 partitions.  YAST can resize 
FAT32 partitions.  But the documentation doesn't say whether YAST can create 
a FAT32 partition.  The documentation assumes that one is partitioning to add 
Linux to a hard drive where Windows already exists.

Does anybody know if YAST can create a FAT32 partition?

Thank you.

Bob

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Re: [vox-tech] Can YAST create a FAT32 Partition?

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Rogers
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 13:28:25PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:
 Thanks to those of you who told me I need a new hard drive.
 
 I'd like to create a dual boot system on the new hard disk (which I haven't 
 purchased yet).  I'd like to do all of the partitioning from YAST.  According 
 to the YAST documentation YAST can delete FAT32 partitions.  YAST can resize 
 FAT32 partitions.  But the documentation doesn't say whether YAST can create 
 a FAT32 partition.  The documentation assumes that one is partitioning to add 
 Linux to a hard drive where Windows already exists.
 
 Does anybody know if YAST can create a FAT32 partition?

I don't use SuSE, so I can't answer the specific YAST question...but
every partition tool I've used has been able to create a FAT32
partition. You also need to be able to format it (which is different
from creating a partition and marking it's type) but that is generally
pretty simple too.

The big gotcha comes when you decide to install Windows. It's generally
best to install Windows before you install Linux on a dual boot system
because Windows will blindly write to your MBR, overwriting Lilo or
Grub. Keep a boot disk handy if that's the way you want to go.
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Re: [vox-tech] Can YAST create a FAT32 Partition?

2004-01-31 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

 Thanks to those of you who told me I need a new hard drive.
 
 I'd like to create a dual boot system on the new hard disk (which I haven't 
 purchased yet).  I'd like to do all of the partitioning from YAST.  According 
 to the YAST documentation YAST can delete FAT32 partitions.  YAST can resize 
 FAT32 partitions.  But the documentation doesn't say whether YAST can create 
 a FAT32 partition.  The documentation assumes that one is partitioning to add 
 Linux to a hard drive where Windows already exists.
 
 Does anybody know if YAST can create a FAT32 partition?

I don't know if it can, but in general, this is not really a good idea.

a) Even if it can, if you plan to make a dual boot you are better off
having the OS that will use the os format the partition it will run in.

b) Windows tends to demolish existing partitions.  Pro versions are
starting to provide options for installing in arbitrary partitions, but
home versions are still pretty ruthless.  This means installing Windows
first is almost always the best approach.

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Re: [vox-tech] devfs and mkisofs, don't have permission to create multisession cd's

2004-01-31 Thread Ken Bloom
I don't know what was actually wrong with the permissions after all (I was in the 
cdrom group, and mkisofs had a devfs file entry to make it work, but it didn't 
regardless.)

I finally made it work by changing the command I used to invoke mkisofs from the 
option -M0,0,0 to the option -M /dev/cdrom (which is a symlink to /dev/cdroms/cdrom0) 
and that made it work

On 2004.01.31 07:52, Ken Herron wrote:
 --On Saturday, January 31, 2004 01:12:51 AM -0800 Samuel N. Merritt 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:04:02PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote:
  I have a backup script that I run periodically (and I haven't run it
  in two whole weeks), and I was trying to run it today but since having
  switched to devfs, the permissions on the cd drive's device file seem
  to have changed (probably as a result of the switch), so that I can't
  read the file system. As a result, I can't add new sessions to a CD
  because a permissions error keeps mkisofs from reading the previous
  sessions on the CD.
 
  Devfs complains about /dev/sg0
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l /dev/sg0
  lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   36 2004-01-30 07:22 /dev/sg0
  - scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]% ls -l `readlink -f /dev/sg0`
  crw-r--r--1 root cdrom 21,   0 1969-12-31 16:00
  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
 
 
  I'd set the device to 664 and make sure that the user running the
  backup script is in the cdrom group.
 
 Some systems will change the ownership on various devices to match the 
 user logged in on the console, then set the ownership back when the user 
 logs out. The idea is to let the person sitting in front of the computer 
 have access to the cd-roms, sound device, etc. See if you have a file 
 named console.perms in /etc/security or some similar location. You 
 should be able to adjust it to include the scsi generic devices.
 
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Re: [vox-tech] Can YAST create a FAT32 Partition?

2004-01-31 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Saturday 31 January 2004 13:59, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
 
 a) Even if it can, if you plan to make a dual boot you are better off
 having the OS that will use the os format the partition it will run in.

 This means installing Windows
 first is almost always the best approach.

Okay then I'll do it that way.

Thank you and thanks also to Rob Rogers.

Bob

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RE: [vox-tech] Can YAST create a FAT32 Partition?

2004-01-31 Thread Gururaj U
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On Saturday 31 January 2004 13:59, Jeff Newmiller wrote:
 
 a) Even if it can, if you plan to make a dual boot you are better off 
 having the OS that will use the os format the partition it will run 
 in.

 This means installing Windows
 first is almost always the best approach.

Okay then I'll do it that way.

Thank you and thanks also to Rob Rogers.

Bob

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