Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-03 Thread Jay Strauss
Bill Kendrick wrote:
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:14:34AM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote:
 

It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.  Can't I do cut and paste 
without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't have a keyboard shortcut.
   

It IS a little bizarre sometimes. :^/
You can add a copy keyboard shortcut to Konsole by going to
Settings-Configure Shortcuts...
 

I should have looked at that, I'd been playing with other things on the 
settings menu

There's a Copy command in there which, by default, has no keyboard shortcut.
You could also do the slightly-tedious (but understandable since this is
a terminal app):
 [Alt]
 pause...  (Session menu at the top will become selected)
 [Right]   (to move to the Edit menu)
 [Down](to 'pull down' the Edit menu;
Copy is first, so will be selected)
 [Enter]   (to choose Edit)
 

Yes, I'd consider that a bit tedious :)
Text selection (highlighting) in Konsole and then middle-click pasting
SHOULD work, though.  But it does seem there's a difference between
pasting the highlighted selection and pasting something you've Edit-Copy'd
 

Yep, I've discovered that.  middle mousing is different than 
copy/paste.  I'm just getting used to this, coming from windows where 
everything goes to the 1 clipboard

BTW, quick example...  I can set [Alt]+[C] to be 'Copy' in my Konsole.
 

However, that makes it impossible (or difficult, at best) to send
an Alt-C sequence to a program I'm running _in_ the terminal.
Emacs, for example, seems to use Alt-C to capitalize words.
('foo foo foo' becomes 'Foo Foo Foo' if I hit Alt-C three times)
So be sure to pick some key sequence you don't need in the apps you'll be
running.  (Like [Alt]+[Ctrl]+[Shift]+[C] or something wacky :^) )
Good luck!
 

Thanks Bill !
Jay
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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-03 Thread Jay Strauss
Ken Herron wrote:
--On Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:14:34 AM -0500 Jay Strauss 
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If I want to cut and paste, I have to go to the menu-edit-copy then I
can paste to FireFox.  It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.
Can't I do cut and paste without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't
have a keyboard shortcut.

Actually, yes, there are two clipboards. See 
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html. Many apps will support 
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, and Ctrl-V as shortcuts for the menu copy, cut, and 
paste commands. But of course for konsole those keystrokes go to the 
terminal session.

Thanks for the link.  I've read it, and kinda understand it even.
On top of that, if you're using KDE then you're probably running 
klipper. Klipper takes over some of the clipboard operation, so 
depending on how that's configured, things may work differently for you.

I'll have to read about klipper now to
Thanks
Jay
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[vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-02 Thread Jay Strauss
Hi,
I sorta remember a thread like this, but couldn't find it in the archives.
When I run konsole, when I highlight some text, I can middle click and 
paste it into another (or same) xterm, but I can't paste it into a GUI 
program like FireFox.

If I want to cut and paste, I have to go to the menu-edit-copy then I 
can paste to FireFox. 

It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.  Can't I do cut and paste 
without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't have a keyboard shortcut.

I'd rather just use simple xterm but I don't even have the menu option 
for copy.

Thanks
Jay
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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-02 Thread Jay Strauss
Jay Strauss wrote:
Hi,
I sorta remember a thread like this, but couldn't find it in the 
archives.

When I run konsole, when I highlight some text, I can middle click and 
paste it into another (or same) xterm, but I can't paste it into a GUI 
program like FireFox.

If I want to cut and paste, I have to go to the menu-edit-copy then 
I can paste to FireFox.
It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.  Can't I do cut and 
paste without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't have a keyboard 
shortcut.

I'd rather just use simple xterm but I don't even have the menu option 
for copy.

Thanks
Jay
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Please disregard my original post.
I didn't realize I could middle button on GUI apps.
Jay
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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-02 Thread Ken Herron
--On Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:14:34 AM -0500 Jay Strauss 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If I want to cut and paste, I have to go to the menu-edit-copy then I
can paste to FireFox.  It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.
Can't I do cut and paste without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't
have a keyboard shortcut.
Actually, yes, there are two clipboards. See 
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html. Many apps will support 
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, and Ctrl-V as shortcuts for the menu copy, cut, and paste 
commands. But of course for konsole those keystrokes go to the terminal 
session.

On top of that, if you're using KDE then you're probably running klipper. 
Klipper takes over some of the clipboard operation, so depending on how 
that's configured, things may work differently for you.

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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-02 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:14:34AM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote:
 It's like there are 2 clipboards or something.  Can't I do cut and paste 
 without mousing?  The menu-edit-copy doesn't have a keyboard shortcut.

It IS a little bizarre sometimes. :^/

You can add a copy keyboard shortcut to Konsole by going to
Settings-Configure Shortcuts...

There's a Copy command in there which, by default, has no keyboard shortcut.


You could also do the slightly-tedious (but understandable since this is
a terminal app):

  [Alt]
  pause...  (Session menu at the top will become selected)
  [Right]   (to move to the Edit menu)
  [Down](to 'pull down' the Edit menu;
 Copy is first, so will be selected)
  [Enter]   (to choose Edit)


Text selection (highlighting) in Konsole and then middle-click pasting
SHOULD work, though.  But it does seem there's a difference between
pasting the highlighted selection and pasting something you've Edit-Copy'd


BTW, quick example...  I can set [Alt]+[C] to be 'Copy' in my Konsole.
However, that makes it impossible (or difficult, at best) to send
an Alt-C sequence to a program I'm running _in_ the terminal.

Emacs, for example, seems to use Alt-C to capitalize words.
('foo foo foo' becomes 'Foo Foo Foo' if I hit Alt-C three times)

So be sure to pick some key sequence you don't need in the apps you'll be
running.  (Like [Alt]+[Ctrl]+[Shift]+[C] or something wacky :^) )

Good luck!


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Re: [vox-tech] Cut and paste

2004-10-02 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:06:13AM -0700, Ken Herron wrote:
 On top of that, if you're using KDE then you're probably running klipper. 
 Klipper takes over some of the clipboard operation, so depending on how 
 that's configured, things may work differently for you.

Unless you disabled it, like I did. :^)


To remove:
  Right-click the little 'clipboard-and-paper-with-a-'k'-on-it' icon in
  the System Tray in the Kicker panel and select 'Quit.'

  (It'll ask if you want it to start automatically next time you login.)


To add:
  Choose Klipper from the Utilities submenu of the K Menu


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