Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Rod Roark
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 05:06 am, Walther The Writer wrote:
> I didn't mount floppy. What I did was cp name_of_the_file.txt /dev/fd0
> sould I mount it first?

You can cp a file to /dev/fd0, and it does exactly that.  It
overlays anything already on the disk, which in your case
would be the boot sector, FAT and other parts of the
filesystem.  Pretty cool, but not what you want.  ;-)

So at this point you need to re-format the diskette, and
then either learn about mtools (recommended) or do something
like this:

$ mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
$ cp somefile /mnt/floppy
$ umount /mnt/floppy

Hope this helps.

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> Walther..
> >
> >How did you mount the floppy (if at all)?
> >How did you copy the file?
> >
> >Persoanlly, I usually use MTools for stuff like this:
> >
> >  $ mcopy file.txt a:
> >
> >
> >However, it'd be reasonable to do the normal "mount", "cp" and "umount"
> >that you'd do with an ext2-formatted floppy.

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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Mark K. Kim
Yes.  Or use mcopy.

-Mark


On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:

> I didn't mount floppy. What I did was cp name_of_the_file.txt /dev/fd0
> sould I mount it first?
>
> Walther..
> >
> >How did you mount the floppy (if at all)?
> >How did you copy the file?
> >
> >Persoanlly, I usually use MTools for stuff like this:
> >
> >  $ mcopy file.txt a:
> >
> >
> >However, it'd be reasonable to do the normal "mount", "cp" and "umount"
> >that you'd do with an ext2-formatted floppy.
> >
> >-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Walther The Writer
I didn't mount floppy. What I did was cp name_of_the_file.txt /dev/fd0
sould I mount it first?

Walther..
>
>How did you mount the floppy (if at all)?
>How did you copy the file?
>
>Persoanlly, I usually use MTools for stuff like this:
>
>  $ mcopy file.txt a:
>
>
>However, it'd be reasonable to do the normal "mount", "cp" and "umount"
>that you'd do with an ext2-formatted floppy.
>
>-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:59:25PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> it's /dev/fd0, not /dev/floppy.

It's probably dependent on distro, actually.  Sometimes they
symlink for 'friendliness,' for example.


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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Rod Roark
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:47 am, Walther The Writer wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> That is exactly how it was done, but...

You didn't say what method you used to copy.  I always use
mcopy for this.  If you mount and cp and then forget to
umount before removing the floppy, bad things will happen.

There's also the likely possibility that your diskette went
bad.

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> Walther.
> 
> >Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then transfer
> >the disk back to Windows.
> >
> >-Mark
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying
> >> to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy
> >> isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
> >> and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?

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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Mark K. Kim
it's /dev/fd0, not /dev/floppy.

-Mark


On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, David Hummel wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:43:53PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:
>
> What day is it?
>
> > > Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying to
> > > open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy isn't
> > > formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
> > > and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then
> > transfer the disk back to Windows.
>
> This shouldn't be necessary.  Do the following:
>
>   fdformat /dev/floppy
>   mkdosfs /dev/floppy
>
> and you should have no problems reading files from the disk in Linux or
> Windows (except for the obvious CRLF problem -> dos2unix/unix2dos).
>
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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 03:47:14AM -0800, Walther The Writer wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> That is exactly how it was done, but...

How did you mount the floppy (if at all)?
How did you copy the file?

Persoanlly, I usually use MTools for stuff like this:

  $ mcopy file.txt a:


However, it'd be reasonable to do the normal "mount", "cp" and "umount"
that you'd do with an ext2-formatted floppy.

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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread David Hummel
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:43:53PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:

What day is it?

> > Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying to
> > open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy isn't
> > formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
> > and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?
>
> Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then
> transfer the disk back to Windows.

This shouldn't be necessary.  Do the following:

  fdformat /dev/floppy
  mkdosfs /dev/floppy

and you should have no problems reading files from the disk in Linux or
Windows (except for the obvious CRLF problem -> dos2unix/unix2dos).

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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread p
the zeroth order approximation to "why" is that linux can read floppies
formatted under windows, but windows can't read floppies formatted under
linux.

the first order approximation involves filesystem types.

pete



On Mon 22 Sep 03,  4:43 PM, Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then transfer
> the disk back to Windows.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying
> > to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy
> > isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
> > and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?
> >
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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Walther The Writer
Mark,

That is exactly how it was done, but...

Walther.



>Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then transfer
>the disk back to Windows.
>
>-Mark
>
>
>On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying
>> to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy
>> isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
>> and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?
>>
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Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Mark K. Kim
Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then transfer
the disk back to Windows.

-Mark


On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying
> to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy
> isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
> and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?
>
> Walther.
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[vox-tech] Formating problem

2003-09-22 Thread Walther The Writer
Hi all,

Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying
to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy
isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows
and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions?

Walther.
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