[vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Thomas Johnston
I have a windows 7 install disk that I would like to make into a
bootable USB key so that I can install the OS on a computer without an
optical drive. I have tried a number of different tutorials/methods on
my kubuntu 10.04 laptop (64 bit), but so far nothing has worked.

The first thing I thought of was to try kubuntu's startup disk
creator, but I would get an error like:
Could not move syslinux files in /media/8F0E-C29F: [Errno 2] No such
file or directory. Maybe /media/U3 System is not an Ubuntu image?

I then tried ripping the install disk as an iso file and then using
UNetbootin to make a bootable USB. I used K3B with copy medium to
create an iso image of the install DVD; I assume that there is nothing
fancy about this operation. I saw no error messages during the
process. However UNetbootin takes about 1 sec to go through the
process of copying everything to the USB and saying done (no errors
are generated). Not surprisingly, the USB key is not recognized as a
bootable medium.

I have even tried using Gparted to format the USB as fat32 with a boot
flag, then mounting the iso file and using dd to copy all of the
contents to the USB key. There were no errors in copying, but it was
never recognized as bootable (yes, the BIOS is set to first boot to
the USB). I used kubuntu's startup disk creator to put kubuntu 10.10
on this same USB key and it worked correctly, so I don't think it is
the USB key.

My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?

Thomas
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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Brian Lavender
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:29:13AM -0800, Thomas Johnston wrote:
[snip]
 
 My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
 key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?

Let me just share my own experience and see if it provides assistance.

I have used Fedora's Live usb creator.
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

I also have used ubuntu's live usb creator 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-ubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/

I have used the Knoppix Hacks by Kyle Rankin book to create a live usb
as well.

The Ubuntu creator won't create a live image from the Fedora image. 


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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Richard S. Crawford
I successfully used gtk-usb-creator to create a bootable USB key.


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Brian Lavender br...@brie.com wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:29:13AM -0800, Thomas Johnston wrote:
 [snip]
 
  My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
  key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?

 Let me just share my own experience and see if it provides assistance.

 I have used Fedora's Live usb creator.
 https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

 I also have used ubuntu's live usb creator
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-ubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/

 I have used the Knoppix Hacks by Kyle Rankin book to create a live usb
 as well.

 The Ubuntu creator won't create a live image from the Fedora image.


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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Brian Lavender
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:14:33AM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:29:13AM -0800, Thomas Johnston wrote:
 [snip]
  
  My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
  key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?
 
 Let me just share my own experience and see if it provides assistance.

Sorry, I just automatically saw bootable USB. I missed that you wanted it to
be a Windows bootable.

I found this. Did you try this? It's not free software in the sense of 
freedom.

It uses components of free software components and works with XP and
2003 server. I don't know about Windows 7 though.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

I found it as a result of this page.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html

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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Orson Jones
On 11/16/2010 02:29 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
 I have a windows 7 install disk that I would like to make into a
 bootable USB key so that I can install the OS on a computer without an
 optical drive. I have tried a number of different tutorials/methods on
 my kubuntu 10.04 laptop (64 bit), but so far nothing has worked.
snip
 My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
 key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?

No, but I have done this: (requires a windows computer to create the usb)
http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/08/28/98/

Orson
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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Tony Cratz
On 11/16/2010 01:29 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
 I have a windows 7 install disk that I would like to make into a
 bootable USB key so that I can install the OS on a computer without an
 optical drive. I have tried a number of different tutorials/methods on
 my kubuntu 10.04 laptop (64 bit), but so far nothing has worked.

If you should happen to download Win-7 from Pirate Bay it comes
with a ISO-USB tool.

Note: I have not tried this tool so I don't know how well it
works. Nor and I'm encouraging you to break the law by
downloading a pirated version of Win-7 instead of paying the
fee to Microsoft.

Just that if you were to download the torrent you would get
a tool which claims to do what you want.

IF you should decide to download the file, make sure that the
user has a pirate skull and cross-bones. Otherwise don't trust
the torrent. For example sake only, these would be a good ones
to download:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5952557/Windows_7_Ultimate_%2864_Bit%29_x64_%28November_2010%29

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5952553/Windows_7_Ultimate_%2832_Bit%29_x86_%28November_2010%29

But again I'm not suggesting you break the copyright and
download these torrents which contains ISO which will validate
as genuine via Microsoft when you use the 'Loader' released
by Daz. That would be breaking the law.

Just download the folder in the torrent:
Windows 7 ISO To USB - Flash Tool


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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Thomas Johnston
I have tried several of the procedures recommended in the replies and
I have encountered snags. I have kubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) and run XP (32
bit) under VirtualBox. I  tried the method mentioned by Harold (using
the diskpart under DOS) but the utility would not see my USB drive.
I have no trouble accessing the USB under VB with windows explorer but
diskpart would only see the virtual harddrive that XP is installed on.
Strange ...

I then tried using microsoft's own USB creator
(Windows7-USB-DVD-tool). It took awhile to get the necessary packages
installed before I could run the MS tool, but once I did I hit another
hurdle. The MS tool kept saying that I did not have a valid iso.
WTF?!?! I found this post though:
http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/11/01/use-the-windows-7-usbdvd-download-tool-with-custom-isos/

The author mentions: It appears there are two (possibly more)
“navigation buoys” within UDF-formatted ISOs that point to important
chunks of the image called Anchor Volume Descriptor Pointers (AVDPs).
The first AVDP is somewhere near the top of the image. The last AVDP
is located in what appears to be the last logical block of the image.
(My guess is this is to support bi-directional reading.) So assuming
each logical block of the image is 2048 bytes large, one could also
assume the last logical block is –2048 from the end of the file,
right? Well, that’s what the tool assumes. It checks for the last AVDP
at the start of the last logical block, doesn’t find it, and bombs
out.

In the post you can download his tool to fix the UDF offset issue,
very easy to use. Once I did the MS tool had no trouble mounting the
ISO and copying the files to the USB. HOWEVER, it completed the copy
operation (after about 1 hour) and gave me an error about not being to
run the bootsect.exe. My copy of XP is 32 bit and the OS I am
attempting to put on the USB is 64 bit! I found a 32 bit bootsect file
online and used the the info in Orson's post to make the USB bootable
and started copying the files.

SO, hopefully when the files are done copying the stupid USB will
actually work.  I will let you know how it goes.

thanks for all the replies!

thomas





On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Orson Jones orson.lu...@afriskito.net wrote:
 On 11/16/2010 02:29 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
 I have a windows 7 install disk that I would like to make into a
 bootable USB key so that I can install the OS on a computer without an
 optical drive. I have tried a number of different tutorials/methods on
 my kubuntu 10.04 laptop (64 bit), but so far nothing has worked.
 snip
 My question is, has anyone successfully made a bootable windows USB
 key using Linux? If so, how did you do it?

 No, but I have done this: (requires a windows computer to create the usb)
 http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/08/28/98/

 Orson
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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 02:38:40PM -0800, Tony Cratz wrote:
   IF you should decide to download the file, make sure that the
   user has a pirate skull and cross-bones. Otherwise don't trust
   the torrent. For example sake only, these would be a good ones
   to download:
snip

FYI, I'm going to zap those torrent URLs from our list archives. :^/

-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Tony Cratz
On 11/16/2010 03:24 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 FYI, I'm going to zap those torrent URLs from our list archives. :^/


Which is fine. They may not be valid in the future anyway.


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Re: [vox-tech] creating a bootable USB key

2010-11-16 Thread Thomas Johnston
OK, I think I finally figured out something that would work. The first
key was finding the post:
http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/11/01/use-the-windows-7-usbdvd-download-tool-with-custom-isos/

and using his tool to modify the ISO of the windows install DVD. The
second thing was to use the multibootiso utility from:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/

to make the USB bootable and copy the iso files to the USB. That took
way too much effort.  If anyone needs to do the same but this
process doesn't work for them, I have two suggestions: (1) go out and
by an external optical you will save yourself a whole lot of time and
effort, and (2) you might try the procedure described here:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/itprovistadeployment/thread/882d06e8-1ff5-4aff-bc5b-3418707015c5

Thanks for all your replies!

Thomas


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tony Cratz cr...@hematite.com wrote:
 On 11/16/2010 03:24 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
 FYI, I'm going to zap those torrent URLs from our list archives. :^/


        Which is fine. They may not be valid in the future anyway.


                                                                Tony
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