Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-03 Thread Jay Strauss
Bill Kendrick wrote:
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:14:34AM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote:
 

It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.  Can't I do cut and paste 
without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't have a keyboard shortcut.
   

It IS a little bizarre sometimes. :^/
You can add a copy keyboard shortcut to Konsole by going to
Settings-Configure Shortcuts...
 

I should have looked at that, I'd been playing with other things on the 
settings menu

There's a Copy command in there which, by default, has no keyboard shortcut.
You could also do the slightly-tedious (but understandable since this is
a terminal app):
 [Alt]
 pause...  (Session menu at the top will become selected)
 [Right]   (to move to the Edit menu)
 [Down](to 'pull down' the Edit menu;
Copy is first, so will be selected)
 [Enter]   (to choose Edit)
 

Yes, I'd consider that a bit tedious :)
Text selection (highlighting) in Konsole and then middle-click pasting
SHOULD work, though.  But it does seem there's a difference between
pasting the highlighted selection and pasting something you've Edit-Copy'd
 

Yep, I've discovered that.  middle mousing is different than 
copy/paste.  I'm just getting used to this, coming from windows where 
everything goes to the 1 clipboard

BTW, quick example...  I can set [Alt]+[C] to be 'Copy' in my Konsole.
 

However, that makes it impossible (or difficult, at best) to send
an Alt-C sequence to a program I'm running _in_ the terminal.
Emacs, for example, seems to use Alt-C to capitalize words.
('foo foo foo' becomes 'Foo Foo Foo' if I hit Alt-C three times)
So be sure to pick some key sequence you don't need in the apps you'll be
running.  (Like [Alt]+[Ctrl]+[Shift]+[C] or something wacky :^) )
Good luck!
 

Thanks Bill !
Jay
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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-03 Thread Jay Strauss
Ken Herron wrote:
--On Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:14:34 AM -0500 Jay Strauss 
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If I want to cut and paste, I have to go to the menu-edit-copy then I
can paste to FireFox.  It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.
Can't I do cut and paste without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't
have a keyboard shortcut.

Actually, yes, there are two clipboards. See 
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html. Many apps will support 
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, and Ctrl-V as shortcuts for the menu copy, cut, and 
paste commands. But of course for konsole those keystrokes go to the 
terminal session.

Thanks for the link.  I've read it, and kinda understand it even.
On top of that, if you're using KDE then you're probably running 
klipper. Klipper takes over some of the clipboard operation, so 
depending on how that's configured, things may work differently for you.

I'll have to read about klipper now to
Thanks
Jay
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[vox-tech] alsa configuration

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Schmalenberger
list,
I have been trying to get the sound to work in my computer. At boot when
the ALSA mixer settings would be loaded, it fails and says to manually
use alsactl restore. When I do that, it says alsactl:
load_state:1134: No soundcards found When I google on that, peoples
problems mostly seem to be conflicts between OSS and ALSA when they have
both installed at the same time. As far as I know, the only OSS stuff I
have is the emulation in ALSA. Here is what lsmod says:
Module  Size  Used by
ds 15784  4 
thermal10352  0 
fan 2796  0 
button  4696  0 
processor  14160  1 thermal
ac  3308  0 
battery 7660  0 
snd_es1938 21832  0 
snd_pcm_oss59912  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19904  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm99492  2 snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9768  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib   10112  1 snd_es1938
snd_timer  24644  2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep   8416  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 7104  1 snd_es1938
snd_rawmidi22784  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  7496  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd59972  10
snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   7328  1 snd
8139too20736  0 
yenta_socket   18656  1 
pcmcia_core62376  2 ds,yenta_socket
uhci_hcd   30348  0 
af_packet  16872  0 

So what should I do? Do I really have some OSS thing that is causing a
problem for ALSA? Do I have all the right ALSA modules? Thanks.
Nick
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[vox-tech] SMTP problem with cs.ucdavis.edu

2004-10-03 Thread Rod Roark
Could someone try this for me?

telnet cs.ucdavis.edu 25

You're supposed to get something like this example:

  $ telnet smtp.ucdavis.edu 25
  Trying 169.237.104.195...
  Connected to smtp.ucdavis.edu.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  220 warsaw.ucdavis.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.10/8.12.9/it-defang-5.2.0; Sun, 3 Oct 
2004 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT)

However with cs.ucdavis.edu, I get a connection but no 220
line.  As a result there's some LUGOD mailing list mail
that's not being delivered.  I'm wondering if it's a
firewall issue.

Any other insight as to what's going on would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,

-- Rod
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Re: [vox-tech] alsa configuration

2004-10-03 Thread Jonathan Stickel
What distribution are you using?  In gentoo I have to edit 
/etc/modules.d/alsa for my specific sound card.  Maybe you have a 
similar config file.

Jonathan
Nick Schmalenberger wrote:
list,
I have been trying to get the sound to work in my computer. At boot when
the ALSA mixer settings would be loaded, it fails and says to manually
use alsactl restore. When I do that, it says alsactl:
load_state:1134: No soundcards found When I google on that, peoples
problems mostly seem to be conflicts between OSS and ALSA when they have
both installed at the same time. As far as I know, the only OSS stuff I
have is the emulation in ALSA. Here is what lsmod says:
Module  Size  Used by
ds 15784  4 
thermal10352  0 
fan 2796  0 
button  4696  0 
processor  14160  1 thermal
ac  3308  0 
battery 7660  0 
snd_es1938 21832  0 
snd_pcm_oss59912  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19904  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm99492  2 snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9768  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib   10112  1 snd_es1938
snd_timer  24644  2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep   8416  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 7104  1 snd_es1938
snd_rawmidi22784  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  7496  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd59972  10
snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   7328  1 snd
8139too20736  0 
yenta_socket   18656  1 
pcmcia_core62376  2 ds,yenta_socket
uhci_hcd   30348  0 
af_packet  16872  0 

So what should I do? Do I really have some OSS thing that is causing a
problem for ALSA? Do I have all the right ALSA modules? Thanks.
Nick
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Re: [vox-tech] SMTP problem with cs.ucdavis.edu

2004-10-03 Thread Mark K. Kim
From USC, I get this:

  aludra:~/telnet cs.ucdavis.edu 25
  Trying 169.237.6.6...
  Connected to cs.ucdavis.edu.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  220 baton.cs.ucdavis.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.10/8.12.10; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:02:07 
-0700 (PDT)

Maybe try connecting to baton.cs.ucdavis.edu directly?

-Mark


On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, Rod Roark wrote:

 Could someone try this for me?

 telnet cs.ucdavis.edu 25

 You're supposed to get something like this example:

   $ telnet smtp.ucdavis.edu 25
   Trying 169.237.104.195...
   Connected to smtp.ucdavis.edu.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   220 warsaw.ucdavis.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.10/8.12.9/it-defang-5.2.0; Sun, 3 Oct 
 2004 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT)

 However with cs.ucdavis.edu, I get a connection but no 220
 line.  As a result there's some LUGOD mailing list mail
 that's not being delivered.  I'm wondering if it's a
 firewall issue.

 Any other insight as to what's going on would be much
 appreciated.

 Thanks,

 -- Rod
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Re: [vox-tech] alsa configuration

2004-10-03 Thread Jay Strauss
Nick Schmalenberger wrote:
list,
I have been trying to get the sound to work in my computer. At boot when
the ALSA mixer settings would be loaded, it fails and says to manually
use alsactl restore. When I do that, it says alsactl:
load_state:1134: No soundcards found When I google on that, peoples
problems mostly seem to be conflicts between OSS and ALSA when they have
both installed at the same time. As far as I know, the only OSS stuff I
have is the emulation in ALSA. Here is what lsmod says:
Module  Size  Used by
ds 15784  4 
thermal10352  0 
fan 2796  0 
button  4696  0 
processor  14160  1 thermal
ac  3308  0 
battery 7660  0 
snd_es1938 21832  0 
snd_pcm_oss59912  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19904  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm99492  2 snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9768  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib   10112  1 snd_es1938
snd_timer  24644  2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep   8416  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 7104  1 snd_es1938
snd_rawmidi22784  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  7496  2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi
snd59972  10
snd_es1938,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   7328  1 snd
8139too20736  0 
yenta_socket   18656  1 
pcmcia_core62376  2 ds,yenta_socket
uhci_hcd   30348  0 
af_packet  16872  0 

So what should I do? Do I really have some OSS thing that is causing a
problem for ALSA? Do I have all the right ALSA modules? Thanks.
Nick
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I had a problem with this too.  In my case I needed to tell discover not 
to load the OSS modules for my card.

I did this like:
echo skip i810_audio  /etc/discover.conf
Maybe someone else on this list can tell you the driver to skip
Jay
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Re: [vox-tech] alsa configuration

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Schmalenberger
list,
My distribution is Debian. I found a page on the ALSA website for my
sound chip with some lines to go in my /etc/modules.conf:
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-es1938
# module options should go here

# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

# card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
Apparently with Debian they are supposed to be put into
/etc/modutils/file and then the update-modules utility is used to insert
them into /etc/modules.conf. I also have two files about sound
in /etc/modprobe.d/ , ./alsa-base and ./sound:

gwaihir2:/etc/modprobe.d# cat ./alsa-base 
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm 
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer 
/sbin/modprobe snd-mixer-oss
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq 
/sbin/modprobe snd-seq-oss

gwaihir2:/etc/modprobe.d# cat ./sound 
alias snd-card-0 snd-es1938
alias sound-slot-0 snd-es1938

.
When I run alsaconf, it says it has detected my card and is going to
rewrite /etc/modprobe.d/sound , but then there is a message on stderr
saying: /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1061: No soundcards found I
am sort of confused about the differences between /etc/modprobe.d/ and
/etc/modutils/ . Are they just different ways that different distros do
the same thing and I have some combination of both? I imagine that that
could be causing my problem. If so, what is the solution? Thanks.
Nick
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Re: [vox-tech] SMTP problem with cs.ucdavis.edu

2004-10-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:27:38 -0700
Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could someone try this for me?
 
 telnet cs.ucdavis.edu 25
 
 You're supposed to get something like this example:
 
   $ telnet smtp.ucdavis.edu 25
   Trying 169.237.104.195...
   Connected to smtp.ucdavis.edu.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   220 warsaw.ucdavis.edu ESMTP Sendmail
   8.12.10/8.12.9/it-defang-5.2.0; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:21:29 -0700 (PDT)
 
 However with cs.ucdavis.edu, I get a connection but no 220
 line.  As a result there's some LUGOD mailing list mail
 that's not being delivered.  I'm wondering if it's a
 firewall issue.
 
 Any other insight as to what's going on would be much
 appreciated.

I get the following from Omsoft:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet cs.ucdavis.edu 25
Trying 169.237.6.6...
Connected to baton.cs.ucdavis.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 baton.cs.ucdavis.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.10/8.12.10; Sun, 3 Oct 2004
21:33:33 -0700 (PDT) QUIT
221 2.0.0 baton.cs.ucdavis.edu closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.


(I typed QUIT myself)

--Ken Bloom

(Shouldn't Omsoft be refusing to let me do things like that -- and
forcing me to go through my ISP's SMTP server?)

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