Re: [vox-tech] OT: DSL Filters

2003-10-17 Thread Marc Elliot Hall
MB wrote:
I have not used any of these, but I can imagine that they all work 
equally as well.  I could not tell from your diagrams that you had 
proposed using 2-line filters, but if you have a two line phone, then I 
would use a 2-line filter.
After due consideration of price, convenience, and aesthetics, I decided 
to use a modular two-line to line 1/line 2 adapter for this... the 
two-line filters ran in the US$13-US$18 range, while the modular adapter 
was US$2.50. So, now my wall jack has an adapter plug on it with two 
modular cables running to the phone with the line filter is on line 2; 
line 1 is unfiltered; and everything works as it's supposed to. Although 
it IS ugly :^(

Thanks for your input, though :^)

MB

Marc Elliot Hall wrote:

MB wrote:

Have you tried searching the web for two line filters?

http://www.twacomm.com/Catalog/Model_900LCC-2F-50.htm

bottom of:
http://www.2wire.com/office/adap_fil.html
http://www.telephonestuff.com/Catalog/Jmp_Suttle/Dept_ID_302.htm

This would solve your problem?

Yes, I have searched for two-line filters. Thank you for the links. 
However, my question was:

I have a bunch of two-line phones; and I have two phone lines.

Originally, my DSL was associated with my primary number. However, 
my provider decided to stop doing the DSL thing, which prompted me 
to find another ISP. To ensure seamless service, I activated DSL on 
the second line and then cancelled DSL on the primary number.

So, now I want to use my two-line phones with, get this, BOTH phone 
lines. Unfortunately, although they have two pairs of pins at each 
connector, it appears that my line filters (mPHASE Technologies 
model DFMU2PL1001) do not pass the second line signal through to the 
phones. Leaving the filter off allows me to use the second line, but 
periodically disrupts the DSL service and results in a low 
signal-to-noise ratio. I have tried different phone sets and 
different filters to eliminate damaged hardware as the cause of this 
problem.




Has anyone else experienced similar issues with multi-line phones? 
Were you able to resolve the problem without resorting to a filter 
at the service entrance? Can anyone recommend a line filter that 
will pass through signals on multiple pairs?


I'm looking for a RECOMMENDATION here -- not an unweighted link. Have 
you used and do you recommend one of these products? Do you recommend 
these vendors?



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Re: [vox-tech] OT: DSL Filters

2003-10-15 Thread MB
I have not used any of these, but I can imagine that they all work 
equally as well.  I could not tell from your diagrams that you had 
proposed using 2-line filters, but if you have a two line phone, then I 
would use a 2-line filter.

MB

Marc Elliot Hall wrote:

MB wrote:

Have you tried searching the web for two line filters?

http://www.twacomm.com/Catalog/Model_900LCC-2F-50.htm

bottom of:
http://www.2wire.com/office/adap_fil.html
http://www.telephonestuff.com/Catalog/Jmp_Suttle/Dept_ID_302.htm

This would solve your problem?

Yes, I have searched for two-line filters. Thank you for the links. 
However, my question was:

I have a bunch of two-line phones; and I have two phone lines.

Originally, my DSL was associated with my primary number. However, 
my provider decided to stop doing the DSL thing, which prompted me 
to find another ISP. To ensure seamless service, I activated DSL on 
the second line and then cancelled DSL on the primary number.

So, now I want to use my two-line phones with, get this, BOTH phone 
lines. Unfortunately, although they have two pairs of pins at each 
connector, it appears that my line filters (mPHASE Technologies 
model DFMU2PL1001) do not pass the second line signal through to the 
phones. Leaving the filter off allows me to use the second line, but 
periodically disrupts the DSL service and results in a low 
signal-to-noise ratio. I have tried different phone sets and 
different filters to eliminate damaged hardware as the cause of this 
problem.



Has anyone else experienced similar issues with multi-line phones? 
Were you able to resolve the problem without resorting to a filter 
at the service entrance? Can anyone recommend a line filter that 
will pass through signals on multiple pairs?

I'm looking for a RECOMMENDATION here -- not an unweighted link. Have 
you used and do you recommend one of these products? Do you recommend 
these vendors?



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Re: [vox-tech] OT: DSL Filters

2003-10-15 Thread Marc Elliot Hall
MB wrote:
Have you tried searching the web for two line filters?

http://www.twacomm.com/Catalog/Model_900LCC-2F-50.htm

bottom of:
http://www.2wire.com/office/adap_fil.html
http://www.telephonestuff.com/Catalog/Jmp_Suttle/Dept_ID_302.htm

This would solve your problem?

Yes, I have searched for two-line filters. Thank you for the links. 
However, my question was:

I have a bunch of two-line phones; and I have two phone lines.

Originally, my DSL was associated with my primary number. However, my 
provider decided to stop doing the DSL thing, which prompted me to 
find another ISP. To ensure seamless service, I activated DSL on the 
second line and then cancelled DSL on the primary number.

So, now I want to use my two-line phones with, get this, BOTH phone 
lines. Unfortunately, although they have two pairs of pins at each 
connector, it appears that my line filters (mPHASE Technologies model 
DFMU2PL1001) do not pass the second line signal through to the phones. 
Leaving the filter off allows me to use the second line, but 
periodically disrupts the DSL service and results in a low 
signal-to-noise ratio. I have tried different phone sets and different 
filters to eliminate damaged hardware as the cause of this problem.


Has anyone else experienced similar issues with multi-line phones? 
Were you able to resolve the problem without resorting to a filter at 
the service entrance? Can anyone recommend a line filter that will 
pass through signals on multiple pairs?
I'm looking for a RECOMMENDATION here -- not an unweighted link. Have 
you used and do you recommend one of these products? Do you recommend 
these vendors?

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Re: [vox-tech] OT: DSL Filters

2003-10-15 Thread MB
Marc,

Have you tried searching the web for two line filters?

http://www.twacomm.com/Catalog/Model_900LCC-2F-50.htm

bottom of:
http://www.2wire.com/office/adap_fil.html
http://www.telephonestuff.com/Catalog/Jmp_Suttle/Dept_ID_302.htm

This would solve your problem?

MB

Marc Elliot Hall wrote:

I have a bunch of two-line phones; and I have two phone lines.

Originally, my DSL was associated with my primary number. However, my 
provider decided to stop doing the DSL thing, which prompted me to 
find another ISP. To ensure seamless service, I activated DSL on the 
second line and then cancelled DSL on the primary number.

So, now I want to use my two-line phones with, get this, BOTH phone 
lines. Unfortunately, although they have two pairs of pins at each 
connector, it appears that my line filters (mPHASE Technologies model 
DFMU2PL1001) do not pass the second line signal through to the phones. 
Leaving the filter off allows me to use the second line, but 
periodically disrupts the DSL service and results in a low 
signal-to-noise ratio. I have tried different phone sets and different 
filters to eliminate damaged hardware as the cause of this problem.

Bad ASCII art:

Current config, one voice line working:

service entrance
 line 1--> ===0+
 line 2 --> ===0===< DSL MODEM >===+|
   |+=\==[phone 1]
   +^=/
   ||
   |+=\==[phone 2]
   +^=/
   ||
   |+=\==[phone 3]
   +==/
Desired config, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1--> ===0+
 line 2 --> ===0===< DSL MODEM >===+|
   ||=\/==\[phone 1]
   ||=/\==/
   ||
   ||=\/==\[phone 2]
   ||=/\==/
   ||
   ||=\/==\[phone 3]
   ||=/\==/
I could get a filter for the service entrance and bypass it just for 
the DSL; but that would limit my flexibility to relocate the DSL modem 
for my home network -- something I plan to do in the future, as it's 
an eyesore hanging off the wall in my library, at present.

Alternate config 1, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1--> ===0\||
 line 2 --> ===0/  ||
 Splitter --> ||  ||===\[phone 1]
   0===< DSL MODEM >  ||===/
  ||
  ||===\[phone 2]
  ||===/
  ||
  ||===\[phone 3]
  ||===/
I could also get an adapter that splits line 1 and line 2 into 
separate cable runs, allowing individual filters for each cable and 
thus bypassing the one-signal-per filter problem. However, I already 
have enough junk hanging out of my wall jacks as it is; and doing this 
for all three of my two-line extensions would be a serious PITA.

Alternate config 2, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1--> ==0==||
 line 2 --> ==0===< DSL MODEM >==||
 ||===\[phone 1]
 ||===/
 ||
 ||===\[phone 2]
 ||===/
 ||
 ||===\[phone 3]
 ||===/
Has anyone else experienced similar issues with multi-line phones? 
Were you able to resolve the problem without resorting to a filter at 
the service entrance? Can anyone recommend a line filter that will 
pass through signals on multiple pairs?



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[vox-tech] OT: DSL Filters

2003-10-15 Thread Marc Elliot Hall
I have a bunch of two-line phones; and I have two phone lines.

Originally, my DSL was associated with my primary number. However, my 
provider decided to stop doing the DSL thing, which prompted me to find 
another ISP. To ensure seamless service, I activated DSL on the second 
line and then cancelled DSL on the primary number.

So, now I want to use my two-line phones with, get this, BOTH phone 
lines. Unfortunately, although they have two pairs of pins at each 
connector, it appears that my line filters (mPHASE Technologies model 
DFMU2PL1001) do not pass the second line signal through to the phones. 
Leaving the filter off allows me to use the second line, but 
periodically disrupts the DSL service and results in a low 
signal-to-noise ratio. I have tried different phone sets and different 
filters to eliminate damaged hardware as the cause of this problem.

Bad ASCII art:

Current config, one voice line working:

service entrance
 line 1 --> ===0+
 line 2 --> ===0===< DSL MODEM >===+|
   |+=\==[phone 1]
   +^=/
   ||
   |+=\==[phone 2]
   +^=/
   ||
   |+=\==[phone 3]
   +==/
Desired config, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1 --> ===0+
 line 2 --> ===0===< DSL MODEM >===+|
   ||=\/==\[phone 1]
   ||=/ \==/
   ||
   ||=\/==\[phone 2]
   ||=/ \==/
   ||
   ||=\/==\[phone 3]
   ||=/ \==/
I could get a filter for the service entrance and bypass it just for the 
DSL; but that would limit my flexibility to relocate the DSL modem for 
my home network -- something I plan to do in the future, as it's an 
eyesore hanging off the wall in my library, at present.

Alternate config 1, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1 --> ===0\||
 line 2 --> ===0/  ||
 Splitter --> ||   ||===\[phone 1]
   0===< DSL MODEM >||===/
  ||
  ||===\[phone 2]
  ||===/
  ||
  ||===\[phone 3]
  ||===/
I could also get an adapter that splits line 1 and line 2 into separate 
cable runs, allowing individual filters for each cable and thus 
bypassing the one-signal-per filter problem. However, I already have 
enough junk hanging out of my wall jacks as it is; and doing this for 
all three of my two-line extensions would be a serious PITA.

Alternate config 2, two voice lines working:

service entrance
 line 1 --> ==0==||
 line 2 --> ==0===< DSL MODEM >==||
 ||===\[phone 1]
 ||===/
 ||
 ||===\[phone 2]
 ||===/
 ||
 ||===\[phone 3]
 ||===/
Has anyone else experienced similar issues with multi-line phones? Were 
you able to resolve the problem without resorting to a filter at the 
service entrance? Can anyone recommend a line filter that will pass 
through signals on multiple pairs?

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