Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: NOARP mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) The fact that the traceroute fails at the Linksys is wierd. If it failed outside your network, I could see the problem being an ISP router issue... but you can't even get a response from your own router. I was hoping an explanation might be found in a dead route to a vpn, but your response above indicates no dead routes on your computer. It is generally best to troubleshoot connectivity problems with IP numbers first... then when all that works, use DNS names to check out your DNS resolution. Does traceroute work for other public IP addresses? -- --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
On Monday 12 March 2007 02:01:59 am Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: NOARP mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) The fact that the traceroute fails at the Linksys is wierd. If it failed outside your network, I could see the problem being an ISP router issue... but you can't even get a response from your own router. I was hoping an explanation might be found in a dead route to a vpn, but your response above indicates no dead routes on your computer. It is generally best to troubleshoot connectivity problems with IP numbers first... then when all that works, use DNS names to check out your DNS resolution. Does traceroute work for other public IP addresses? Nope, it fails with all public IP addresses. If this were a router issue, though, wouldn't I be unable to get out at all? -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. (Mark Twain) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Monday 12 March 2007 02:01:59 am Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: NOARP mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) The fact that the traceroute fails at the Linksys is wierd. If it failed outside your network, I could see the problem being an ISP router issue... but you can't even get a response from your own router. I was hoping an explanation might be found in a dead route to a vpn, but your response above indicates no dead routes on your computer. It is generally best to troubleshoot connectivity problems with IP numbers first... then when all that works, use DNS names to check out your DNS resolution. Does traceroute work for other public IP addresses? Nope, it fails with all public IP addresses. If this were a router issue, though, wouldn't I be unable to get out at all? No... it sounds like something is blocking the traceroute packets, and I am betting on your Linksys. Note that on windows, tracert uses ICMP packets, and on *nix uses UDP packets unless you use the -I option. [1] Since http connections use TCP packets, you probably have two different problems... trying out -I and looking through your Linksys configuration should turn up the problem. [1] http://joesbitbucket.blogspot.com/2006/10/linux-traceroute-vs-windows-tracert.html -- --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
On Monday 12 March 2007 09:24:52 am Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Monday 12 March 2007 02:01:59 am Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: NOARP mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) The fact that the traceroute fails at the Linksys is wierd. If it failed outside your network, I could see the problem being an ISP router issue... but you can't even get a response from your own router. I was hoping an explanation might be found in a dead route to a vpn, but your response above indicates no dead routes on your computer. It is generally best to troubleshoot connectivity problems with IP numbers first... then when all that works, use DNS names to check out your DNS resolution. Does traceroute work for other public IP addresses? Nope, it fails with all public IP addresses. If this were a router issue, though, wouldn't I be unable to get out at all? No... it sounds like something is blocking the traceroute packets, and I am betting on your Linksys. Note that on windows, tracert uses ICMP packets, and on *nix uses UDP packets unless you use the -I option. [1] Since http connections use TCP packets, you probably have two different problems... trying out -I and looking through your Linksys configuration should turn up the problem. [1] http://joesbitbucket.blogspot.com/2006/10/linux-traceroute-vs-windows-trace rt.html $traceroute -I www.extensiondlc.net gave me exactly the same output: * * *, etc. I went ahead and replaced the router, and while I still can't reach the domain in question, at least now I know my router isn't to blame, unless something *really* weird is happening on my network. Here's the newest traceroute: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute www.extensiondlc.net traceroute to www.extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.344 ms 0.566 ms 0.275 ms 2 adsl-63-207-85-254.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (63.207.85.254) 8.614 ms 8.041 ms 7.606 ms 3 dist2-vlan50.scrm01.pbi.net (64.171.152.67) 7.721 ms 7.329 ms 7.512 ms 4 151.164.93.214 (151.164.93.214) 7.670 ms 8.414 ms 7.937 ms 5 bb1-p13-3.crsfca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.43.233) 11.351 ms 12.441 ms 12.935 ms 6 ex1-p3-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.41.101) 15.630 ms 14.359 ms 14.368 ms 7 ge3-17-1000M.ar2.SJC2.gblx.net (64.212.107.29) 20.968 ms 20.909 ms 22.395 ms 8 te1-1-10G.ar1.MIA2.gblx.net (67.17.108.62) 98.720 ms 98.969 ms 99.234 ms 9 INTERNAP.Tengigabitethernet2-2.ar1.MIA2.gblx.net (64.212.16.166) 98.212 ms 78.993 ms 78.186 ms 10 border5.pc2.bbnet2.mia003.pnap.net (69.25.0.77) 170.763 ms 171.136 ms 207.161 ms 11 webhosting-9.border5.mia003.pnap.net (216.52.162.66) 78.639 ms 79.149 ms 78.487 ms 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * etc. The trick now is convincing the folks at Webhosting.net that the problem is closer to them than it is to me. -- Richard S. Crawford
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness - RESOLVED
Turns out the hosting company's IDN had blocked my IP address, apparently for some unusual traffic last Thursday -- which was me optimizing our database. Thanks for your suggestions and help, y'all. -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. (Mark Twain) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. (Mark Twain) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? -- --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
On Sunday 11 March 2007 09:39:29 pm Jeff Newmiller wrote: Richard S. Crawford wrote: Over the past few days, I've been unable to reach my work website, http://www.extensiondlc.net, from home. I can reach just about every other website in the world just fine; it's just that one (and its various subdomains) that are causing the problems. Furthermore, I can reach the host, http://whsecure.net, just fine, but no subdomains. This problem is only happening at home. When I try traceroute from any of the computers on my network, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ traceroute extensiondlc.net traceroute to extensiondlc.net (66.232.56.196), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * ... 30 * * * I get the same output no matter which site I try to traceroute to. In my experience, if I get timeouts at every instance in a traceroute, it means my connection is down; yet, as I mentioned, I can get to just about everywhere on the web except for that one domain just fine. I have already contacted my DSL provider, who insisted (naturally) that nothing was wrong, and that they could not escalate my call. Can anyone offer some insight?\ What is the output of netstat -nr and ip link from your home machines? Also, what is doing the routing for your home network? One of your linux boxes, or a commercial router? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ip link 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,1 mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,1 mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:30:bd:b3:f9:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: sit0: NOARP mtu 1480 qdisc noop link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0 I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. (Mark Twain) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 09:53:12PM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: I've got a Linksys router doing my routing for me. :) Have you tried power-cycling the Linksys ? Maybe it's lost its mind. ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Internet Connectivity Weirdness
On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:09:10 pm Troy Arnold wrote: Have you tried power-cycling the Linksys ? Maybe it's lost its mind. Yeah, a couple of times. That it's lost its mind isn't too remote a possibility. It's a pretty old one (dating to 2000, I think). -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. (Mark Twain) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
