Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 12:14:41AM -0700, Ryan wrote: > On Sunday 25 June 2006 11:15 pm, Micah J. Cowan micah-at-cowan.name |lugod| > wrote: > > ...I suspect that trying to do so would be impractical on Unix, > > though: Unix users have far too much control over their environment to > > be deterred from using something based on some sort of time-tracking > > scheme... :-) > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/dateshift/ > > I use it in my wrapper shell script for cdrecord-ProDVD to keep it for > expiring every 6 months (it's free as in beer, but you still have to update > the key every 6 months, and it annoys me greatly) Thanks for proving me right, and for the link to a very interesting piece of software. What is cdrecord-ProDVD? If it's just a CLI DVD-recorder, have you tried growisofs from dvd+rw-tools? It is insanely easy to use, and works extremely well. However, I highly recommend you use the latest version (compile from source if necessary), especially if you have a Pioneer drive (as I do). Other drives are extremely likely to work with whatever your current distro version has. Free as in speech... -- Micah J. Cowan Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer... http://micah.cowan.name/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
On Sunday 25 June 2006 11:15 pm, Micah J. Cowan micah-at-cowan.name |lugod| wrote: > ...I suspect that trying to do so would be impractical on Unix, > though: Unix users have far too much control over their environment to > be deterred from using something based on some sort of time-tracking > scheme... :-) http://freshmeat.net/projects/dateshift/ I use it in my wrapper shell script for cdrecord-ProDVD to keep it for expiring every 6 months (it's free as in beer, but you still have to update the key every 6 months, and it annoys me greatly) -- Ryan Castellucci - http://ryanc.org/ GPG Key: http://ryanc.org/files/publickey.asc ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 09:55:21PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 05:05:19PM -0700, Micah J. Cowan wrote: > > It's worth pointing out, though, that the "rar" utility is also > > non-free-as-in-beer: it's shareware. > > Oh, interesting. > > Aside from the apt description's comment on the shareware/registration issue, > does 'rar' or the rar package do anything to enforce the registration > requirement, or at least remind users after 40 days? I have no idea. ...I suspect that trying to do so would be impractical on Unix, though: Unix users have far too much control over their environment to be deterred from using something based on some sort of time-tracking scheme... :-) -- Micah J. Cowan Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer... http://micah.cowan.name/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 05:05:19PM -0700, Micah J. Cowan wrote: > It's worth pointing out, though, that the "rar" utility is also > non-free-as-in-beer: it's shareware. Oh, interesting. Aside from the apt description's comment on the shareware/registration issue, does 'rar' or the rar package do anything to enforce the registration requirement, or at least remind users after 40 days? -bill! (who has only installed 'unrar', and had loads of trouble with it :^( I'll stick to zip, tar.gz and tar.bz2, thank you. ;) ) ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
It's worth pointing out, though, that the "rar" utility is also non-free-as-in-beer: it's shareware. $ apt-cache show rar Description: Archiver for .rar files This is the RAR archiver from Eugene Roshal. It supports multiple volume archives and damage protection. It can also create SFX-archives. There are versions which run on DOS, Windows (3.1x,95,NT), FreeBSD, BSDI. . This program is shareware and you must register it after 40 days of use. Bugs: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Origin: Ubuntu -Micah On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 06:06:09PM -0400, Hai Yi wrote: > thank you, Norm and Bill. > Norm, I tried out the site you refered to and have it downloaded and > working; Bill, thanks for the clarification in regard of the > "non-free" stuff, maybe I'll then try some of them : ) > > Hai > > > On 6/25/06, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:01:46AM -0400, Hai Yi wrote: > > > > > > I downloaded a rar zip file and check the debian packages and found > > > the utilities like rar/unrar are non-free. > > > > > > > > > > > How to proceed if I do want to purchase a non-free package? > > ^^^ > > > > In Debian, "non-free" specifically refers to the license, not the monetary > > cost. From The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ, Chapter 5: "The Debian FTP archives" > > [ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html ]: > > > > stable/non-free/: This directory contains packages distribution of > > which is restricted in a way that requires that distributors take > > careful account of the specified copyright requirements. > > > > For example, some packages have licenses which prohibit commercial > > distribution. Others can be redistributed but are in fact shareware > > and not freeware. The licenses of each of these packages must be > > studied, and possibly negotiated, before the packages are included in > > any redistribution (e.g., in a CD-ROM). > > > > > > So when you go to download a package from the "non-free" Debian > > repositories, > > you're not being charged for it. :) > > > > Just thought I'd clear that up, since it looked like there was some > > confusion. ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
thank you, Norm and Bill. Norm, I tried out the site you refered to and have it downloaded and working; Bill, thanks for the clarification in regard of the "non-free" stuff, maybe I'll then try some of them : ) Hai On 6/25/06, Bill Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:01:46AM -0400, Hai Yi wrote: > > I downloaded a rar zip file and check the debian packages and found > the utilities like rar/unrar are non-free. > > > How to proceed if I do want to purchase a non-free package? ^^^ In Debian, "non-free" specifically refers to the license, not the monetary cost. From The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ, Chapter 5: "The Debian FTP archives" [ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html ]: stable/non-free/: This directory contains packages distribution of which is restricted in a way that requires that distributors take careful account of the specified copyright requirements. For example, some packages have licenses which prohibit commercial distribution. Others can be redistributed but are in fact shareware and not freeware. The licenses of each of these packages must be studied, and possibly negotiated, before the packages are included in any redistribution (e.g., in a CD-ROM). So when you go to download a package from the "non-free" Debian repositories, you're not being charged for it. :) Just thought I'd clear that up, since it looked like there was some confusion. -- -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 10:01:46AM -0400, Hai Yi wrote: > > I downloaded a rar zip file and check the debian packages and found > the utilities like rar/unrar are non-free. > > > How to proceed if I do want to purchase a non-free package? ^^^ In Debian, "non-free" specifically refers to the license, not the monetary cost. From The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ, Chapter 5: "The Debian FTP archives" [ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.en.html ]: stable/non-free/: This directory contains packages distribution of which is restricted in a way that requires that distributors take careful account of the specified copyright requirements. For example, some packages have licenses which prohibit commercial distribution. Others can be redistributed but are in fact shareware and not freeware. The licenses of each of these packages must be studied, and possibly negotiated, before the packages are included in any redistribution (e.g., in a CD-ROM). So when you go to download a package from the "non-free" Debian repositories, you're not being charged for it. :) Just thought I'd clear that up, since it looked like there was some confusion. -- -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] rar unrar and non-free package
hello, there: I downloaded a rar zip file and check the debian packages and found the utilities like rar/unrar are non-free. I then turned to ark and received an warning that the file is of type application/x-rar-compressed, which ark cannot handle. Therefore the question, is there any *free* tar tools? How to proceed if I do want to purchase a non-free package? Thanks, Hai ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
