Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 06 Jan 05,  1:56 PM, Richard Harke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 13:33, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > On Thu 06 Jan 05,  1:14 PM, Richard Harke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:48, Ken Bloom wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0800
> > > >
> > > > "Robert G. Scofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux
> > > > > binder.
> > > > >
> > > > > But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message
> > > > > "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum
> > > > > sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> > > > >
> > > > > | mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?
> > > >
> > > > Assuming you mean md5sum -c, it means that nobody edited
> > > > sarge-i386-netinst.iso betweent he first check (run by md5sum) and the
> > > > second check (run by md5sum -c)
> > > >
> > > > the -c option means it should take a list of files and md5sums which
> > > > are the output of a previous md5sum command and use that to check the
> > > > appropriately named files in the current directory.
> > >
> > > You should download the file with the checksum, not just note the
> > > checksum.
> > >
> > > Use the checksum file as input to md5sum with the -c option
> > > for example:
> > >md5sum glarbfile.iso >checksumfile
> > > creates the checksum file
> > >md5sum -c checksumfile
> > > verifies it.
> >
> > What do you gain by checksumming individual files of a suspected badly
> > downloaded tarball versus checksumming the entire tarball?
>
> Very little, I guess. I had the impression from an earlier post that he
> was going to run md5sum on the iso, then eyeball compare with
> what was in the file.
> Richard

Was just curious; I eyeball it myself.   :)

Truth be told, I usually just check the first 4 digits and the last 4
digits.  I think you're the better role model here.  Sometimes I get a
little too facile with these kinds of things!

Pete


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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Richard Harke
On Thursday 06 January 2005 13:33, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> On Thu 06 Jan 05,  1:14 PM, Richard Harke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:48, Ken Bloom wrote:
> > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0800
> > >
> > > "Robert G. Scofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux
> > > > binder.
> > > >
> > > > But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message
> > > > "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum
> > > > sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> > > >
> > > > | mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?
> > >
> > > Assuming you mean md5sum -c, it means that nobody edited
> > > sarge-i386-netinst.iso betweent he first check (run by md5sum) and the
> > > second check (run by md5sum -c)
> > >
> > > the -c option means it should take a list of files and md5sums which
> > > are the output of a previous md5sum command and use that to check the
> > > appropriately named files in the current directory.
> >
> > You should download the file with the checksum, not just note the
> > checksum.
> >
> > Use the checksum file as input to md5sum with the -c option
> > for example:
> >md5sum glarbfile.iso >checksumfile
> > creates the checksum file
> >md5sum -c checksumfile
> > verifies it.
>
> What do you gain by checksumming individual files of a suspected badly
> downloaded tarball versus checksumming the entire tarball?
Very little, I guess. I had the impression from an earlier post that he
was going to run md5sum on the iso, then eyeball compare with
what was in the file.
Richard
>
> Pete
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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 06 Jan 05,  1:14 PM, Richard Harke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:48, Ken Bloom wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0800
> >
> > "Robert G. Scofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux
> > > binder.
> > >
> > > But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message
> > > "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> > >
> > > | mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?
> >
> > Assuming you mean md5sum -c, it means that nobody edited
> > sarge-i386-netinst.iso betweent he first check (run by md5sum) and the
> > second check (run by md5sum -c)
> >
> > the -c option means it should take a list of files and md5sums which are
> > the output of a previous md5sum command and use that to check the
> > appropriately named files in the current directory.
>
> You should download the file with the checksum, not just note the checksum.
>
> Use the checksum file as input to md5sum with the -c option
> for example:
>md5sum glarbfile.iso >checksumfile
> creates the checksum file
>md5sum -c checksumfile
> verifies it.

What do you gain by checksumming individual files of a suspected badly
downloaded tarball versus checksumming the entire tarball?

Pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Richard Harke
On Thursday 06 January 2005 11:48, Ken Bloom wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0800
>
> "Robert G. Scofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux
> > binder.
> >
> > But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message
> > "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> >
> > | mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?
>
> Assuming you mean md5sum -c, it means that nobody edited
> sarge-i386-netinst.iso betweent he first check (run by md5sum) and the
> second check (run by md5sum -c)
>
> the -c option means it should take a list of files and md5sums which are
> the output of a previous md5sum command and use that to check the
> appropriately named files in the current directory.
You should download the file with the checksum, not just note the checksum.
Use the checksum file as input to md5sum with the -c option
for example:
   md5sum glarbfile.iso >checksumfile
creates the checksum file
   md5sum -c checksumfile
verifies it. You don't need to type the name of the file you're testing as it 
is in the checksum file.
But beware -- my version of md5sum does not give an OK when the checksum 
matches; it only complains if it is wrong  (Unix style minimal output)
The checksum file contains the file name and the checksum as well as a flag
for binary or text. I have found that different versions of md5sum may put
these in the file in different orders. i.e., The downloaded checksum file may
not work with your version md5sum. In this case you can tweak the file
with your favourite text editor (or fall back to eyeballing it.)

A lot of files now are also signed cryptographically which is much stronger
well, not stronger as far as bit errors during download but much stronger
against crackers. It does require you to get the signers public key
somehow.

Richard Harke

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Ken Bloom
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:53:05 -0800
"Robert G. Scofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux
> binder.
> 
> But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message  
> "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> | mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?

Assuming you mean md5sum -c, it means that nobody edited
sarge-i386-netinst.iso betweent he first check (run by md5sum) and the
second check (run by md5sum -c)

the -c option means it should take a list of files and md5sums which are
the output of a previous md5sum command and use that to check the
appropriately named files in the current directory.

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 06 Jan 05, 10:53 AM, Robert G. Scofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message  
> "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso | 
> mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?

Got me on that one.  I've never heard of mdsum!   :)

Pete


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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:35, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

>
> Hi Bob,

Hi.
>
> You need to do two things:
>
>
> 1. Get the md5sum for the entire ISO file by doing:
>
>   $ md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso
>
>The output will look something like:
>
>   6c190153f506bdf1474c728b8e5fcb90  sarge-i386-netinst.iso

This is mine:  0930068d7e95fe3294c3c53cebfe818a  sarge-i386-netinst.iso
>
>
> 2. Get what the md5sum *should* be for that file.  This may or may not be
>tricky unless you remember where you downloaded the ISO file from.  If
>you do remember, go back to where you downloaded the file from and
>look for a file called
>
>   sarge-i386-netinst.041124.iso.md5.txt

Here's where I got my file:  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

I chose "netinst CD image, with Debian base" and picked "i386."

The problem is that when you choose to download the file you're not given a 
date or any md5sum file.  But I found a solution.  If you click on i386 to 
download, you're given the URL for the sarge iso in the Mozilla Firebird save 
box.  I've discovered that I can go to the URL box in Firebird and substitute 
"ftp" for "http" and then write in the URL from the save box to get into the 
Debian directories that contain sarge.  And those directories do contain a 
checksum file.  The present version is dated January 5th or 6th.  

So I'm going to delete my iso file.  Then I'm going to put the browser into 
ftp mode and write down the md5sum code for the latest version, and then I'm 
going to download the new iso.  And finally I'll run md5sum after the 
download.  I'll just compare the output from md5sum with what I wrote down.

Thanks for your help.  I'm saving all these posts to put in my Linux binder.

But here's a question.  What is the meaning of the message  
"sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK" when I run "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso | 
mdsum -c",  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"?

Bob
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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 06 Jan 05,  9:15 AM, Robert G. Scofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 17:51, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Robert G. Scofield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> >
> > Also, download the matching md5sum.  Then run "md5sum" on the ISO, and
> > compare.  _Then_ burn it, and try to boot it.
> >
> 
> Before you read this, I want everyone to know I have been reading man md5sum 
> and info md5sum.  This stuff is confusing.  Here's what I've found:
> 
> 1)  If I type "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso | mdsum -c", I get this nice 
> message:  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"
> 
> 2)  If I type "md5sum -c sarge-i386-netinst.iso", a bunch of stuff flys 
> across 
> the screen ending with this not nice message:  "md5sum: WARNING: 906 of 906 
> listed files could not be read"
> 
> 3)  If I type "md5sum -c sarge-i386-netinst.iso | more", I appear to get the 
> same type of information flying across the screen as in (2); things like 
> files can't be opened or read or found, but at the end there is no final 
> message about 906 of 906 files not being read.
> 
> 4)  Peter's great command, mount -o loop sarge-i386-netinst.iso /mnt, leads 
> to 
> this titillating file in sarge-i386-netinst.iso, "md5sum.txt."  The file 
> md5sum.txt lists hundreds and hundreds of files.  I guess what I'm supposed 
> to do is compare the file list in md5sum.txt to the output of some md5sum 
> command.  I suppose I could print md5sum.txt out and compare it to some list 
> of files that the command md5sum gives me.  But so far md5sum has not given 
> me a list like that found in md5sum.txt.  So far md5sum has given me the 
> three outputs listed in (1), (2), and (3) above.  A fourth output, from 
> "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso" gives me a long code followed by the name of 
> the iso file.
> 
> Can anyone suggest what I should do next?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Bob

Hi Bob,

You need to do two things:


1. Get the md5sum for the entire ISO file by doing:

  $ md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso

   The output will look something like:

  6c190153f506bdf1474c728b8e5fcb90  sarge-i386-netinst.iso


2. Get what the md5sum *should* be for that file.  This may or may not be
   tricky unless you remember where you downloaded the ISO file from.  If
   you do remember, go back to where you downloaded the file from and
   look for a file called

  sarge-i386-netinst.041124.iso.md5.txt

   This file should contain what the md5sum of sarge-i386-netinst.iso
   should be.  If the two md5sums are the same, then you're good to go.
   If they're different, you have an incomplete/bad copy of the file.

   If you don't remember where you downloaded the file from, I say it
   "might" be tricky because there are many versions of
   sarge-i386-netinst.iso.  The last one appears to have been released
   15-Dec-2004 and should have an md5sum of

  6418fafe99f5e686283582833530e1c3

   There's also one that was released 25-Nov-2004 which should have an
   md5sum of

  cad07d235677fdf4ca931a1395206aba



What you may not realize is that md5sum prints a (semi) unique string for a
file.  Remember I mentioned that an ISO is a filesystem within a file?  That
means it makes sense to talk of the md5sum of an ISO file in two different
ways:

   1. You can talk about the md5sum of all the individual files inside
  the ISO file.  There will be many.

   2. You can talk about the md5sum of the ISO file itself.  There will
  be just one.

You don't want to compute md5sums for all the files inside the ISO; it's not
necessary.  It would only be necessary if you *KNEW* one of the files was
corrupted, and wanted to figure out which one.

If you just want to know if the entire ISO is okay or not, you just need to
compare the md5sum of the entire ISO file with what the md5sum of the ISO
file should be.

Pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-06 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 17:51, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Robert G. Scofield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso
>
> Also, download the matching md5sum.  Then run "md5sum" on the ISO, and
> compare.  _Then_ burn it, and try to boot it.
>

Before you read this, I want everyone to know I have been reading man md5sum 
and info md5sum.  This stuff is confusing.  Here's what I've found:

1)  If I type "md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso | mdsum -c", I get this nice 
message:  "sarge-i386-netinst.iso: OK"

2)  If I type "md5sum -c sarge-i386-netinst.iso", a bunch of stuff flys across 
the screen ending with this not nice message:  "md5sum: WARNING: 906 of 906 
listed files could not be read"

3)  If I type "md5sum -c sarge-i386-netinst.iso | more", I appear to get the 
same type of information flying across the screen as in (2); things like 
files can't be opened or read or found, but at the end there is no final 
message about 906 of 906 files not being read.

4)  Peter's great command, mount -o loop sarge-i386-netinst.iso /mnt, leads to 
this titillating file in sarge-i386-netinst.iso, "md5sum.txt."  The file 
md5sum.txt lists hundreds and hundreds of files.  I guess what I'm supposed 
to do is compare the file list in md5sum.txt to the output of some md5sum 
command.  I suppose I could print md5sum.txt out and compare it to some list 
of files that the command md5sum gives me.  But so far md5sum has not given 
me a list like that found in md5sum.txt.  So far md5sum has given me the 
three outputs listed in (1), (2), and (3) above.  A fourth output, from 
"md5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso" gives me a long code followed by the name of 
the iso file.

Can anyone suggest what I should do next?

Thank you.

Bob

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 05 Jan 05,  4:04 PM, Robert G. Scofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 15:10, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > 
> > Also, just to make sure the iso file isn't corrupted, do:
> >
> >file sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> >
> 
> That's interesting because it says the CD is bootable.  But I think I need to 
> try the suggestions of Marc and Jonathan.  I did choose "data CD" and I don't 
> remember if I chose "iso."  I've got to get to a meeting.  I'll try to 
> re-burn later tonight, or tomorrow.
 
Don't forget Rick's idea.  md5sum was invented (partially) for this very
purpose!
 
> > and do (as root):
> >
> >mount -o loop sarge-i386-netinst.iso /mnt
> >ls /mnt
> 
> I found this to be a fascinating command.  It shows a lot of files and 
> directories that do not show up if I mount the CD itself in the regular 
> manner.  And those files suggest ways to boot by way of a floppy should the 
> CD not boot.  I don't know what this command does exactly, but it's nice.

An ISO image is a filesystem, just like root and /home.  Whereas root and
/home are on your hard drive as ext3 (or reiserfs) filesystems,
sarg-i386-net.inst.iso is a filesystem contained within a file using the
iso9660 filesystem.

Having a filesystem in an actual *file* may sound wierd, but it's not so
wierd when you consider that your home partition resides in a "file" called
/dev/hdb2 (or whatever).  Everything is a file.

You can mount iso9660 filesystems just like you can mount root and /home.
The difference is, you need to tell mount to handle it a bit differently,
because it IS different.  "-o loop" tells mount to do a "loop mount" of a
file called "sarge-i386-netinst.iso" onto the /mnt directory.

A very useful command to know.

> So here's a question.  When one is done with this command, does one issue
> some

You can umount loop mounted images just like you can umount "regular"
filesystems.  Just "umount /mnt".

Pete

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Robert G. Scofield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso

Also, download the matching md5sum.  Then run "md5sum" on the ISO, and
compare.  _Then_ burn it, and try to boot it.

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 15:10, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> Also, just to make sure the iso file isn't corrupted, do:
>
>file sarge-i386-netinst.iso
>

That's interesting because it says the CD is bootable.  But I think I need to 
try the suggestions of Marc and Jonathan.  I did choose "data CD" and I don't 
remember if I chose "iso."  I've got to get to a meeting.  I'll try to 
re-burn later tonight, or tomorrow.


> and do (as root):
>
>mount -o loop sarge-i386-netinst.iso /mnt
>ls /mnt

I found this to be a fascinating command.  It shows a lot of files and 
directories that do not show up if I mount the CD itself in the regular 
manner.  And those files suggest ways to boot by way of a floppy should the 
CD not boot.  I don't know what this command does exactly, but it's nice.

So here's a question.  When one is done with this command, does one issue some 
sort of umount command?

Thanks Pete, and Mark and Jonathan.

Bob


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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Very likely you burned a "data cd", since that is one of the selections 
in the initial k3b window.  Instead, you need to burn the iso image to 
the disk.  In k3b you can do this by selecting tools -> cd -> burn cd image.

Jonathan
Robert G. Scofield wrote:
I've been reading about the Debian network installation and decided to try it.  
As I understand it you download a relatively small file to burn to  a CD, and 
then later install what you need.

So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso
But when I burn it, it doesn't boot.  I downloaded it with Firebird, and there 
was no option to set the files to binary.  I assume that the files must have 
been set to binary by default.

I used K3B to burn the CD.  In Settings I checked the box for copying system 
files.  There was no special box to check for burning a bootable CD like 
there is in my Windows CD burner.  (I actually tried my Windows CD burner, 
and that led to a disaster which I won't get into here.)

So does anybody know what I've done wrong.  I know my BIOS is set for booting 
CD's because I was booting Knoppix last night.

Thanks.
Bob
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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Marc Elliot Hall
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 03:05:02PM -0800, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

> I used K3B to burn the CD.  In Settings I checked the box for copying system 
> files.  There was no special box to check for burning a bootable CD like 
> there is in my Windows CD burner.  (I actually tried my Windows CD burner, 
> and that led to a disaster which I won't get into here.)

K3B has an option for burning an .iso image rather than a set of files as a 
project...  You don't go through the "New Project" or "Add Files" steps... Just 
use the Tools menu and choose CD  > Burn CD Image, then select the .iso file 
you downloaded. 

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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:10:43PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > I used K3B to burn the CD.
> 
> Never heard of k3b, but try this:

Never used it, but heard good things about it.  When I finally migrate
some bits of Melissa's old desktop into my desktop (or some new PC), I'll
definitely be checking it out for our burning needs.

It lives here:  http://www.k3b.org/


-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 05 Jan 05,  3:05 PM, Robert G. Scofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I've been reading about the Debian network installation and decided to try
> it.  As I understand it you download a relatively small file to burn to  a
> CD, and then later install what you need.
> 
> So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso
> 
> But when I burn it, it doesn't boot.

Have you tried mounting the disk (as opposed to booting it)?  Maybe you
burned the iso file instead of the filesystem that the iso contains?

> I downloaded it with Firebird, and
> there was no option to set the files to binary.  I assume that the files
> must have been set to binary by default.

Yeah, modern browsers usually do the right thing.

> I used K3B to burn the CD.

Never heard of k3b, but try this:

   cdrecord -v -data speed=99 dev=X sarge-i386-netinst.iso

where X is the device name of your cd burner (ie- /dev/hdc, /dev/hdd,
etc).

Also, just to make sure the iso file isn't corrupted, do:

   file sarge-i386-netinst.iso

and do (as root):

   mount -o loop sarge-i386-netinst.iso /mnt
   ls /mnt

Pete

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[vox-tech] Debian Net Install Question

2005-01-05 Thread Robert G. Scofield
I've been reading about the Debian network installation and decided to try it.  
As I understand it you download a relatively small file to burn to  a CD, and 
then later install what you need.

So I downloaded this file:  sarge-i386-netinst.iso

But when I burn it, it doesn't boot.  I downloaded it with Firebird, and there 
was no option to set the files to binary.  I assume that the files must have 
been set to binary by default.

I used K3B to burn the CD.  In Settings I checked the box for copying system 
files.  There was no special box to check for burning a bootable CD like 
there is in my Windows CD burner.  (I actually tried my Windows CD burner, 
and that led to a disaster which I won't get into here.)

So does anybody know what I've done wrong.  I know my BIOS is set for booting 
CD's because I was booting Knoppix last night.

Thanks.

Bob
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