Re: [vox-tech] Can a User Write To Windows Partition?

2004-12-12 Thread Mark K. Kim
Each file system type has its own set of options.  Adding those extra
options probably won't affect a VFAT partition in anyway (it'll probably
be ignored.)  `man mount` has the list of standard file systems and the
options applicable for each FS.

Good luck!

-Mark

PS: acl = access control list, user_xattr = User extended
attributes... neither feature is available on VFAT.  I've never seen user
extended attributes but ACL is used kind of like the standard UNIX
user/group permissions control but it gives you extended features.  Never
used it much but the UC Davis EE department uses it on their network.


On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

 On Saturday 11 December 2004 18:24, Ken Bloom wrote:

  Here's an fstab entry I have on 2.6:
 
  /dev/hda6   /home/bloom/vfat vfat
  defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=177,dmask=077 0 2
 
  Note that in a real fstab file, that would all be on one line.
 
  This gives me rw--- on files and rwx-- on directories. Note that
  you need x on directories in order to cd to them

 I might try an entry like that.  But consider the entry below for my home
 directory:

 /dev/hdb7/homereiserfs   acl,user_xattr1 2

 I don't know what acl,user_xattr means.  But what if I added that entry to
 my Windows partition.  Do you think that would work without ruining
 something?

 Thank you.

 Bob

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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Rod Roark
On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:13 pm, Ken Bloom wrote:
 http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/vte/vteterminal.html
 
 look at vte_terminal_set_emulation()
 
 You may need to add this line to the appropriate place in Gnome
 Terminal, but I don't know what it is.
 
 As always, reply when you've tried it so that the googlers can find out
 whether it worked.

Thanks Ken.  It will be a few days before I can try anything,
but it appears I can build VTE with the configure option
--with-default-emulation=scoansi.  Perhaps that would be
sufficient, since grepping the gnome-terminal source for
vte_terminal_set_emulation yields no matches.

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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Ken Bloom
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:46:42 -0800
Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:13 pm, Ken Bloom wrote:
  http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/vte/vteterminal.html
  
  look at vte_terminal_set_emulation()
  
  You may need to add this line to the appropriate place in Gnome
  Terminal, but I don't know what it is.
  
  As always, reply when you've tried it so that the googlers can find
  out whether it worked.
 
 Thanks Ken.  It will be a few days before I can try anything,
 but it appears I can build VTE with the configure option
 --with-default-emulation=scoansi.  Perhaps that would be
 sufficient, since grepping the gnome-terminal source for
 vte_terminal_set_emulation yields no matches.

I haven't gotten this to work (ls spits out random junk, clear complains that 
it doesn't know what an scoansi termianl is, vim looks strange, and also 
complains that it doesn't know what an scoansi is), but is it possible you want 
code like this?

Note that you'll want to install the appropriate package containing a termcap 
file. Debian doesn't install one unless something depends on it.

--- gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-screen.c 2004-12-12 10:24:57.0 
-0800
+++ gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-screen.c  2004-12-12 10:43:49.0 
-0800
@@ -1069,7 +1069,7 @@
 
   retval[i] = g_strdup (COLORTERM=EXECUTABLE_NAME);
   ++i;
-  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=xterm); /* FIXME configurable later? */
+  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=scoansi); /* FIXME configurable later? */
   ++i;
   retval[i] = g_strdup_printf (WINDOWID=%ld,
GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW (term-window));
diff -uNr gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c 
gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c
--- gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c 2004-12-12 10:24:57.0 
-0800
+++ gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c  2004-12-12 
10:43:49.0 -0800
@@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
   terminal = vte_terminal_new ();
 
   vte_terminal_set_mouse_autohide(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), TRUE);
+  vte_terminal_set_emulation(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), scoansi);
   
   data = g_new0 (VteData, 1);
 

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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Rod Roark
On Sunday 12 December 2004 10:51 am, Ken Bloom wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:46:42 -0800
 Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:13 pm, Ken Bloom wrote:
   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/vte/vteterminal.html
   
   look at vte_terminal_set_emulation()
   
   You may need to add this line to the appropriate place in Gnome
   Terminal, but I don't know what it is.
   
   As always, reply when you've tried it so that the googlers can find
   out whether it worked.
  
  Thanks Ken.  It will be a few days before I can try anything,
  but it appears I can build VTE with the configure option
  --with-default-emulation=scoansi.  Perhaps that would be
  sufficient, since grepping the gnome-terminal source for
  vte_terminal_set_emulation yields no matches.
 
 I haven't gotten this to work (ls spits out random junk, clear 
 complains that it doesn't know what an scoansi termianl is, vim 
 looks strange, and also complains that it doesn't know what an 
 scoansi is), but is it possible you want code like this?   

Yeah I think so.  The idea is to bring up the terminal app
and then immediately telnet or ssh into the sco box.  Then
the sco apps will spit out scoansi doodoo and the hacked-up
gnome-terminal will hopefully understand it.

So assuming you are not connecting to an sco machine, what
you are describing is exactly what I'd expect.

 Note that you'll want to install the appropriate package 
 containing a termcap file. Debian doesn't install one unless 
 something depends on it.  

Probably I'll install Fedora Core 3 which does install a
/etc/termcap with scoansi stuff included.  I assume that is
what you mean?

 --- gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-screen.c 2004-12-12 10:24:57.0 
 -0800
 +++ gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-screen.c  2004-12-12 10:43:49.0 
 -0800
 @@ -1069,7 +1069,7 @@
  
retval[i] = g_strdup (COLORTERM=EXECUTABLE_NAME);
++i;
 -  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=xterm); /* FIXME configurable later? */
 +  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=scoansi); /* FIXME configurable later? */
++i;
retval[i] = g_strdup_printf (WINDOWID=%ld,
 GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW (term-window));
 diff -uNr gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c 
 gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c
 --- gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c 2004-12-12 
 10:24:57.0 -0800
 +++ gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c  2004-12-12 
 10:43:49.0 -0800
 @@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
terminal = vte_terminal_new ();
  
vte_terminal_set_mouse_autohide(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), TRUE);
 +  vte_terminal_set_emulation(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), scoansi);

data = g_new0 (VteData, 1);

Are these patches that you applied, or did they come from
./configure --with-default-emulation=scoansi?

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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 10:51:37AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote:
snip
 -  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=xterm); /* FIXME configurable later? */
 +  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=scoansi); /* FIXME configurable later? */
snip

Heh... I love that.  Comment. :^)

Perhaps one of us should fix it to make it configurable, and send the
upstream a patch? ;)

-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:00:39PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 Heh... I love that.  Comment. :^)

Er...  I love that comment.

-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Xterm and terminal types

2004-12-12 Thread Ken Bloom
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:30:14 -0800
Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 12 December 2004 10:51 am, Ken Bloom wrote:
  On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:46:42 -0800
  Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:13 pm, Ken Bloom wrote:
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/vte/vteterminal.html

look at vte_terminal_set_emulation()

You may need to add this line to the appropriate place in Gnome
Terminal, but I don't know what it is.

As always, reply when you've tried it so that the googlers can
find out whether it worked.
   
   Thanks Ken.  It will be a few days before I can try anything,
   but it appears I can build VTE with the configure option
   --with-default-emulation=scoansi.  Perhaps that would be
   sufficient, since grepping the gnome-terminal source for
   vte_terminal_set_emulation yields no matches.
  
  I haven't gotten this to work (ls spits out random junk, clear 
  complains that it doesn't know what an scoansi termianl is, vim 
  looks strange, and also complains that it doesn't know what an 
  scoansi is), but is it possible you want code like this?   
 
 Yeah I think so.  The idea is to bring up the terminal app
 and then immediately telnet or ssh into the sco box.  Then
 the sco apps will spit out scoansi doodoo and the hacked-up
 gnome-terminal will hopefully understand it.
 
 So assuming you are not connecting to an sco machine, what
 you are describing is exactly what I'd expect.

Well, I should be able to configure my applications locally here to be
able to speak to such a terminal.

Here's the deal with termcaps and terminfos:

in Debian, the termcap information is found in the termcap-compat
package, which includes the termcap file - basically a monolithic file
full of termcap entries. Nothing in debian depends on termcap - they all
use terminfo.

in Debian, a few of the basic terminfo entries are found in
ncurses-base, and the rest (including scoansi) are found in ncurses-term

When I first tested this patch, I didn't have ncurses-term installed.
Now that I installed ncurses-term, things still don't look right, but
they didn't look right in this terminal after I ran
$ export TERM=xterm
either, so I assume it's trying to emulate scoansi now rather than
xterm. But this is the YMMV part of the experiment. Let us know how it
goes.

  Note that you'll want to install the appropriate package 
  containing a termcap file. Debian doesn't install one unless 
  something depends on it.  
 
 Probably I'll install Fedora Core 3 which does install a
 /etc/termcap with scoansi stuff included.  I assume that is
 what you mean?
 
  --- gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-screen.c 2004-12-12
  10:24:57.0 -0800+++
  gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-screen.c  2004-12-12
  10:43:49.0 -0800@@ -1069,7 +1069,7 @@
   
 retval[i] = g_strdup (COLORTERM=EXECUTABLE_NAME);
 ++i;
  -  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=xterm); /* FIXME configurable later?
  */+  retval[i] = g_strdup (TERM=scoansi); /* FIXME configurable
  later? */
 ++i;
 retval[i] = g_strdup_printf (WINDOWID=%ld,
  GDK_WINDOW_XWINDOW (term-window));
  diff -uNr gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c
  gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c---
  gnome-terminal-orig/src/terminal-widget-vte.c 2004-12-12
  10:24:57.0 -0800+++
  gnome-terminal-2.8.0/src/terminal-widget-vte.c  2004-12-12
  10:43:49.0 -0800@@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
 terminal = vte_terminal_new ();
   
 vte_terminal_set_mouse_autohide(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), TRUE);
  +  vte_terminal_set_emulation(VTE_TERMINAL(terminal), scoansi);
 
 data = g_new0 (VteData, 1);
 
 Are these patches that you applied, or did they come from
 ./configure --with-default-emulation=scoansi?

This is a patch file generated from manual changes I made directly to
debian sid's current gnome-terminal sources.

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