Re: [vox-tech] building an AMD MP system
On Sunday 01 February 2004 10:51 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, is the AMD 760 MPX the newest athlon MP chipset around? it appears to be over 3 years old. Hmm, has it been that long? :-) Yeah I think that's all there is. I know Asus and Tyan have such boards, but their USB is only 1.1 in both cases. Tyan also has some new dual AMD Opteron boards; 64-bit is where all the AMD interest seems to be now. -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. it'll happen to me once every 2 weeks - 1 month, so it's pretty infrequent. i can get around it by printing whatever i want to an bitmap file, and using gimp to print the file. but that's kind of a rotten way to do things, and the quality stinks compared to nice raster postscript. pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? This sounds very similar to something I've experienced with an HP 4050, a networked double-sided laserjet in my department's computer lab. It will hang with the data led flashing. Since other people use it, I can't wait around so I cancel the job. It seems to happen mostly with journal article pdfs with 3D graphics. Strangely, I can print them just fine to a HP 4100 laserjet (single-sided). the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. Yep, that's my guess to. Not sure how to fix it. Next time I might try bitmapping just the pages with the 3d grahpics to confirm my hypothesis. Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
On Sun 01 Feb 04, 2:12 PM, Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? This sounds very similar to something I've experienced with an HP 4050, a networked double-sided laserjet in my department's computer lab. It will hang with the data led flashing. Since other people use it, I can't wait around so I cancel the job. It seems to happen mostly with journal article pdfs with 3D graphics. Strangely, I can print them just fine to a HP 4100 laserjet (single-sided). the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. Yep, that's my guess too. Not sure how to fix it. Next time I might try bitmapping just the pages with the 3d grahpics to confirm my hypothesis. Jonathan jon, please let me know. i'm interested in hearing what happens, although i strongly suspect it'll work for bitmaps. i have some more information to share: * it seems to happen with postscript more often than other things. i can't recall it ever happening for bitmaps. * recently, i was trying to print something with gnumeric (which like MUCH better than open office) and was having this problem. it just wouldn't print. it did print from within gimp when i created a ps and pdf file. also, i loaded the spreadsheet with openoffice, and it printed fine from within open office! i think that's a strong indication that there must be broken postscript being generated by some applications. * rhonda reminded me of a very interesting fact. she was trying to print a normal text file, and the same thing was happening. she couldn't print the text file. i fiddled and fiddled and fiddled. spent the entire afternoon at it, and was able to determine that the problem was a percent sign before a number at the left column of the file. without that percent sign in the text document, the file printed fine. my belief is that the percent sign was tricking the printer's PCL interpreter into thinking the document was postscript, which of course it wasn't. not even close. not hard to imagine why the printer would give up. now, that last story doesn't really say why the printer will give up on certain postscript files, but i guess something similar must be happening. i recall reading there are many variants of postscript. even some variants that have been semi-broken on purpose, like mathematica's version of postscript. i wish i could get some definite answers (and better, solutions) about this. :( pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
On Sunday 01 February 2004 01:09 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. it'll happen to me once every 2 weeks - 1 month, so it's pretty infrequent. i can get around it by printing whatever i want to an bitmap file, and using gimp to print the file. but that's kind of a rotten way to do things, and the quality stinks compared to nice raster postscript. pete Are you sure when you print to bitmap that its really printing PCL? On the 4 series printeres(4si/4si MX) all graphics were sent as PS rather than PCL. Do you have multiple systems managing the printer? Also, as I recall, there should be a way to dump the PS error log and see what is happening... (You could on a 4si via one of the menus) Mike -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Wenk ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: [...] * rhonda reminded me of a very interesting fact. she was trying to print a normal text file, and the same thing was happening. she couldn't print the text file. i fiddled and fiddled and fiddled. spent the entire afternoon at it, and was able to determine that the problem was a percent sign before a number at the left column of the file. without that percent sign in the text document, the file printed fine. my belief is that the percent sign was tricking the printer's PCL interpreter into thinking the document was postscript, which of course it wasn't. not even close. not hard to imagine why the printer would give up. The text file problem is easy: append a FF (0xc) to the text file. I would not expect this problem to affect postscript, though, because pages are ejected as a result of postscript commands, not control characters. --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
On Sun 01 Feb 04, 5:36 PM, Michael Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sunday 01 February 2004 01:09 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. it'll happen to me once every 2 weeks - 1 month, so it's pretty infrequent. i can get around it by printing whatever i want to an bitmap file, and using gimp to print the file. but that's kind of a rotten way to do things, and the quality stinks compared to nice raster postscript. pete Are you sure when you print to bitmap that its really printing PCL? no, i'm not. printers have always been a big mystery to me. how would you find out? On the 4 series printeres(4si/4si MX) all graphics were sent as PS rather than PCL. Do you have multiple systems managing the printer? no -- just linux. but it gets shared by a bunch of different operating systems. Also, as I recall, there should be a way to dump the PS error log and see what is happening... (You could on a 4si via one of the menus) Mike for real? i'll have to google for this. that would be _really_ useful! pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
On Sunday 01 February 2004 06:16 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Sun 01 Feb 04, 5:36 PM, Michael Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sunday 01 February 2004 01:09 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. it'll happen to me once every 2 weeks - 1 month, so it's pretty infrequent. i can get around it by printing whatever i want to an bitmap file, and using gimp to print the file. but that's kind of a rotten way to do things, and the quality stinks compared to nice raster postscript. pete Are you sure when you print to bitmap that its really printing PCL? no, i'm not. printers have always been a big mystery to me. how would you find out? On the 4 series printeres(4si/4si MX) all graphics were sent as PS rather than PCL. Do you have multiple systems managing the printer? no -- just linux. but it gets shared by a bunch of different operating systems. Also, as I recall, there should be a way to dump the PS error log and see what is happening... (You could on a 4si via one of the menus) Mike for real? i'll have to google for this. that would be _really_ useful! pete Well, I admit I havent messed with printers in several years, there was a menu option(PS Menu maybe) that let you dump the error log. Also, have it print a test page as this will show installed personalities. I have never had a linux box control a jet direct printer(or is this parallel/usb?) , so don't have much experience with that. At OSU we had two main problems, one was people would enscript an already postscript file, the other was people would force PCL when they wanted postscript (-o pcl) I don't really remember the problem you are seeing, but I could have a faulty memory, or it could not have affected HP 4 series printers. Mike -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Wenk ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
RE: [vox-tech] building an AMD MP system
Pete, I have had some problems with the Asus board: http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7m266-d/overview.htm I purchased one without the one board SCSI. It proceeded to destroy two different IDE drives, and then could not get a SCSI controller working. I ended up getting one with an integrated SCSI controller and it ran Red Hat 7.0 reasonably well. For some reason it was always abit quirky. I never got all the bugs out. One note, it needs registered RAM to run. Dan (Sorry I am not more descriptive, but I am working with one hand, the other is in a cast. If you would like more description, let me know.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vox-tech- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Jay Salzman Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vox-tech] building an AMD MP system hi all, is the AMD 760 MPX the newest athlon MP chipset around? it appears to be over 3 years old. via, ali and sis haven't come up with anything newer? that's kind of hard to believe! i'd like to run dual MP 2800's with barton core. udma 133 or higher. built-in usb2.0 would be nice (although i understand that usb2 cards are dirt cheap). any mobo recommendations? pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] postscript printer: light goes on, nobody home.
That happens to me, too, sometimes, with LaserJet 1100. But I can eject the page by depressing the button on the printer (it only has one button) once. My HP Deskjet sometimes did that, too, and I could eject the page by pressing one of the buttons... not sure which one... maybe either one (it has two.) What printer configuration tool (if any) do you use? Generally there's an option to send force-eject the last page after it's printed. It may print an extra blank page sometimes, but it's worth testing. Alternatively, you can write a program that sends a formfeed character to the printer, and run that program when the printer gets stuck. Printing another page (of anything) after the printer getting stuck might help, too. Good luck! -Mark On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: hi all, i have an HP laserjet 6MP. it works great on linux. it's shared with other linux and windows systems. no problems. well, almost no problems. every blue moon, i'll queue something with lpr, and the printer LEDs will flash like they normally do to indicate i'm receiving data. but after the data gets trasfered to the printer, the data LED and ready LED will remain on. my printer manual says this state is called: data is in the printer memory (form feed) and says to press the go button to start printing. i hit the go button, but nothing prints. eventually, the data LED goes out indicating the printer is in the ready for printing state. the job is gone. it's like the printer receives data but just gives up on printing it. this happens on all the operating systems in the house: debian, suse, redhat, win2k and win98. has anybody seen this happen before? any guesses as to what causes it? the only thing i can think of is perhaps a flaw in the postscript or perhaps the printer's postscript interpreter. it'll happen to me once every 2 weeks - 1 month, so it's pretty infrequent. i can get around it by printing whatever i want to an bitmap file, and using gimp to print the file. but that's kind of a rotten way to do things, and the quality stinks compared to nice raster postscript. pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Mark K. Kim AIM: markus kimius Homepage: http://www.cbreak.org/ Xanga: http://www.xanga.com/vindaci Friendster: http://www.friendster.com/user.jsp?id=13046 PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE PGP key available on the homepage ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
