Re: [vox-tech] General Wireless Security Question

2007-03-27 Thread Gandalf Parker

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Bob Scofield wrote:


And here's another question I think I know the answer to.  Given that people
can hack at public access points, I assume that as far as protecting critical
system files you're better off with using Linux than Windows since it would
be harder for the hacker to get into the root directory given the Unix
permissions.  Is this correct?


Based on previous experience running honeypots, Id guess that the answer 
to that is the same by wireless as not.


Linux is better than windows but not quite for the reason you think. If a 
windows running script-kiddie gets a windows based app to hack in to a 
windows based system then they tend to be at home once they get in. If a 
linux based script kiddie gets an app to hack into a linux based system 
they are often lost at that point. You would be amazed at how many times I 
got my hopes up about a sophisticated breakin only to watch the person 
stumble around trying to figure out how to see the directory.


Of course, you can always improve on their confusion using non-default 
arrangments or misdirection. Dont take for granted that you wont be broken 
into, plan for it. Its alot more fun.


Just one example... it doesnt hurt anything to have your system contact 
you whenever it boots up, or someone becomes root, or certain commands are 
run. Have it do a traceroute or netstat and email it to you on another 
system. So you get a few irritating emails. You will appreciate it if your 
laptop ever gets stolen or hacked.


Gandalf  Parker
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Re: [vox-tech] starting xwindows

2007-03-27 Thread Gandalf Parker


My apologies to everyone. It appears that an fsck at some point did in 
fact wipe a couple of libraries. So the xwindows that used to work, was 
broken. So reinstall packages was the correct answer.


Gandalf  Parker
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[vox-tech] General Wireless Security Question

2007-03-27 Thread Bob Scofield
We've talked before here about how someone can hack into your laptop if you're 
doing wireless with an open connection at a public wireless access point.  
But does anybody have any idea what the practical risks are?

Does anybody know if there are very many people actually going near a 
Starbucks or airport access point and hacking into people's laptops?  I 
haven't read about this happening in the newspapers.

And here's another question I think I know the answer to.  Given that people 
can hack at public access points, I assume that as far as protecting critical 
system files you're better off with using Linux than Windows since it would 
be harder for the hacker to get into the root directory given the Unix 
permissions.  Is this correct?

Thank you.

Bob
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