Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
Hopefully the problem will be solved. Used dogpile.com to find a local guy who fixes Linux (he seemed to know his business over the phone), he'll charge me $85 for the fix, will come to my place to do the work ... very reasonable. So hopefully by Tues of next week I will be a happy camper and on my way, but thank you for the Linux comraderie. --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Rick Moen wrote: From: Rick Moen Subject: Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 12:10 PM Quoting Dr. Denny Scronek (pasze...@yahoo.com): > "Can I ssh to it?" Doesn't compute. Try again please. To translate, Bill was asking if you're set up so he can remotely login to the command line of your machine rather than needing to visit your house physically just in order to help you solve your problem. It would certainly be nice for you if someone's got the time and opportunity to visit you physically to help you. (I'm actually far too distant, down close to Stanford University.) Because that might not happen, and in order to assist while you weigh options, here's something you can do that will gather potentially very useful debugging information: 1. Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 . You should see a black-background text console screen with a system login prompt. Provide your username, then when prompted, your password. I expect you will successfully login, and will then be at a standard Linux system (bash shell) command-line prompt. Do: cd /var/log less X.org.log The 'less' program is a page-at-a-time display program (the name being a sort-of pun on the name of the 'more' program) that allows you to go up and down through the contents of an ASCII plaintext or similar file, including most logfiles. In looking at X.org.log, you will be seeing logged messages created when the X server process (the display engine) and related process start up, e.g., when you attempt login. The messages are (sorry!) a bit verbose, chattily talking about various aspects of the video-related hardware as it is probed and set to operating modes. What you are looking for is lines that indicate a serious problem of some sort. For example, you might see lines showing a series of initialisation failures starting with inability to enable video hardware acceleration, with the result that the AIGLX driver module cannot be loaded, with the result that the X server process died. One of the reasons to become familiar with the Linux command line is so you can deal effectively with such situations. For example, if you think you spot something meaningful in /var/log/X.org.log, you might desire to copy it onto, say, a USB flash drive or onto a remote shell account you have on a separate machine somewhere on the Internet. So, it would be handy to know how to manually mount a USB flash drive onto /mnt (or wherever), and it would be handy to know how to 'scp' (secure network copy) a file accross the Internet, e.g.: cd /var/log scp X.org.log pasze...@someinternethost.com: Unless you happen to be familiar with how to do such things, it might be more feasible to just jot down some notes on paper about what you find in X.org.log. While you are in /var/log/, it's a good idea to also look around to see if there are any other logs whose entries at the time you attempt graphical login might give clues. ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
Quoting Dr. Denny Scronek (pasze...@yahoo.com): > "Can I ssh to it?" Doesn't compute. Try again please. To translate, Bill was asking if you're set up so he can remotely login to the command line of your machine rather than needing to visit your house physically just in order to help you solve your problem. It would certainly be nice for you if someone's got the time and opportunity to visit you physically to help you. (I'm actually far too distant, down close to Stanford University.) Because that might not happen, and in order to assist while you weigh options, here's something you can do that will gather potentially very useful debugging information: 1. Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 . You should see a black-background text console screen with a system login prompt. Provide your username, then when prompted, your password. I expect you will successfully login, and will then be at a standard Linux system (bash shell) command-line prompt. Do: cd /var/log less X.org.log The 'less' program is a page-at-a-time display program (the name being a sort-of pun on the name of the 'more' program) that allows you to go up and down through the contents of an ASCII plaintext or similar file, including most logfiles. In looking at X.org.log, you will be seeing logged messages created when the X server process (the display engine) and related process start up, e.g., when you attempt login. The messages are (sorry!) a bit verbose, chattily talking about various aspects of the video-related hardware as it is probed and set to operating modes. What you are looking for is lines that indicate a serious problem of some sort. For example, you might see lines showing a series of initialisation failures starting with inability to enable video hardware acceleration, with the result that the AIGLX driver module cannot be loaded, with the result that the X server process died. One of the reasons to become familiar with the Linux command line is so you can deal effectively with such situations. For example, if you think you spot something meaningful in /var/log/X.org.log, you might desire to copy it onto, say, a USB flash drive or onto a remote shell account you have on a separate machine somewhere on the Internet. So, it would be handy to know how to manually mount a USB flash drive onto /mnt (or wherever), and it would be handy to know how to 'scp' (secure network copy) a file accross the Internet, e.g.: cd /var/log scp X.org.log pasze...@someinternethost.com: Unless you happen to be familiar with how to do such things, it might be more feasible to just jot down some notes on paper about what you find in X.org.log. While you are in /var/log/, it's a good idea to also look around to see if there are any other logs whose entries at the time you attempt graphical login might give clues. ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
On 06/03/2011 11:19 AM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: > "Can I ssh to it?" Doesn't compute. Try again please. > > --- On *Thu, 6/2/11, Bill Broadley //* wrote: > > > From: Bill Broadley > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem > To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:09 AM > > On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: > > 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. > > > > 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't > repair a > > pc to save my life. > > > > 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so > > > > 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? > > When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. > > Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I > suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing > so for free. > > If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home > internet. > > First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or > root? What is not addressed in the above is if the OS has an sshd installed. The default for Ubuntu is to NOT install sshd. So no you would not be able to remotely login in via SSH. Other versions may install sshd, but it may be blocked at the router level. Tony ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
Just tried this. Got to a terminal session. doesn't like startxfce. Next. --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Lance Geroso wrote: From: Lance Geroso Subject: Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem To: "lugod's technical discussion forum" Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:21 AM Hi, I didn't see the posts you made but... if you run XFCE try this -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions-org-member-success-stories-23/xubuntu-xfce4-infinite-login-problem-simple-workaround-789843/ On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Bill Broadley wrote: > On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: >> 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. >> >> 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a >> pc to save my life. >> >> 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so >> >> 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? >> When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. > > Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I > suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing > so for free. > > If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home > internet. > > First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or root? > > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > vox-tech@lists.lugod.org > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
"Can I ssh to it?" Doesn't compute. Try again please. --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Bill Broadley wrote: From: Bill Broadley Subject: Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:09 AM On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: > 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. > > 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a > pc to save my life. > > 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so > > 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? > When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing so for free. If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home internet. First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or root? ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
When I do that it repeats: uubuntu login: four ... count them ... 4 times horizontally across the screen. OK, I think I'm in. Looks wonky with the 4 copies but doable. Next. I'm actually starting to have hope for the first time in months. Keep coming. --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Bill Broadley wrote: From: Bill Broadley Subject: Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:09 AM On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: > 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. > > 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a > pc to save my life. > > 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so > > 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? > When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing so for free. If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home internet. First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or root? ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
Hi, I didn't see the posts you made but... if you run XFCE try this -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions-org-member-success-stories-23/xubuntu-xfce4-infinite-login-problem-simple-workaround-789843/ On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Bill Broadley wrote: > On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: >> 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. >> >> 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a >> pc to save my life. >> >> 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so >> >> 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? >> When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. > > Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I > suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing > so for free. > > If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home > internet. > > First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or root? > > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > vox-tech@lists.lugod.org > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
On 06/01/2011 03:27 PM, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: > 1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. > > 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a > pc to save my life. > > 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so > > 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? > When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. Does it have a public IP address? I.e. can I ssh to it? If so I suspect I or someone else could help you remotely. I'd consider doing so for free. If not there are a few tricks for remote access assuming you have home internet. First thing though, can you hit control-alt-f1, login as yourself or root? ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] I'm the guy with the infinite login problem
1. Thank you all for your helpoful emails. 2. I am a pc idiot and I'm too old to change. I use a pc, can't repair a pc to save my life. 3. My pc is a tool and I need it repaired, so 4. Who wants to make some $$ fixing my beast? How much do you charge? When can we get this done? I live close to Sac State. Let's try that.___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
