Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
Cool links thaks mike. I will be testing them out on my test system (actually same system different hard drive :-) BTW a quick question about setting up a mouce in debian. I have had the good luck with the newer installs of SuSE that it detects my mouse with no problem, but I use a USB mouse when using Debian I can't figure out what settings to use any tips? Rusty On Monday 25 February 2002 23:05, you wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:27:54PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of > > someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. > > From the comment on the maintainer's log it looks like 4.2 isn't going > to make woody... http://people.debian.org/~branden/ ... if you want to > monitor progress of Debian X that's a good page to check. > > Also if you want to run 4.1 on a potato system... check out this Very > Unoffical source of compiled for potato X servers... > http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ > > Thought this would be of interest, > Mike > > From the READ.THIS on Botha's site... > # Note that these are UNOFFICIAL debs. This means that you MUST NOT FILE > BUGS # against them, and that you should NOT BUG ANYBODY about them. If > you do, I # will point at you and laugh. > > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
RE: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
Geez, I'm glad I wasn't at work when I pulled that site up. -sp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Simons Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:27:54PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of > someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. From the comment on the maintainer's log it looks like 4.2 isn't going to make woody... http://people.debian.org/~branden/ ... if you want to monitor progress of Debian X that's a good page to check. Also if you want to run 4.1 on a potato system... check out this Very Unoffical source of compiled for potato X servers... http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ Thought this would be of interest, Mike >From the READ.THIS on Botha's site... # Note that these are UNOFFICIAL debs. This means that you MUST NOT FILE BUGS # against them, and that you should NOT BUG ANYBODY about them. If you do, I # will point at you and laugh. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:27:54PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of > someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. From the comment on the maintainer's log it looks like 4.2 isn't going to make woody... http://people.debian.org/~branden/ ... if you want to monitor progress of Debian X that's a good page to check. Also if you want to run 4.1 on a potato system... check out this Very Unoffical source of compiled for potato X servers... http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ Thought this would be of interest, Mike >From the READ.THIS on Botha's site... # Note that these are UNOFFICIAL debs. This means that you MUST NOT FILE BUGS # against them, and that you should NOT BUG ANYBODY about them. If you do, I # will point at you and laugh. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
Another possibiliity comes to mind, that of the Linux Frame Buffer. If the video chipset is VESA 2.0 complient, that will work. I used it to set up a Rage 128 Pro based card to work with X 4.1.0. Also, RH 7.2 has a number of drivers from X 4.2.0 hacked for the X 4.1.? that it comes with. If you're interested in the Frame Buffer instructuions, the HOWTO URL is: www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html I can also pass along the specific procedures I used at work. Marc __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
begin Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > also, if anyone knows where redhat, suse, mandrake, etc keep a copy of X > 4.2.* rpm's (if they exist), please save me from hunting for them all by > emailing urls directly to me (rather than the list). ^^^ folks, not to crimp anyone's style, but it's time to check your cc: field. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > also, if anyone knows where redhat, suse, mandrake, etc keep a copy of X > 4.2.* rpm's (if they exist), please save me from hunting for them all by > emailing urls directly to me (rather than the list). i keep my own > installfest disk that i bring. i'll burn them and their dependencies on > my disk. RedHat and Mandrake have "Update" subdirectories on each respective version (ie - 6.0) directories on their FTP mirrors. -Mark -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/mark/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 15:27, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of > someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. > ... Look up the CheckInstall project on freshmeat. I expect you can install X manually and use InstallWatch to build the corresponding .deb. If you do this, let me know how it went. :-) -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/ Rusty On Wednesday 20 February 2002 15:27, you wrote: > begin nbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > > > if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like > > > to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. > > > > > > :) > > > > If possible, it might be useful just to burn a CDROM every couple of > > months which contains Debian packages and RPMs (possibly numerous ones... > > one for SuSE, one for RedHat, one for Mandrake, etc.) of the latest XF86 > > 4.x, and possible even have a copy of the absolute latest source > > tarball... > > > > Just a suggestion :) > > unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of > someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. > > also, if anyone knows where redhat, suse, mandrake, etc keep a copy of X > 4.2.* rpm's (if they exist), please save me from hunting for them all by > emailing urls directly to me (rather than the list). i keep my own > installfest disk that i bring. i'll burn them and their dependencies on > my disk. > > pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
SuSE 7.3 does and I have it on CD along with the 2.4.16 kernal. I don't have it for any other distro though. Rusty On Wednesday 20 February 2002 15:14, you wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like > > to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. > > > > :) > > If possible, it might be useful just to burn a CDROM every couple of months > which contains Debian packages and RPMs (possibly numerous ones... one > for SuSE, one for RedHat, one for Mandrake, etc.) of the latest XF86 4.x, > and possible even have a copy of the absolute latest source tarball... > > Just a suggestion :) > > -bill! > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
begin nbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like > > to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. > > :) > > If possible, it might be useful just to burn a CDROM every couple of months > which contains Debian packages and RPMs (possibly numerous ones... one > for SuSE, one for RedHat, one for Mandrake, etc.) of the latest XF86 4.x, > and possible even have a copy of the absolute latest source tarball... > > Just a suggestion :) unfortunately, afaics, debian sid still uses 4.1.0. if anyone knows of someone packaging a more recent X for debian, i'd like to know about it. also, if anyone knows where redhat, suse, mandrake, etc keep a copy of X 4.2.* rpm's (if they exist), please save me from hunting for them all by emailing urls directly to me (rather than the list). i keep my own installfest disk that i bring. i'll burn them and their dependencies on my disk. pete -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like > to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. > :) If possible, it might be useful just to burn a CDROM every couple of months which contains Debian packages and RPMs (possibly numerous ones... one for SuSE, one for RedHat, one for Mandrake, etc.) of the latest XF86 4.x, and possible even have a copy of the absolute latest source tarball... Just a suggestion :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
the past 2 installfests have been plagued by people who haven't been able to get X working "just right" or at all. *particularly* with newish laptops. a common problem is when X, try as you might play with xvidtune or mode timings, can't seem to cover the entire laptop screen. we've seen this a bunch of times. if you're working on a system, particularly a laptop, that looks new, ask the person you're helping when the laptop was manufactured (they prolly won't know) or when they bought the laptop. then compare it with the build date of xfree86. you can get that information using X -probeonly 2> X.log -or- by looking at a copy of the X log somewhere in /var/log. if the computer is newer than the build of X (particularly for a laptop), there is a good chance that the video chipset is not officially supported by X. if their X works, it'll be mostly by accident. their chipset is "close enough" to get it "kind of" working. from here, you need to upgrade X 4.2* if you're using X 4.1.*. in every case we tried, upgrading X almost always worked (on laptops). alot of work has been done on: 1. ati cards 2. laptop video chipsets between 4.1.* and 4.2.*. i happen to know that the recent mandrake beta carries 4.2. if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. :) thanks, pete -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
