Re: [vox-tech] DVD burning front ends

2005-03-09 Thread Ted Deppner
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:11:38PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
 gurumode Achieving higher consciousness requires ridding your mind of
 such illusory notions as going into desktop environments.  The
 enlightened know that there are only display managers, window managers,
 X server processes, session managers, and run-of-the-mill X processes.
 All else is samsara.  /gurumode

Shhh!  It's getting crowded up here as it is!

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[vox-tech] Persistant hardware problem kicking my butt

2005-03-09 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
I'm emotionally drained by a persistant hardware problem, and when I become
emotionally involved with a problem, I tend to not think clearly.  So I'd
like to bounce something off the list.  Any thoughts greatly appreciated.


Relevent Hardware:
   Abit NF7 (NForce 2 chipset)
   Athlon XP 2200
   2 DDR-400 DIMMs.  512MB each.
   Mad Dog something-or-other DVD/CD writer.  Writes DVD9.  USB 2.0.
   

1. I was burning a bunch of DVDs under Win2k.  Nero's verification
   consistantly failed.

2. I switched to Linux and used k3b.  Verification of burned image
   failed as well.

3. Certain programs under Linux were segfaulting out of the blue.  They
   never segfaulted before (Quake III and Unreal Tournament).  I didn't
   detect any GPF under Windows, but who knows what really goes on?

4. Ran memtest86 three times.  All three times, memtest86 segfaulted.
   It indicated that DIMM 0 was the problem.

5. Removed DIMM 1.  Reran memtest86.  It segfaulted.

6. Removed DIMM 0.  Placed what used to be DIMM 1 into slot 0.  Reran
   memtest86 for about 8 hours.  No errors.

7. Ran Quake III / Unreal Tourn. in Linux for a while.  No segfaults.



At this point, I thought the problem was fixed.  I was wrong.



8. Burned a CD with k3b.  It was a collection of text and binary files.
   Here were a collection of md5sums of what I burned:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/*
  ec17179683b1ec7c584371d52d482dc7  2004_suprnova_april_fools.jpg
  2a35dd12706e6a109aa5d51a5b7414d6  ballmerwindows.wmv
  1969446ec71b76c01a852ffabcba7b83  Call Of The Wild.txt
  76319f20a91df19621a2c6ed0144803f  common_passwords.txt
  7fe852ab7b3609657aa3c7e633ba7c02  Imagine (John Lennon).mp3
  611759e7fa9455f2cdc574da4eb875bf  Leonardo.txt
  83681d4c6c34e5c9f924c3b0ea732038  Makefile
  bda631d8fac719f1efb741a61f2f4902  Metamorphosis.txt
  0f3a64e11edc97f32e089d07e8bee7bc  polygons.c
  cacbcb3cf986d1cf658c8b8fff6f6ce6  rip.pl
  8a72cd8e4e59263f4813892c3ab3b91f  roth.zip
  e8bc0afb5ab15a10ab233ceab86936bf  sid.bmp
  3136b05433e0c0e6877699bcd4e603dc  The Complete Ninjas Handbook.pdf
  1a715e61acf7a1bae7f87af03687f11b  tomsrtbt-2.0.103.tar.bz2
  b879804716164d24f92519f33774e9f4  try.c
  bb4416e6db326f9f30e4c73953cbcadf  vmlinuz-2.6.9
  dc692157d1b305cc9b583352ef2c  War And Peace.txt
  f9436029f9e7bfd3800860e768a1febd  write_errors.txt
  a553f7a13fb2a0f02c8ff53ae7c378f9  Zarathustra.txt
  5f363e0e58a95f06cbe9bbc662c5dfb6  zero

   Roth.zip is an old DOS game in a zip archive.  The md5sum is different
   from the md5sum of the hard disk copy:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  8a72cd8e4e59263f4813892c3ab3b91f  /dvd/roth.zip

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum ~/Desktop/files/roth.zip
  db144e6264cfd84d6276b9488e57a279  /home/p/Desktop/files/roth.zip

   I umount, remount the DVD.  The md5sum changes but is still wrong.
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  a1fc154848aa932a7cf44e723ebc6082  /dvd/roth.zip

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  a1fc154848aa932a7cf44e723ebc6082  /dvd/roth.zip

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  169e7a2327a054f7859066f91b485f45  /dvd/roth.zip

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  51d5d96a4108285080f16261916f6e74  /dvd/roth.zip

   I finally get the correct md5sum.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
  db144e6264cfd84d6276b9488e57a279  /dvd/roth.zip

   When I mount the burned DVD on a drive connected to a different system,
   the md5sum appears to be consistantly correct.


9. Sometimes, when the machine boots up, POST freezes right after it says
   checking RAM but just before it starts to check the RAM.  This is a
   new development.  I can make this problem go away only by shutting off
   the power supply (not powering down.  actually shutting the PS off).


10. I still detect no segfaults that were present before I removed DIMM 0.


11. I've been running memtest86 for a couple of hours now without errors.



I think that's all the data I have.  It's imperative that I have a reliable
fast machine right now to run physics simulations.  That's crucial.  To me,
the available clues seem contradictory.  Somethings points to RAM.  Other
things point to something resident on the mother board.  Still other things
point to the DVD drive.

Help?

Pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Persistant hardware problem kicking my butt

2005-03-09 Thread Mark K. Kim
Is the computer overclocked by any chance?  Or has it ever been
overclocked in the past?

-Mark


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

 I'm emotionally drained by a persistant hardware problem, and when I become
 emotionally involved with a problem, I tend to not think clearly.  So I'd
 like to bounce something off the list.  Any thoughts greatly appreciated.


 Relevent Hardware:
Abit NF7 (NForce 2 chipset)
Athlon XP 2200
2 DDR-400 DIMMs.  512MB each.
Mad Dog something-or-other DVD/CD writer.  Writes DVD9.  USB 2.0.


 1. I was burning a bunch of DVDs under Win2k.  Nero's verification
consistantly failed.

 2. I switched to Linux and used k3b.  Verification of burned image
failed as well.

 3. Certain programs under Linux were segfaulting out of the blue.  They
never segfaulted before (Quake III and Unreal Tournament).  I didn't
detect any GPF under Windows, but who knows what really goes on?

 4. Ran memtest86 three times.  All three times, memtest86 segfaulted.
It indicated that DIMM 0 was the problem.

 5. Removed DIMM 1.  Reran memtest86.  It segfaulted.

 6. Removed DIMM 0.  Placed what used to be DIMM 1 into slot 0.  Reran
memtest86 for about 8 hours.  No errors.

 7. Ran Quake III / Unreal Tourn. in Linux for a while.  No segfaults.



 At this point, I thought the problem was fixed.  I was wrong.



 8. Burned a CD with k3b.  It was a collection of text and binary files.
Here were a collection of md5sums of what I burned:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/*
   ec17179683b1ec7c584371d52d482dc7  2004_suprnova_april_fools.jpg
   2a35dd12706e6a109aa5d51a5b7414d6  ballmerwindows.wmv
   1969446ec71b76c01a852ffabcba7b83  Call Of The Wild.txt
   76319f20a91df19621a2c6ed0144803f  common_passwords.txt
   7fe852ab7b3609657aa3c7e633ba7c02  Imagine (John Lennon).mp3
   611759e7fa9455f2cdc574da4eb875bf  Leonardo.txt
   83681d4c6c34e5c9f924c3b0ea732038  Makefile
   bda631d8fac719f1efb741a61f2f4902  Metamorphosis.txt
   0f3a64e11edc97f32e089d07e8bee7bc  polygons.c
   cacbcb3cf986d1cf658c8b8fff6f6ce6  rip.pl
   8a72cd8e4e59263f4813892c3ab3b91f  roth.zip
   e8bc0afb5ab15a10ab233ceab86936bf  sid.bmp
   3136b05433e0c0e6877699bcd4e603dc  The Complete Ninjas Handbook.pdf
   1a715e61acf7a1bae7f87af03687f11b  tomsrtbt-2.0.103.tar.bz2
   b879804716164d24f92519f33774e9f4  try.c
   bb4416e6db326f9f30e4c73953cbcadf  vmlinuz-2.6.9
   dc692157d1b305cc9b583352ef2c  War And Peace.txt
   f9436029f9e7bfd3800860e768a1febd  write_errors.txt
   a553f7a13fb2a0f02c8ff53ae7c378f9  Zarathustra.txt
   5f363e0e58a95f06cbe9bbc662c5dfb6  zero

Roth.zip is an old DOS game in a zip archive.  The md5sum is different
from the md5sum of the hard disk copy:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   8a72cd8e4e59263f4813892c3ab3b91f  /dvd/roth.zip

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum ~/Desktop/files/roth.zip
   db144e6264cfd84d6276b9488e57a279  /home/p/Desktop/files/roth.zip

I umount, remount the DVD.  The md5sum changes but is still wrong.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   a1fc154848aa932a7cf44e723ebc6082  /dvd/roth.zip

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   a1fc154848aa932a7cf44e723ebc6082  /dvd/roth.zip

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   169e7a2327a054f7859066f91b485f45  /dvd/roth.zip

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   51d5d96a4108285080f16261916f6e74  /dvd/roth.zip

I finally get the correct md5sum.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] umount /dvd/; mount /dvd/; md5sum /dvd/roth.zip
   db144e6264cfd84d6276b9488e57a279  /dvd/roth.zip

When I mount the burned DVD on a drive connected to a different system,
the md5sum appears to be consistantly correct.


 9. Sometimes, when the machine boots up, POST freezes right after it says
checking RAM but just before it starts to check the RAM.  This is a
new development.  I can make this problem go away only by shutting off
the power supply (not powering down.  actually shutting the PS off).


 10. I still detect no segfaults that were present before I removed DIMM 0.


 11. I've been running memtest86 for a couple of hours now without errors.



 I think that's all the data I have.  It's imperative that I have a reliable
 fast machine right now to run physics simulations.  That's crucial.  To me,
 the available clues seem contradictory.  Somethings points to RAM.  Other
 things point to something resident on the mother board.  Still other things
 point to the DVD drive.

 Help?

 Pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Persistant hardware problem kicking my butt

2005-03-09 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
Hey Mark,

It was overclocked about ... a year ago?   Probably longer.  When I first
built the machine.   I was just taking the board out for a test drive.  The
board (most of Abit's boards) are designed for overclocking.

I wanted to know what the limits were, but after a few days, I found that
win2k wasn't completely stable at that speed, so I reset everything back
to the default values.

It was so long ago, though.  How likely do you think that is?

Thanks!
Pete



On Wed 09 Mar 05, 10:02 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Is the computer overclocked by any chance?  Or has it ever been
 overclocked in the past?
 
 -Mark

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[vox-tech] USB flash drive

2005-03-09 Thread Rod Roark
So, just for the helluvit I ordered a 1 GB USB pen drive.

Has anyone put something like Knoppix on one of these?

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Re: [vox-tech] Persistant hardware problem kicking my butt

2005-03-09 Thread Mark K. Kim
I'm not sure how relevant it is... just thought it's something to think
about.  I never overclock my system just in case something like this
happens... -_-' But if you didn't keep it up for very long it's probably
not the issue... although I'd try a different process on the mobo if you
got a mobo-compatible spare just to make sure the CPU isn't the problem.

-Mark


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

 Hey Mark,

 It was overclocked about ... a year ago?   Probably longer.  When I first
 built the machine.   I was just taking the board out for a test drive.  The
 board (most of Abit's boards) are designed for overclocking.

 I wanted to know what the limits were, but after a few days, I found that
 win2k wasn't completely stable at that speed, so I reset everything back
 to the default values.

 It was so long ago, though.  How likely do you think that is?

 Thanks!
 Pete



 On Wed 09 Mar 05, 10:02 AM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Is the computer overclocked by any chance?  Or has it ever been
  overclocked in the past?
 
  -Mark

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[vox-tech] (Moved from [vox]) Errors in software compilation

2005-03-09 Thread Bill Kendrick

Hi Dylan.  This kind of question actually belongs over here on vox-tech,
so I've replied here, instead of plain 'vox'...


On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 03:30:13PM -0800, Dylan Beaudette wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I am using a software package called GDAL here at work, and it compiles fine 
 on my Debian Sarge box... However, the *same* source tree fails to compile on
 a similar machine running Slackware...
snip

On your Sarge box, do you have cpl_port.h and/or cpl_error.h anywhere
else, besides the 'gdal' build directory?


snip
 g++ -c -o gdalopen.o gdalopen.cpp
 In file included from gdal_priv.h:190,
  from gdalopen.cpp:94:
 gdal.h:177:22: cpl_port.h: No such file or directory
 gdal.h:178:23: cpl_error.h: No such file or directory
snip


 however:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/gdal-1.2.5$ locate cpl_port
 /home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/port/cpl_port.h
snip

The command invoked above was simply g++ -c -o 
There were no -I include path directives given.
Is this different than on your Sarge box?

Also, can you tell (by examining the entire make sequence up to this
point) whether Make had dove into the port/ subdirectory?  If it was
compiling something in the directory above (or some other subdirectory),
then it almost certainly wouldn't be able to find the cpl_port.h header.

Sorry I can't help more!

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Re: [vox-tech] (Moved from [vox]) Errors in software compilation

2005-03-09 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 03:28 pm, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 Hi Dylan.  This kind of question actually belongs over here on vox-tech,
 so I've replied here, instead of plain 'vox'...

Thanks Bill!

 On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 03:30:13PM -0800, Dylan Beaudette wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I am using a software package called GDAL here at work, and it compiles
  fine on my Debian Sarge box... However, the *same* source tree fails to
  compile on a similar machine running Slackware...

 snip

 On your Sarge box, do you have cpl_port.h and/or cpl_error.h anywhere
 else, besides the 'gdal' build directory?

Yes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate cpl_port
/home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/port/cpl_port.h
/usr/local/include/cpl_port.h

...However, the file didn't make it into /usr/include/ until after the make 
install  step...

After copying the GDAL-specific headers to /usr/include:
find . -name *.h -exec cp '{}' /usr/include/ \;

... make seems to be chugging along fine... but then there is what seems to be 
an endless loop with:

-
.
make[965]: Entering directory `/home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/frmts'
make[965]: Nothing to be done for `default'.
make[965]: Leaving directory `/home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/frmts'
(cd ogr; make lib )
make[965]: Entering directory `/home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/ogr'
make[965]: Nothing to be done for `lib'.
make[965]: Leaving directory `/home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/ogr'
make

[ad infinitum]

and a CTRL-C results in:
---
...
make[11]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[10]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[9]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[8]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[7]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[6]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[5]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[4]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[3]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[2]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make[1]: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
make: *** [check-lib] Interrupt
...
-


something strange is going on here

Any ideas?


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Re: [vox-tech] (Moved from [vox]) Errors in software compilation

2005-03-09 Thread Micah Cowan
Dylan Beaudette wrote:
After copying the GDAL-specific headers to /usr/include:
find . -name *.h -exec cp '{}' /usr/include/ \;
.. make seems to be chugging along fine...
I wouldn't have recommended that. At the very least, a -i option to cp 
would seem appropriate, to ensure against clobbering existing files.

Also, a number of those .h files may not have been intended for 
installation to system include directories, so you're cluttering things 
up in there.

-Micah
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Re: [vox-tech] (Moved from [vox]) Errors in software compilation

2005-03-09 Thread Mark K. Kim
Where's your `./configure` step???

-Mark


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Bill Kendrick wrote:


 Hi Dylan.  This kind of question actually belongs over here on vox-tech,
 so I've replied here, instead of plain 'vox'...


 On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 03:30:13PM -0800, Dylan Beaudette wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I am using a software package called GDAL here at work, and it compiles fine
  on my Debian Sarge box... However, the *same* source tree fails to compile 
  on
  a similar machine running Slackware...
 snip

 On your Sarge box, do you have cpl_port.h and/or cpl_error.h anywhere
 else, besides the 'gdal' build directory?


 snip
  g++ -c -o gdalopen.o gdalopen.cpp
  In file included from gdal_priv.h:190,
   from gdalopen.cpp:94:
  gdal.h:177:22: cpl_port.h: No such file or directory
  gdal.h:178:23: cpl_error.h: No such file or directory
 snip


  however:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/gdal-1.2.5$ locate cpl_port
  /home/dylan/src/gdal-1.2.5/port/cpl_port.h
 snip

 The command invoked above was simply g++ -c -o 
 There were no -I include path directives given.
 Is this different than on your Sarge box?

 Also, can you tell (by examining the entire make sequence up to this
 point) whether Make had dove into the port/ subdirectory?  If it was
 compiling something in the directory above (or some other subdirectory),
 then it almost certainly wouldn't be able to find the cpl_port.h header.

 Sorry I can't help more!

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Re: [vox-tech] (Moved from [vox]) Errors in software compilation

2005-03-09 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 05:58:40PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
 Where's your `./configure` step???

In Dylan's original post, he said the configure step worked fine,
but that IS a good question.

Dylan, can you start fresh and cut-n-paste the initial configure and
make steps into an email here?

Also, is this app downloadable from anywhere?  (I don't remember if you
had mentioned an URL in any prev posts)

Thx

-bill!
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