Re: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread Jay Strauss
I use Outlook express and like it.  But that aside.

I think there is a setting that can put outlook in the background (sorta),
you get a little mail symbol in your system tray when mail arrives.  Maybe
it's something like that?

Jay
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From: "Richard Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)


I have a RH8.0 server running at home which pulls mail in from our remote
mail server and then distributes it for me and my wife between our various
accounts.  Now, in addition to my desktop computer which runs Linux, I
also have my WinXP laptop which runs Outlook 2000 (currently this computer
runs that because I cannot make my Palm Tungsten talk happily to my
desktop computer, and because I have not been able to make Debian run well
on that laptop -- still soliciting suggestions on both those issues, by
the way).

While at work, I check my personal e-mail by logging in to my server and
using SquirrelMail.  But recently I've discovered that even when I shut
down Outlook on my XP laptop, there are still Outlook processes running,
even if I kill them with Task Manager.  As a result, when I log in to SM,
messages are marked as read even when I haven't read them though SM
(because Outlook on my laptop has checked my mail -- even when I don't
want it to).

This is just one more reason why I hate MS in general and Outlook in
particular.  I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my Windows
laptop, but until then is anyone aware of a way to kill Outlook processes
on my Windows computer once and for all so that it actually shuts all the
way down when I tell it to?  Just assume that I have processes running on
my laptop which makes it inconvenient to shut it down all the way. ;-)


Sliante,
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invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry


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Re: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread Richard Crawford
ME said:

> Eliminate Outlook Express and only use SM! ;-)

Just MSO, not MSOE.  But thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into them.


> For posting a non-Linux question to a Linux tech list, you owe each list
> member 12 grams of dryer lint, 3 sniffs of immitation vanilla extract
> scent, and a color picture of George Boole, signed by George Boole, with
> some writing from him dedicating the picture to LUGOD.

Hmmm, the last might be a problem.  Last I counted, I only had 65 of them
and I think there are more than 65 members of the list.

Sliante,
Richard S. Crawford

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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howard Dean for America:  http://www.deanforamerica.com
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Re: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread Richard Crawford
MB said:

> At least ditch that Outlook virus.  Use any free mail client such as
> mozilla...

I've tried both Mozilla, Eudora, and Thunderbird.  I do, however, need a
client which will integrate e-mail with calendaring and which will sync
with my Palm Pilot.  If there is a free client for Windows that does that,
point me at it!  Evolution is my favorite client for many, many reasons,
but does not run natively on Windows, or even under Cygwin.

Sliante,
Richard S. Crawford

http://www.mossroot.com
AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howard Dean for America:  http://www.deanforamerica.com
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Re: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread ME
Richard Crawford said:
[chop]
> is anyone aware of a way to kill Outlook processes
> on my Windows computer once and for all so that it actually shuts all the
> way down when I tell it to?  Just assume that I have processes running on
> my laptop which makes it inconvenient to shut it down all the way. ;-)
[chop]

Eliminate Outlook Express and only use SM! ;-)

Seriously though, I do not use MSOE, but have used other tools like
MeetingMaker. Just a suggestion here, but can you locate something that
says "signoff" or "logout" within MSOE? Somme applications treat "quit"
different from "Signoff" or "Logout" or "Disconnect from Server"; they
leave processes running so that you do not have to re-authenticate the
next time you start the application or continue to be "helpful" and do
stuff for you even though you do not expect them to.

Next, I would probably look into the preferences for the mail server
connection. See if there are options for telling it to not stay connected
or  options tht can be turned off that suggest it might stay connected,
checking for more mail.

Next, I would look into any filtering rules you may have setup in MSOE
that filter your mail. See if any of these rules permit MSOE to remain
connected to deal with things like filtering, forwarding e-mail,
autoresponding, etc.

For posting a non-Linux question to a Linux tech list, you owe each list
member 12 grams of dryer lint, 3 sniffs of immitation vanilla extract
scent, and a color picture of George Boole, signed by George Boole, with
some writing from him dedicating the picture to LUGOD.

-ME


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Re: [vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread MB
At least ditch that Outlook virus.  Use any free mail client such as 
mozilla...
Mark

Richard Crawford wrote:

I have a RH8.0 server running at home which pulls mail in from our remote
mail server and then distributes it for me and my wife between our various
accounts.  Now, in addition to my desktop computer which runs Linux, I
also have my WinXP laptop which runs Outlook 2000 (currently this computer
runs that because I cannot make my Palm Tungsten talk happily to my
desktop computer, and because I have not been able to make Debian run well
on that laptop -- still soliciting suggestions on both those issues, by
the way).
While at work, I check my personal e-mail by logging in to my server and
using SquirrelMail.  But recently I've discovered that even when I shut
down Outlook on my XP laptop, there are still Outlook processes running,
even if I kill them with Task Manager.  As a result, when I log in to SM,
messages are marked as read even when I haven't read them though SM
(because Outlook on my laptop has checked my mail -- even when I don't
want it to).
This is just one more reason why I hate MS in general and Outlook in
particular.  I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my Windows
laptop, but until then is anyone aware of a way to kill Outlook processes
on my Windows computer once and for all so that it actually shuts all the
way down when I tell it to?  Just assume that I have processes running on
my laptop which makes it inconvenient to shut it down all the way. ;-)
Sliante,
Richard S. Crawford
http://www.mossroot.com
AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howard Dean for America:  http://www.deanforamerica.com
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invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry
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[vox-tech] Outlook Question (I know, but please bear with me...)

2003-09-03 Thread Richard Crawford
I have a RH8.0 server running at home which pulls mail in from our remote
mail server and then distributes it for me and my wife between our various
accounts.  Now, in addition to my desktop computer which runs Linux, I
also have my WinXP laptop which runs Outlook 2000 (currently this computer
runs that because I cannot make my Palm Tungsten talk happily to my
desktop computer, and because I have not been able to make Debian run well
on that laptop -- still soliciting suggestions on both those issues, by
the way).

While at work, I check my personal e-mail by logging in to my server and
using SquirrelMail.  But recently I've discovered that even when I shut
down Outlook on my XP laptop, there are still Outlook processes running,
even if I kill them with Task Manager.  As a result, when I log in to SM,
messages are marked as read even when I haven't read them though SM
(because Outlook on my laptop has checked my mail -- even when I don't
want it to).

This is just one more reason why I hate MS in general and Outlook in
particular.  I'd love to find a way to run Ximian Evolution on my Windows
laptop, but until then is anyone aware of a way to kill Outlook processes
on my Windows computer once and for all so that it actually shuts all the
way down when I tell it to?  Just assume that I have processes running on
my laptop which makes it inconvenient to shut it down all the way. ;-)


Sliante,
Richard S. Crawford

http://www.mossroot.com
AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howard Dean for America:  http://www.deanforamerica.com
"It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is
invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupéry


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