Re: [vox-tech] Resizing partition ext3

[Rick Moen]

Quoting Ken Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Would be nice. I've resized a few ext2 partitions, but haven't found any 
> way to move the front of the partion, short of nuking the partition 
> completely and restoring from a backup.

Happily, it's dead-easy to "resize" any type of Linux filesystem, using
a live CD's ssh and rsync utiltiies and an adequate amount of disk space
on any other host on your network.  Just copy the files, blow away
filesystems, make new ones, copy back.  (Notes at  "Copying Directory Trees"
on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Admin may help.)

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Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness

[Richard S. Crawford]

On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:09:10 pm Troy Arnold wrote:
> Have you tried power-cycling the Linksys ?  Maybe it's lost its mind.

Yeah, a couple of times.  That it's lost its mind isn't too remote a 
possibility.  It's a pretty old one (dating to 2000, I think).

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Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness

[Troy Arnold]

On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 09:53:12PM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me.  :)

Have you tried power-cycling the Linksys ?  Maybe it's lost its mind.
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Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness

[Richard S. Crawford]

On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> > Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website,
> > http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home.  I can reach just about every
> > other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various
> > subdomains) that are causing the problems.  Furthermore, I can reach the
> > host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains.  This problem is
> > only happening at home.
> >
> > When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get
> > this:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
> > $ traceroute extensiondlc.net
> > traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > packets 1 * * *
> >  2 * * *
> >  3 * * *
> >  4 * * *
> > ...
> > 30 * * *
> >
> > I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to.
> >
> > In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it
> > means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about
> > everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine.
> >
> > I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that
> > nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call.
> >
> > Can anyone offer some insight?\
>
> What is the output of
>
>netstat -nr
>
> and
>
>ip link
>
> from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your
> home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
$ netstat -nr
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
$ ip link
1: lo:  mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: sit0:  mtu 1480 qdisc noop
link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0


I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me.  :)

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Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness

[Jeff Newmiller]

Richard S. Crawford wrote:
Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, 
http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home.  I can reach just about every other 
website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various 
subdomains) that are causing the problems.  Furthermore, I can reach the 
host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains.  This problem is 
only happening at home.


When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
$ traceroute extensiondlc.net
traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1 * * *
 2 * * *
 3 * * *
 4 * * *
...
30 * * *

I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to.

In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it 
means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about 
everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine.


I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that 
nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call.


Can anyone offer some insight?\


What is the output of

  netstat -nr

and

  ip link

from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your
home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router?


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Re: [vox-tech] Resizing partition ext3

[Ken Bloom]

On Saturday 10 March 2007 20:39, Alex Mandel wrote:
> What I have(partitions):
> P1: NTFS(Windows)
> P2: Ext3(/)
> P3: Fat32
>
> What I want to do:
> Make P1 smaller
> Make P2 larger
>
> Questions:
> As long as I turn off journaling on my ext3(make it ext2) then I
> should be able to resize it, even if that means adding to the front
> end of the partition?

Would be nice. I've resized a few ext2 partitions, but haven't found any 
way to move the front of the partion, short of nuking the partition 
completely and restoring from a backup.

If you've got enough free space on the drive, you could set up a 
temporary partition elsewhere and just copy all of the stuff. I've done 
this a couple times when I've decided to resize partitions on my laptop 
while commuting to school. (Resizing partitions while commuting is 
living dangerously, but I know that my documents are safely in 
Subversion if anything goes wrong, and I know that I can always find a 
CD and start from scratch when I reach school if something goes wrong.)

> I'm not worried about resizing the NTFS, that's how I got linux onto
> this machine to begin with.
>
> Do I need to have free space in order to perform operations like this
> other than the space that is obviously being shifted?

Only if you take my "move stuff to another partition" strategy.

> I'm going to backup /etc, /home but how do I backup a list of all
> installed software so that if something goes wrong and I want to get
> back to what I have without remembering every package I've ever
> added. Preferably some automatic list that I could re-apt
> -An alternate use to this idea that I've been thinking about, if I
> change computers and want to bring a new machine up to the same set
> of software fast I would need some list that apt can run through.

WARNING: UNTESTED

I use
$ aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > thefile
to backup my package list

I've never tried restoring this way, but I would use
# xargs aptitude install --schedule-only < thefile
# aptitude install
to restore. The advantage of doing it this way would be to have aptitude 
remember which packages were manually installed and which were 
automatically installed as dependancies after the reinstall.

I have used Henry House's instructions, and I know that his instructions 
work.

--Ken

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Re: [vox-tech] Re: How to get started with Linux

[Jeffrey Nonken]

On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Kyle Oliveira wrote:

I know other folks offered other programs, but since you have a  
Windows
machine you may check to see if you have Nero (it seems to come  
bundled
with the PC more and more often nowadays). Nero 6 came with my  
Alienware
and it has a specific .iso burning utility that's fairly easy to  
find in
the Smart Start window that pops up when you select Nero. Besides  
that you


...except that it usually associates itself with .iso files when it's  
installed, which is why I didn't mention it. If he had it installed,  
double-clicking on the ISO file should have brought it up. So I  
assumed he didn't have it.


Still, it is worth looking for. It is possible I believe to install  
it without the association. Or if you've bought an external drive,  
maybe you didn't install Nero, but you may have the installation disc.


may try DVD Shrink. It's free, just search for it online. It  
handles CD/DVD

ripping and burning.


AFAIK DVD Shrink does not itself burn. It uses Nero. At work, where I  
do not have a copy of Nero that does DVDs, I use DVD Shrink to  
generate ISO files and then use DeepBurner to burn the ISOs.


I do use DVD Shrink a lot though, for shrinking DVDs. It's a great  
little program. :)

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[vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness

[Richard S. Crawford]

Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, 
http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home.  I can reach just about every other 
website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various 
subdomains) that are causing the problems.  Furthermore, I can reach the 
host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains.  This problem is 
only happening at home.

When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
$ traceroute extensiondlc.net
traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1 * * *
 2 * * *
 3 * * *
 4 * * *
...
30 * * *

I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to.

In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it 
means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about 
everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine.

I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that 
nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call.

Can anyone offer some insight?\

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[vox-tech] Re: How to get started with Linux

[Kyle Oliveira]

> Tim Coddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am a mostly Windows user
> trying to make the jump.
> 
> So I bought a new computer (the parts are still in various boxes around
> the house) and
> downloaded a copy of Ubuntu 6.10 onto my PC.  Burnt the copy onto a DVD
> (to large to use
> a CD being .73 Gig).
> 
> It seems that I am completely clue-free on where to go next.  The suffix
> of the file is .iso.  So
> how do I open it to see what is inside?  No utilities recognize that
> suffix.  Since DVD drivers
> don't come with Linux, is there a way to get it onto a CD?

I know other folks offered other programs, but since you have a Windows
machine you may check to see if you have Nero (it seems to come bundled
with the PC more and more often nowadays). Nero 6 came with my Alienware
and it has a specific .iso burning utility that's fairly easy to find in
the Smart Start window that pops up when you select Nero. Besides that you
may try DVD Shrink. It's free, just search for it online. It handles CD/DVD
ripping and burning.

Kyle Oliveira
2nd Year Computer Science Major
UC Davis
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[vox-tech] saving and retrieving package state on Debian/Ubuntu (was: Resizing partition ext3)

[Henry House]

[...]
> I'm going to backup /etc, /home but how do I backup a list of all
> installed software so that if something goes wrong and I want to get
> back to what I have without remembering every package I've ever added.
> Preferably some automatic list that I could re-apt
> -An alternate use to this idea that I've been thinking about, if I
> change computers and want to bring a new machine up to the same set of
> software fast I would need some list that apt can run through.

I don't know the intricacies of ext3 resizing, sorry. But I do know how
to save your installed-package list. 

# to save:
debconf-get-selections > mystatefile

# to retrieve:
debconf-set-selections < mystatefile
dselect install

Reference:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html

You may also wish to back up /var/ (run apt-get clean first!), which
obviates the above.

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Re: [vox-tech] How to get started with Linux

[Donald G. McGahan]

Tim Coddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am a mostly Windows user trying to 
make the jump.

So I bought a new computer (the parts are still in various boxes around
the house) and
downloaded a copy of Ubuntu 6.10 onto my PC.  Burnt the copy onto a DVD
(to large to use
a CD being .73 Gig).

It seems that I am completely clue-free on where to go next.  The suffix
of the file is .iso.  So
how do I open it to see what is inside?  No utilities recognize that
suffix.  Since DVD drivers
don't come with Linux, is there a way to get it onto a CD?
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I use a software product for Windows from Paragon Software Group specifically 
for this purpose.
http://download.paragon.ag/demo/pisb.exe
It is small dedicated and efficient. I hope all these suggestions help :-)


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Re: [vox-tech] How to get started with Linux

[Gandalf Parker]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007, Bill Kendrick wrote:


On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:32:30PM -0800, Jeffrey Nonken wrote:

It's a disc image. You need an .iso file burner. Nick mentioned some
programs, I want to add http://www.deepburner.com/ as another
possibility. (I've been using the free version. It's a nice little
lightweight utility.)


So let me get this straight... one downloads a ".iso" file on Windows,
and by default it DOESN'T know that the appropriate thing to do with this
is to burn it as a disc image onto a CD?  Sheesh! :^)


It doesnt know what to do with every file. It has no disc burner software 
included, so it has no response for .iso unless you install burner 
software.



(who downloaded a random .deb file the other day, and just right-clicked
it in KDE and selected "install" ;^) )


In windows that would be a .cab file. It does know what to do with that.
Hmmm does Linux default setup know what to do with an iso?

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Re: [vox-tech] How to get started with Linux

[Jeffrey Nonken]

On Mar 11, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Jeffrey Nonken wrote:

So far I haven't been able to get my Mac to do much with CD/DVD  
creation either, and it does have stuff bundled.


(It does know what to do with an .iso, though.)
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Re: [vox-tech] How to get started with Linux

[Jeffrey Nonken]

That's right. Microsoft doesn't bundle decent CD/DVD burning software  
that I know of. I think XP comes with a way to create discs by  
dragging and dropping files to the device, or something like that,  
but it didn't work for me on my work machine when I tried it.


Pretty lame, huh?

But we could bash Microsoft all night.

So far I haven't been able to get my Mac to do much with CD/DVD  
creation either, and it does have stuff bundled. Could be it's just  
that I haven't looked hard enough, but I've got free Windows-based  
utilities that do what I need, and more room on my PC hard drives, so  
I haven't spent a lot of energy (and no money) on the Mac stuff. (I  
should say, under OS X, since I can dual-boot on this thing. :)


Honestly, I don't even know how to burn a video DVD given the files  
(VOBs and IFO structure, ready to go) under OS X. Last time I tried I  
ended up with a coaster. Readable, but not as a video DVD.


(Oh, and sorry for the duplicate post.)


On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:32:30PM -0800, Jeffrey Nonken wrote:

It's a disc image. You need an .iso file burner. Nick mentioned some
programs, I want to add http://www.deepburner.com/ as another
possibility. (I've been using the free version. It's a nice little
lightweight utility.)


So let me get this straight... one downloads a ".iso" file on Windows,
and by default it DOESN'T know that the appropriate thing to do  
with this

is to burn it as a disc image onto a CD?  Sheesh! :^)

-bill!
(who downloaded a random .deb file the other day, and just right- 
clicked

it in KDE and selected "install" ;^) )
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Re: [vox-tech] How to get started with Linux

[Bill Kendrick]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:32:30PM -0800, Jeffrey Nonken wrote:
> It's a disc image. You need an .iso file burner. Nick mentioned some  
> programs, I want to add http://www.deepburner.com/ as another  
> possibility. (I've been using the free version. It's a nice little  
> lightweight utility.)

So let me get this straight... one downloads a ".iso" file on Windows,
and by default it DOESN'T know that the appropriate thing to do with this
is to burn it as a disc image onto a CD?  Sheesh! :^)

-bill!
(who downloaded a random .deb file the other day, and just right-clicked
it in KDE and selected "install" ;^) )
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