Re: [vox-tech] playing an audio CD

2006-01-24 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10:06PM -0800, Norm Matloff wrote:
> But I can't seem to get either her Linux machine or
> mine to play music from audio CDs,


That IS a show-stopper! :^)



> On my machine, the CD drive is (auto-)mounted at /media/cdrecorder.
> (There is also a DVD player, at /media/cdrom.) I believe hers has the
> same mount points, though I don't remember and don't have the machine in
> front of me now.  Sound works fine on both machines, as verified by use
> of other applications.  

You don't want the disc mounted if you're going to play audio though.
(I somehow doubt that's happening, though -- unless the audio CD also
contains data, which some do.  Check the output of "mount" to make
sure, of course!)


> On my machine, CD Player seems to be working, in that the slider bar
> moves as time passes, but there is no sound.  (And movies play fine on
> the DVD drive, using mplayer.)

IIRC, CD drives are often connected to the sound card via a little cable
within the PC itself, so that all the CPU has to do is tell the CD player
"Play", and the audio comes in as a Line to the sound card.

First off, make sure your systems' mixers are set up so that the CD audio
isn't muted, and is up loud enough.  (You'd see it in the mixer along with
a Mic input, as well as sound output and probably L/R balance and other
controls.)


> On my daughter's machine, the slider bar
> doesn't even move, and an error message comes up.  On both machines, the
> program provided to copy analog music to digital files on the hard drive
> (don't remember the name now) does in fact work, as I verified.

Can you tell which application you're using to play CDs?  (There's probably a
"Help->About" that would tell you and app's official name and version.)
(I personally use Kscd under KDE at home.)

Can you provide the exact error message?


> Does anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
> 
> Do I need to create a /dev node?

Not if you can rip (as you mentioned above), and if you can mount data
CDs (e.g., "mount /media/crom").  Check the contents of /etc/fstab to see
what device your system thinks the CD drive is (e.g., "/dev/hdc",
"/dev/cdrom0", etc.)

Then it might be good to make sure the CD player is looking at the same
device node...


> And by the way, how do I use mplayer to play audio?  The documentation,
> using the command-line format "mplayer cdda..." is unclear.

That's probably for playing audio data that's been literally ripped off
the disc.  I don't have player handy in front of me (and have been using
Kmplayer and Kaffeine under KDE lately, since they actually have GUI controls
and stuff), but I remember for playing a DVD video with Mplayer, you
do something like:

  mplayer dvd://

Perhaps to get it to play audio from a CD you can do:

  mplayer cd://


Of course, getting a good new-fashioned GUI working with it first is probably
a good idea.  Mplayer's got more command-line switches than all other
Linux command-line tools combined![*]


Good luck!

[*] For some humorous value of "more" ;^)

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Re: [vox-tech] playing an audio CD

2006-01-24 Thread Micah J. Cowan
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10:06PM -0800, Norm Matloff wrote:
> Being as busy as I am, unfortunately almost all of my work with
> computers is "serious," e.g. no game playing. :-(
> 
> Now my 14-year-old daughter has suddenly decided she wants to become a
> Linux user.  Yay!  But I can't seem to get either her Linux machine or
> mine to play music from audio CDs, something of absolutely prime
> importance to her. :-)  This is gonna be a dealbreaker for her, so we
> risk losing a potential Linux enthusiast.  Thus any help you people can
> give me would be much appreciated.

See if your CD player has a "Direct digital playback" option or similar.
This may fix the "silent success" problem.

I can tell you how you might get it to work using xmms...

The fact that the slider is going but nothing is playing, /might/
indicate that the CD drive's audo output cable isn't plugged into the
sound-card's input jack. XMMS lets you deal with this situation
gracefully. If you click on the upper-left icon, you will get a menu.
Goto Options and select Preferences. On the "Audio I/O Plugins" tab,
select "CD Audio Player" and hit the "Configure" button.

Make sure that the Device field has the correct device file on it, and
use any intuitive path for the Directory field. When you tell XMMS to
"Play Directory" on that directory, it will automagically load your
Audio CD (if it has been configured correctly).

If you're having trouble getting the sound to play (same situation as
you're currently seeing in CD Audio Player), select "Digital audio
extraction" instead of "Analog".

HTH,
Micah
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[vox-tech] playing an audio CD

2006-01-24 Thread Norm Matloff
Being as busy as I am, unfortunately almost all of my work with
computers is "serious," e.g. no game playing. :-(

Now my 14-year-old daughter has suddenly decided she wants to become a
Linux user.  Yay!  But I can't seem to get either her Linux machine or
mine to play music from audio CDs, something of absolutely prime
importance to her. :-)  This is gonna be a dealbreaker for her, so we
risk losing a potential Linux enthusiast.  Thus any help you people can
give me would be much appreciated.

Both of our machines are i386 PCs, two or three years old.
My own machine is running Fedora Core 3, while hers is running 
Mandriva 2006 (i.e. Mandrake 10.2).

On my machine, the CD drive is (auto-)mounted at /media/cdrecorder.
(There is also a DVD player, at /media/cdrom.) I believe hers has the
same mount points, though I don't remember and don't have the machine in
front of me now.  Sound works fine on both machines, as verified by use
of other applications.  

On my machine, CD Player seems to be working, in that the slider bar
moves as time passes, but there is no sound.  (And movies play fine on
the DVD drive, using mplayer.) On my daughter's machine, the slider bar
doesn't even move, and an error message comes up.  On both machines, the
program provided to copy analog music to digital files on the hard drive
(don't remember the name now) does in fact work, as I verified.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?

Do I need to create a /dev node?

And by the way, how do I use mplayer to play audio?  The documentation,
using the command-line format "mplayer cdda..." is unclear.

Norm 


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